To invite Conservative voters to gather here

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It’s ‘best of a bad bunch’ in my case but there are three threads petrified of BJ/Tories so wondered if any MN Tories would like to gather here!

It has been ever thus on MN @Parsley65. I do wish there was a right-leaning forum where we could all go and hang out!

Limited I am not a Tory voter, but I am for the first time considering voting for them and am very worried about about the Judicial Review thing too. However, it is not my number one issue and it is a consultation rather than a proposal. Still, it is one of those issues we would need to be “on” if the conservatives won,

I was going to come on here and comment how refreshing it was to find that I wasn't the only Tory voter on MN

Yep. I came on here expecting that. But it’s been a Tsunami of Corbynistas who are outraged by the very idea anyone dares Tory.

Dwp alone has caused so many deaths. When you have to hear first hand about people trying to take their own life over their disability benifits being cut it opens your eyes a little more. There is so much to cover but it is pointless to explain here. Unfit rentals affecting health, kids living in bedsits due to no houses, causing illness, homeless deaths, even overstretched trainee doctors and nurses have taken their lives and stated it is the governments fault. No one should use these deaths to try and convince some one else as if these people weren't each individuals with a story, but they definately shouldn't just be brushed aside by people who don't want to think there might be an underlying unsavoury cause.

Thankfully woolie has vanished

Hello, I am back in the room - La Elephantina Socialista bringing you a virtual glass of champagne and suggesting that if you like Disraeli and Tory Democracy then the Lib Dems may be a better party for you - or even daring you to take the plunge and dive happily into the Labour waters... come on you know you want to :)

What exactly have I don't that had upset you so much?

Not completely zero - they’re making me feel even more certain about my decision to vote Conservative

Quite so. It’s indicative of a stunning lack of self awareness. But then again, ‘unintended consequences’ isn’t in their lexicon....

I’m not a Corbynista. I am not a member of the Labour Party and he’s not the leader I’d choose (mainly because we live in an increasingly right wing country and someone more moderate would have a higher chance of success).

I am utterly sick to death however of tory voters moaning that everyone treats them like they’re evil - if you vote for them, you are complicit in their policies and the impact of those policies. And since you clearly don’t give a toss, you’re not exactly a shining example of human decency, are you?

It’s indicative of a stunning lack of self awareness.

I’ve read some ironic statements on this thread but this really takes the

*He could easily have written those articles without references to letterboxes, bank robbers, grinning piccaninies, water melon smiles, tank topped bum boys but he didn’t. Because he knows his Telegraph readership well.

Ooh, you’re reminding me of just how much I like “shamelessly offensive” Boris. I do wish we could hear more from him in this election.*

I rest my case.

PaleBlue it has been in previous manifestos and I wasn’t particularly concerned, but with all the more moderate one nation Tories stepping down and the Supreme Court ruling on the prorogation, I suspect it will be a priority for them to prevent any more scrutiny from Parliament on Brexit matters, as I understand Parliament don’t currently get a say on any FTA post Brexit and this is likely to be legally challenged.

Deathgrip only the wilfully blind would refuse to examine the facts laid in front of them, if they could possibly ruin the narrative they have decided upon

Oh, the irony.

Ok, deathgrip, you win. The Tories were responsible for all those deaths, and anyone voting Tory also has blood on their hands.

Now none of us need to spend any more time or energy debating this and you can go have a pleasant evening elsewhere.

Yes I am one and have even joined the Conservative party to help to keep Corbyn out because he will bankrupt the country with all the over spending he has promised. As for free internet for all! what is going to happen to all the providers like Virgin, Talk Talk, Sky etc? The man is crazy to think that will work.

Hitler was evil. Murderers are evil.

I have a different perspective to you on how society should be organised and run.

It doesn’t make me evil! 🙄

Anyway, back to the main thread.

What I would like to see is a Conservative government with a healthy majority. I’d like us to leave Europe (and the sun will still rise and set every morning when we do, no matter how much the catastrophisers would have you think otherwise!) and then I am looking forward to seeing how Boris would run this country now that we are starting to emerge from austerity.

What those “fact checks” are saying is that the mortality gap under this government might just be a coincidence and not at all related to the health and social care cuts? Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

From the study itself: “A limitation was that our study was observational and retrospective, thereby our findings likely capture association rather than causation.”

26 ages - very good indeed. Keep up the good work.

For those considering voting conservative - make up your own mind, do vote -every vote counts in keeping Corbyn out.

Conservative and Labour voters are mostly both very good people as are Corbyn and Johnson, both could have done better in other jobs (actually Corbyn may be not as he only got was it 2 Es at A level despite a bit of private education). They both mean well and work hard for the country. There is a lot of pointless name calling on all sides. However the bottom line is that Tory policies are better for Britain and it would be wonderfu to get a landslide and if not that a majority Tory Government next month.

Hitler was evil. Murderers are evil.

I have a different perspective to you on how society should be organised and run.

It doesn’t make me evil! 🙄

I didn’t say tory voters were evil. I said I’m tired of them complaining about being maligned when they are actively choosing to support a government causing legitimate harm to people. At least be honest about it.

Ok, deathgrip, you win. The Tories were responsible for all those deaths, and anyone voting Tory also has blood on their hands.

Now none of us need to spend any more time or energy debating this and you can go have a pleasant evening elsewhere.

Nice deflection. Still can’t answer the question obviously because we both know it’s indefensible.

Deathgrip, knock yourself out. Your hysteria is comical. But don’t dare to lecture me on voting for a morally bankrupt party. The last time Labour were in Downing Street, they invaded Iraq. This time they’re planning state confiscation of assets. Team Bankrupt. No thanks

To those worried about Labours spending plans I assume you were all having sleepless nights when the tories were throwing money around like confetti paying for brexit.

I'm not hysterical or emotional, if you bother to read my earlier posts. Not trying to persuade anyone either.

Just thought it is interesting to have some debate/discussion not the 'echo chamber' that some posters have mentioned.

Hello, I am back in the room - La Elephantina Socialista bringing you a virtual glass of champagne and suggesting that if you like Disraeli and Tory Democracy then the Lib Dems may be a better party for you - or even daring you to take the plunge and dive happily into the Labour waters... come on you know you want to

Elephantina, I disagree. Nevertheless, I do like the cut of your jib.

To those worried about Labours spending plans I assume you were all having sleepless nights when the tories were throwing money around like confetti paying for brexit.

I voted for Brexit and assumed there'd be a cost. No sleepless nights.