Saving seats in train

[managedmis]

Every morning a woman on my train saves her mate a seat. Every morning the train is rammed and loads of people ask her to move her bag but she refuses and saves she saving it for her pal, who eventually shows up. People end up standing, the seat free, then pal arrives. I've seen a couple of people ignore her, move the bag and plump down in the seat, the entire train almost cheered.

What's the protocol here?

Yep she can't just save a seat.

BTW:

Occidental is the term for the West. European is the countries that are part of Europe.

Move the bag she can always give her friend her seat if needs be ... often not worth the aggravation though as you don’t know if it will turn nasty or not x if there’s an empty seat away from her sit in it the mere fact she thinks it’s acceptable to behave like that suggests you won’t come out of any confrontation without ruining your day leave it to the train inspector

She'd be asked once to move it, then I'm sitting my fat arse down on it.

@Madein1995

I don't understand how you can write your posts and not see the impact you could have on people.

I'm sorry that you seem to state that you're 5'3" and therefore can't use an overhead locker. My wife is 5'2" and never wears heels; she can use them, or can ask someone? Perhaps she has long arms. Who knows.

I'm sorry that you feel you have to squeeze against the window when someone else sits down, but again you're making your problem, someone else's problem.

And that someone else paid for a ticket, and they have a right to sit wherever they choose to. Bags do not have tickets assigned to them, they are placed in storage.

HTH, and hope you realise YABU.

I would move the bag. The only way I feel this would be okay would if the friend has some kind of medical condition which means she needs to sit. But even so, I would still like to sit down until she got there.

I was on a packed train the other day and a small suitcase (the sort that fits in an aeroplane cabin) had a seat all to itself. A bit of concern from surrounding passengers when someone quite reasonably asked to sit there and no-one knew who it belonged to. Eventually someone sitting much further down the carriage pipes up “oh that’s my suitcase. It’s got glass in it so it needs to have a seat”. Lots of eye rolling and “WTF” faces from surrounding passengers and “but this train is packed and that’s a free seat so please move your case”. “It isn’t a free seat because my case needs to go there. But but but”. Big burly bloke then decides he’s had enough and reaches over, picks up the case and hands it to her and then gestures to an older person to take the seat. Suitcase woman starts whingeing and wittering that the glass in the case will break. Big burly bloke suggests that the case sits on suitcase woman’s seat and suitcase woman stands. Funnily enough she didn’t think much of that suggestion and sat with the case in the aisle, glaring angrily at everyone, for the rest of the journey. CF of the highest order!

I think I am a little bit in love with Big Burly Bloke

I find out odd that some people are instantly rude to others.

I get on the train at the beginning of the route, so it's almost empty. It doesn't start to fill up until about 25 minutes in. By that stage I'm starting vacantly out of the window and barely notice what's going on. My shoulder bag is often talking up a bit of the next seat. I'm mortified when someone has to ask me to move it because I haven't noticed they need the seat. If they any straight into "has your bag got a ticket?" it really would not be deserved.
Fortunately most people recognise that I'm just dreaming, and ask politely.

Oh, please, you know the train's going to get full later, sara, so put your bag in your lap. No one needs to ask you politely to move your bag out of a seat on a crowded standing room only train, you're the one being rude. Plenty will just pick it up and sit down.

TheSerenDipitY you RRALLY don't get it do you. Making Asians sound exotic is offensive because it was in circulation at a time when exoticising stereotypes were prevalent. I'm not freaking exotic ffs. Im a freaking person not a side show.

@Madein1995 I’m not the twat. You are because even if the train isn’t full you DO NOT have the right to spread your shite all over the place. Yes the seat your bag is on will be the first one I ask for

Oh and it’s also not my problem that you are short, fat and wear a big coat. I’m tall and fat with a big coat soit’ll be really cosy :) we might even be besties by the end of the journey.

The kings cross to Lincoln train is only once a day so it can be very very busy on a Friday. and the conductor is been known to charge ppl a extra ticket for any bags on seats.

When I lived in London I’d naturally put my bag next to me, but I know that it makes it a target for people to sit on, so when people got on, I’d put it on my lap and then if all clear it’d go back, some seat dwelling bags aren’t placed by arseholes, just out of convenience

I’d far rather my bag on my lap than someone sitting next to me when there was an alternative

I am with @Madein1995. If a carriage is less than half full with lots of empty double seats available then of course it is fine to put your bag on a seat next to you. Most people do. I would think someone was a proper arse if they sat next to me with over half an empty train to sit on. A bit like the woman who sat next to me in a three quarter empty cinema (my bag was NOT on the seat next to me) because herding instinct innit .

However if the train is over half full with no double seats available then my bag is on my knee.

I am also a considerate person who regularly gives up a seat for older/disabled/pregnant people, who lifts buggies off trains with people (old pacer trains with high steps) and who on more than one occasion has carried suitcases for people to the airport express which goes from Siberia as the person was struggling or in one case distressed about missing it as they had a funeral to go to. It's about behaving in a common sense considerate non arsey way

Move the bag. If she says anything then comment that if her friend is disabled or pregnant then she can ask someone for a seat when she gets on.

@BIWI then you say Asian, not Oriental

@Softskin88 as an Englishwoman I can assure you that Oriental is in fact offensive in the UK.

I'm struggling to see how @Madein1995 is being a twat. She's not depriving anyone of a seat and has said that she moves her bag if it gets busy. You also can't really assume that placing a bag on the neighbouring seat forces people with mobility problems to spend longer looking for a spare seat - depending on where madein is sitting the remaining spare seats might actually be closer to the door. So what's the problem?

My Dh gets on packed city train each day. Once a bloke with expensive bike barged his way on train, gauging a few shins with said bike, and left it to sit further down carriage. The huge bloke next to dh picked up bike and put it out at next station. When he got off he tapped Bargy bloke on shoulder and told him what station his bike had got off at 😂

Sorry dingit, I think that's disproportionately nasty, spiteful behaviour.

Most of the other commuters didn't, I think bikes are banned at peak times anyway

@dingit Deplorable behaviour by the "huge bloke" and all those who stood by and said nothing to the bike owner, including your DH. Quite strange that all these people with gauged shins did not inform the train manager or the police of their injuries. Did any of them need hospital treatment?

Hmm today we have had Big Burley Bloke and Bargy Bloke... I definitely prefer Big Burley Bloke.

Putting someone's property off the train? What a wanker.