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To invite Conservative voters to gather here

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Goddessofgrowth · 25/11/2019 08:38

It’s ‘best of a bad bunch’ in my case but there are three threads petrified of BJ/Tories so wondered if any MN Tories would like to gather here!

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PlacidPenelope · 26/11/2019 15:32

If just one Muslim finds the letterbox comparison offensive, that’s one too many and what all these liberal DHs think is irrelevant

So, if just one Jew finds the rhetoric and activities within the Labour Party anti-semitic then it's one too many and what all these defenders of JC, Momentum and the Labour Party think is irrelevant. That's how it works, right?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 26/11/2019 15:37

Also
Feel free to AS my posts. My DH is North African - so Muslim and an immigrant Shock
Your insinuation cheapens your contribution

Jillyhilly · 26/11/2019 15:38

Oh I’m sure that because Jeremy’s a very nice old gentleman that someone once met that’s completely different Penelope.

EntropyRising · 26/11/2019 15:41

I love the idea of a 'could one person find this offensive' rule applied to journalism, or perhaps all writing in general.

The future looks bright.

Alsohuman · 26/11/2019 15:46

So, if just one Jew finds the rhetoric and activities within the Labour Party anti-semitic then it's one too many and what all these defenders of JC, Momentum and the Labour Party think is irrelevant. That's how it works, right?

Spot on.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 26/11/2019 15:47

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PlacidPenelope · 26/11/2019 15:54

Glad you agree Also, pity the many Labour supporters on here don't share your view and tie themselves up in knots trying to dismiss anyone who dares to refer to or criticise the anti-semitism within the Labour Party, most notably any Jew who raises those concerns.

Xenia · 26/11/2019 15:55

Lots of intereting issues on the thread . If one person finds something offensive that is not in English law any grounds not to make that comment. Many many fundamentalist Christians and Muslims find gay men deeply deeply offensive and hope they will burn in hell but they have no right to stop gay men holding hands in public.

What we need (and I think Labour and the Tories are both committed to this) is a UK where there is a right to offend and if people get upset we need to help them learn to grow a thicker skin.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/11/2019 17:57

I don't know how anyone can defend Johnson, he has form for making appalling comments that would have got him sacked from most jobs.

Johnson's 'piccaninnies' apology

www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/jan/23/london.race

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-refuses-apologise-bumboys-20940169

EntropyRising · 26/11/2019 18:45

I don't know how anyone can defend Johnson

I guess it's just different people thinking differently than you .

tabulahrasa · 26/11/2019 19:10

The thing is, he apologise by saying things were taken out of context or similar.

Never, yes actually I can see now that it’s been explained to me why it’s problematic .... which means that he has people telling him why how he’s said things are an issue and he either can’t understand why or just doesn’t care.

Neither of those is great tbh.

CendrillonSings · 26/11/2019 19:23

I don't know how anyone can defend Johnson, he has form for making appalling comments that would have got him sacked from most jobs.

Has his party become rammed full of antisemites under his leadership the way Labour has under Corbyn’s?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/11/2019 19:33

I think it's people happy to turn a blind eye to appalling behaviour.

Justanotherlurker · 26/11/2019 19:38

I think it's people happy to turn a blind eye to appalling behaviour.

I know, how anyone can support Labour with Momentum et al.

Also how anyone can pretend they understand the globalised economy or want to think of their children and future children and trust Mcdonell and Corbyn.

Shows a complete lack of critical thinking and just playing politics as a team sport, especially after the past 3 years.

Trewser · 26/11/2019 19:44

I don't know how anyone can defend Johnson, he has form for making appalling comments that would have got him sacked from most jobs

Do you mean the "appalling comments" that he wrote in articles when he was writing for the spectator?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/11/2019 19:48

Playing politics on a pro tory thread? Grin critical thinking you say? Grin

I don't know how anyone can vote for a party that has been in government for 9 years and achieved absolutely nothing positive for ordinary people. Now they run a project fear (ironic) claiming that the alternative is worse because publically run trains are akin to communism.

Xenia · 26/11/2019 20:07

An awful lots of positive things have been achieved for ordinary people in that period.

CendrillonSings · 26/11/2019 20:08

Now they run a project fear (ironic) claiming that the alternative is worse because publically run trains are akin to communism.

Corbyn the economic illiterate is planning to raise direct taxes by 83 billion, plus borrowing hundreds of billions more for his uncosted nationalisations and giveaways.
That’s in Labour’s own (communist) manifesto! Grin

Alsohuman · 26/11/2019 20:10

An awful lots of positive things have been achieved for ordinary people in that period

Name one.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 26/11/2019 20:26

Spending money on get ready to leave on 31/10 propaganda and commemorative coins whilst people queue at food banks is economic competency? Grin

olbndansmummy · 26/11/2019 20:40

Absolutely got to be the tories. Voted leave too. Corbyn, Mcdonnell, Abbott and Thornberry. Perish the thought

ArseDarkly · 26/11/2019 20:42

Blimey, even The Express are reporting that Labour are climbing in the polls! Things must be getting serious Grin

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 26/11/2019 21:02

Labour are just as full of crap as the Conservatives.

Tough luck JC fans.

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