To invite Conservative voters to gather here

[Goddessofgrowth]

It’s ‘best of a bad bunch’ in my case but there are three threads petrified of BJ/Tories so wondered if any MN Tories would like to gather here!

As a Conservative voter, who has conservative values, I would never dream of even opening a 'Labour voters' thread, much less repeatedly commenting to say why they are all "wrong!"

Me neither. Nor would I dream of vandalising a "vote labour" placard, poster etc. But all the conservative ones in my town have been destroyed.

I would never dream of commenting on someone's choice of newspaper.

I would also never dream of posting hate filled rants about people who voted remain on my Facebook nor call people who voted a certain way 'murderers' and so on.

It is usually the far left who do pull this crap. And more recently, just the left.

I was blown away by the economic knowledge of the Question Time audience in Bolton

So was I, especially the guy who thought his £80k salary put him in the bottom 50% of the population. Truly impressive.

I love the Tory mantra of reduce immigration but then want to increase the nurses by recruiting from abroad.
Some would think this perverse.

It isn’t perverse. Reducing immigration means having immigrants who have a skill we need. One of these may be nurses.

Hence an Australian type points system.

Can the Corbyn fan club just sod off and start their own thread please, the grown ups are talking. Thanks.

Tremendous cognitive dissonance here. Brexit - a hard right construct unleashed hatred and division
An MP was murdered. The gutter press have been peddling anti immigrant rhetoric for decades. How did the breaking point poster help or calling Muslim women letterboxes? This hasn't come from the left.

Can the Corbyn fan club just sod off and start their own thread please, the grown ups are talking. Thanks

And let you all get on with your misinformation campaign? Don’t think so.

@chattybum you just asked for sources. But then said sod off which is it?

@scaryteacher if national security is your biggest concern, why are you so accepting of Russian interference in politics, Russian interference in our media (see John Sweeney) plus the proposed amendments to the Human Rights Act, curtailment of Judicial Review and proposal to abolish our independent Judiciary in favour of US style elected Judges? Both parties are equally horrific, but Labour will not get a majority so will not be able to implement any of their more ludicrous policies.

Tory voter here. Always have but do try to ensure I challenge my thinking as often as possible. MN helps with that for sure.

I am more moderate /centre than the current bunch but I believe in small state, low taxes, personal responsibility.

So to wellies and other labour supporters on this thread I put it to you that I don't believe a labour government will help the poor, the homeless, those in need. I don't believe they will improve the NHS and education. Because I fundamentally believe that left wing policies will make everything worse. If they bankrupt the country, renationalise, increase taxes this will mean there is LESS in the treasury to fund initiatives to help.

So your vile claims that only labour supporters have compassion and that Tory voters have none are so misjudged. As for me, and other Tory supporters, we believe that it is our way that will help society.

I don’t see brexit as hard right.

Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn and many others on the left were all eurosceptics.

It's odd that on a public forum where anyone is allowed to join in people want to discuss a very strained political state but expect a large faction of society to be excluded. And then keep yelling insults at someone, whilst accusing them of insulting people when they haven't who doesn't automatically agree with them. And then suggest they are the ones being grownup. I think there are chat rooms you can go to where you can only allow people you chose to talk maybe you should try one of those if you don't like people commenting?

*woolie not wellies. Damn phone.

Being eurosceptic and peddling brexit (a trojan horse for disaster capitalism) are completely different things.

Limited I don't think anything has changed since USSR days, especially with the FSB being a shoe in for the KGB. After all, who did Vlad work for til 91? Once KGB, always KGB. This is like a rerun of the 70s and 80s, for those of us who remember it.

Russia has always tried these ploys; they just get to do it online these days.

I read Sweeneys letter to OFCOM - interesting that figures from both sides of the political spectrum are implicated.

@Alsohuman bahahahaha!!!! Hilarious. Actually you can stay

"The NHS doesn't work because the funding as been decimated by the tories."

This is simply not true. New Labour opened the floodgates of money onto the NHS ....

and it made very little difference, except give us a huge debt that austerity is trying to pay off.

The NHS needs reforming. There needs to be a link between consumer and producer so that layers of bureaucracy are done away with. Please stop screaming about the Americans as though that is the only binary alternative.

ForeverFaff

Quite. Sick of being insulted for exercising my right to choose which party I want to vote for! Tory all the bloody way, even after the fields of wheat shitshow.

I'd be interested to see a tory policy over the last 9 years that has helped ordinary people.

"especially the guy who thought his £80k salary put him in the bottom 50% of the population. Truly impressive."

Wouldn't want to be him at the moment!

I was on the ‘will you leave the UK of Corbyn’s elected’ thread and someone called Oliversmumsarmy disgusting for saying that the prospects for uninsured Americans did not apply to her because she’s.... insured.

I'd be interested to see a tory policy over the last 9 years that has helped ordinary people.

Here's a recent one.

To draw your attention to the govt Help to Save scheme
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3751087-to-draw-your-attention-to-the-govt-help-to-save-scheme

Since you lot are intending to stay, yes by all means please answer my previous question about your superior sources. I'm also interested to know in which direction you will be directing your fury after this election? Just curious.

@usernamerisnotavailable it's not that people are just trying to be horrible it's just logical to me. One party has irrefutable proof or hurting minorities and vulnerable groups. The others manifesto is full of trying to help them. So your choice is to go with the one you know has no intention of helping the poor, or go with the one who says they will. But you don't want. To because it could affect you economically. So it's fine to say I'm just looking out for myself if you are. That's allowed. But people can't help but think you care about others when you willingly and knowingly vote for the party that has caused thee trouble. Which means you are a nice person and don't fully understand what you are voting for, or know exactly what you are voting for and don't mind.