To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

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To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

@hamstersarse
Do you all post memes on facebook about being kind?

I'm not on Facebook and I don't care for memes. You've started insulting posters on this thread, I assume it's because you feel you're losing the argument so you're resorting to name calling.

Let's see - Corbyn has opposed racism all his life, protested against apartheid in South Africa, etc.

No, Corbyn has supported racism all his life. He has supported armed groups (most people call them terrorists) who kill innocent people on the basis of their religion. Hamas, Hezbollah, the IRA, take your pick.

He invited Raed Salah and Patrick Magee to the House of Commons. Salah was jailed for repeating the blood libel against Jews and Magee was jailed for murdering 5 people in the Brighton bomb. Corbyn invited Magee knowing he would be seen by Conservatives who had lost colleagues or been injured in the bomb.

And no, he wasn't just talking to them or promoting peace. He was offering support. When Salah was deported from the UK Corbyn said it was because of the "Zionist lobby". Anyone else would say he was a nasty piece of work who was stirring up anti-Semitism, but not Jezza.

@MrsDoylesTea

You were comparing Momentums to 'normal' people ergo they're not normal, so yeah that's name calling.

The Sun is a rag. Yeah I unashamedly stand by that.

@suckingdieselfella

Spot on - I don't understand how he's got this 'genial grandfather' reputation. Watch the interview with Krishnan Guru-Murthy and see the mask slip. Plus the seething disdain in last night's interview.

If he can't cope with Andrew Neil how on earth would he represent us on the world stage!

Back to the thread's title.

404 messages and from all the posters who said Andrew Neil was unfair, or wouldn't let Jeremy Corbyn answer the question etc etc, not one can give any examples of how.

Not one.

@ahnowted

They are in a political bubble - hence not your average 'normal person'. Activists.

And on the Sun - great, have your opinion. Their circulation figures (and much larger than the Guardian) would say many don't share it

Gosh there is some desperation on this thread, real proper desperation that Corbyn isn't seen for what he clearly is.

And the more the public is appalled, the more they drop in the polls, the more the desperation grows.

@Devereux1 I just did.

Corbyn has been close to armed groups for decades. Like the wreath-laying for one of the Munich Olympics terrorists, it seems he has always been "present but not involved".

Do people really believe that when he honours these individuals (he also observed a minute's silence for dead IRA "soldiers" in front of many witnesses) he is engaging in dialogue, or promoting peace? How deluded would you have to be to believe that?

@SuckingDieselFella completely right.
Not to mention he wants to build trident but says there are no circumstances he would use it, what a waste of money
That he would be neutral on brexit, how could a PM just stay neutral on a deal he would broker with the EU. What is he going to say to voters. Here is my deal but I have no idea if you vote for it or vote remain!

Brexit is another way in which he is deluding young voters. Every time he has spoken on record about the EU, he has opposed it. And that's going back decades. It's a trading bloc and he dislikes trade because it's capitalist. Plus, continued EU membership would screw his plans for nationalisation. They wouldn't allow it.

It’s only on Mumsnet that I hear anyone saying anything bad about JC. Everyone I know likes him and will be voting labour. Certainly all the young people ie under 25s that I work with plus my own kids, nephew and niece think he’s great. Desperately want labour to get in. It gives me hope.

JPharm I just did.

Could you repeat it please? I can't see it. I also can't see what you think Andrew Neil should have done, for example on the £60bn question. Thanks.

And the more the public is appalled, the more they drop in the polls, the more the desperation grows

I don't see desperation from the left any more than from the right. These are desperate times and even I as a life long Labour voter would rather Corbyn wasn't leader. But I'd take him as PM over Johnson any day.

And I don't see any evidence that the public are "appalled" by Corbyn. The polls? We'll see - they don't worry me.

Let's see - Corbyn has opposed racism all his life, protested against apartheid in South Africa, etc.

Have you googled what he has supported through his career, it's amazing and anyone with half a brain can see the propaganda of racism for what it is.

Apparently the BBC haven't been able to agree a date with Johnson to be interviewed by Andrew Neil.

For fuck's sake.

I think Corbyn is a twat and his cronies are fucking awful. That said, Neil is also a twat and how much time did he waste on the "would you kill a terrorist" question? Quite frankly in a volatile war situation I don't want the leader of my country to be pinned down to any concrete answer that may come back to haunt him when what I want from a leader in such a situation is agility and cunning. Not that Corbyn has either, you understand, but that's what's required. Plus there was a lot of boring dick swinging about the repeated exhortation to kill kill and kill again, from the veteran of 0 battlefields Neil.

It’s one page back. I’ve no objection to the 60bn question, he was right to ask him to account for it. He was not right to keep pressing him on certain cases regarding antisemitism that are still under legal investigation, he knows full well JC cannot comment.

He also shouldn’t be saying he associated with vile anti semites without giving names when asked.

I do find it funny that Tories seem to want every penny of labour money accounted for but asked no questions when the DUP got a massive cash boost nor when they’ve been spunking money left right and centre on no deal Brexit plans.

@Battytwatty Of course young people love him. He is offering them free university tuition. Do any of these young people know about simple maths? There is no money for free tuition.

Do they know he had been anti EU all his political life?

Do they know that sharing platforms with armed and masked men isn't cool and edgy? It represents support for individuals who will kill innocent people to get what they want. That means they could kill someone in the young person's family, or the young person themselves.

Do they know that Magic Grandpa isn't the brains of the operation? Haven't they heard of Len McCluskey or Seamus Milne? Let them vote for Jezza. When the far left overthrow him and McDonnell is in charge, we'll see how they like them apples.

@Devereux1 nobody would press the button. Not one person. Not even Putin. I know they all have a to say otherwise, but none of them would. It's a fucking farce. If you did ever get someone who would, we'd all be fucked. I actually quite admire him for getting out of that game because it's complete fucking nonsense.

JPharm

It’s one page back.
Do you mean your entire basis of thinking the interview was unfair is because you think Andrew Neil focuses too much on himself? Is that it?

I’ve no objection to the 60bn question, he was right to ask him to account for it.
Yes, he was. But do you think Andrew Neil was wrong in asking Jeremy Corbyn it repeatedly and interrupting him when he failed to answer?

Getting away from your personal enjoyment of the interview which was marred because you felt Andrew Neil was too focused on himself, can you list the questions which Jeremy Corbyn actually answered?

He was not right to keep pressing him on certain cases regarding antisemitism that are still under legal investigation, he knows full well JC cannot comment.

Such as? Which question would have been impossible for JC to answer because of legal investigations?

Yes, I agree this nuclear Armageddon question is absurd. We’d all be dead and there would be nobody to even think about activating Trident.

"I do find it funny that Tories seem to want every penny of labour money accounted for but asked no questions when the DUP got a massive cash boost nor when they’ve been spunking money left right and centre on no deal Brexit plans."

The DUP didn't get any cash. If you think otherwise, please post your evidence. The money was promised for Northern Ireland's schools, hospitals and roads (and less than half of it has been paid out.) I take it you oppose public spending?

And it isn't the Tories who have been "spunking" money on no deal Brexit plans. The plans are being drawn up by the Civil Service, which is a government agency and not a political party. Would you prefer the state not to spend any money on contingency plans? If so, can you explain why. Be specific, please. Don't just say that you don't want Brexit to happen.

@BerwickLad @Devereux1 nobody would press the button. Not one person. Not even Putin.

Actually, I think Putin would. Other screw-loose individuals would too. But generally, I agree with you.

I know they all have a to say otherwise, but none of them would. It's a fucking farce.

I agree.

If you did ever get someone who would, we'd all be fucked.

Again, I agree.

I actually quite admire him for getting out of that game because it's complete fucking nonsense.

No, I can't agree. Because he hasn't got out of the game. If he was getting out of the game, he wouldn't vow to spend billions of taxpayer's money renewing Trident.

He is offering them free university tuition.

Free university tuition comes at a price. Where in the UK has the lowest level of access to children from deprived backgrounds in university? Could it be Scotland - where tuition is free?