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Am I BU or blowing this out of proportion?

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MrsGarland · 24/11/2019 23:54

Full disclosure, DH is nice to the point of being a pushover and SIL is, in my opinion, controlling and bossy.

We live in the same area as PILs, who are in poor health. SIL has also moved in the last few years to be closer to her parents. SIL is quite obviously the favourite and takes the piss massively with PILs in all the usual ways. She likes to be the centre of attention and resents any of the other siblings having the spotlight - when you look back at key family events, you can link them to the SIL drama running parallel.

I am on maternity leave with our first child. DH works long shifts where he is on his feet for hours at a time. We live in a property which is charming but rickety, it was long term neglected and we have been doing it up while I've been on maternity leave - workmen etc in and out, having to negotiate taking the bins down a long driveway covered in rubble with a baby in the sling, that sort of thing. Not a big deal really, but I had a difficult recovery from birth, still am not 100%, baby is a shit sleeper and I haven't sat on the sofa eating biscuits nearly as much as I would like.

So on Fridays SIL works for a few hours in the afternoon. She works three afternoons a week. DH also works Fridays, however he works a short shift and is home by 4. SIL works 1-5.

SIL has taken to phoning DH and asking him to go round and put her heating on for her, so her house is nice and toasty when she comes in from work. DH, for a few weeks, did this. At first it didn't really sink in, then one week he had barely set foot through the door and she was on the phone reminding him. Bear in mind I'm alone in the house for much of the week and doing bedtimes as well. He did it another few times, though agreed it was ridiculous. Then two Fridays past, I'd had a shocker of a day. I went out with the baby and came home to find the washing machine leaking, the cat had been sick, the baby pooed everywhere... One of those days. I could have cried. I ran around like a headless chicken, turning on my OWN heating for God's sake, and by the time DH got back I only just had it under control and was desperate for ten minutes peace, just to have a wee and a cuppa. SIL made her usual phonecall as I was regaling DH with my tales of woe, and I'm sorry to say I lost it, told DH that SIL was bone fucking idle and that he was a mug who needed to think about his own wife and baby, who had come back to a soaking freezing house while his sister stepped into her door in comfort. I have never felt rage like it, I could have killed both of them.

So DH went very quiet, but he did agree with me and he told SIL that no, he didn't have the time. SIL just went "OK fine" but the next Friday (this past one) MIL phoned and asked DH if he could nip round and put SILS heating on as she wasn't feeling well and had Sils children and it would save her loading them in the car etc. MIL has chronic fatigue but dances to SILs tune to, imo, the detriment of her own health. DH nearly fell for it, but he saw my face and told MIL that he was busy with his own family and it wouldn't kill SIL to put on her own heating and be cold for half an hour.

SIL is now in a massive huff with us (pointed Facebook vaguebooking, being off with DH when he dropped in to PILs today) and now I'm second guessing myself. On one hand, I still think she's a spoilt cow, on the other hand I think, it's only 20 minutes out of DH's day and it's doing a family member a favour? I don't know if it's hormones, but then I think of how much I've struggled at times with the baby and the house, and how DH's family have been nowhere to be seen and I want to scream at the.

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WhatchaMaCalllit · 25/11/2019 10:37

Ohhh, that's not such bad advice there from @MaybeDoctor. If your DH gets another "woe is me" type phone call from his sister, he could pop around and let himself in and then leave the key in her house. Then the next time he can say to her "Sis, I don't have a key to your house. I don't want a key to your house. I have my own house and my own wife and child to be looking after. You sound like you need a housekeeper or butler and I'm neither. You will have to sort out your own heating/cooking/babysitting etc. as I'm no longer able to do it for you." It doesn't have to be said in an aggressive way but it does have to be said in an assertive way, so that she can't be left with any impression that her brother is the one to contact for simple things that she can do.

asIlayfrying · 25/11/2019 10:41

Nope you are not being unreasonable. I have a sister like your SIL. I remember going round once to my parents, heavily pregnant with a toddler, just wanting a break for ten mins as I had SPD, and there she was with my mother making her kids dress up costumes and she barked at me to take her son to the playground. I could barely walk. I told her as much and she suddenly seemed to realise that the world didn't revolve around her.

Your SIL is likely so entitled, so used to getting everyone running around her, that she was completely taken aback by a No. But you're doing her a favour and your DH is good to stick up for his own family.

BlackSwanGreen · 25/11/2019 10:48

I come from a small family of people who would rather boil their nipples than have a picture frame saying FAMILY in the house

Grin Grin Grin

I agree with everyone else, OP.

BlingLoving · 25/11/2019 10:48

I think these situations often develop because the relevant family member genuinely does need help at some point for one reason or another. And then somehow it just escalates and becomes standard and no one notices that it's slipped from genuine need to completely "taking the piss".

In a healthy family dynamic with "nice" people, when it's pointed out, it stops. But that doesn't sound the case here. I'm not sure I have any advice, but do agree completely it must stop.

Also, I'd be RAGING that the reason dh has to do this for h er is because she's too bloody scared of a timer?! That is so bloody irrational and makes me ALMOST as annoyed as the time we* had to schlepp all the way from a day sightseeing in London back to SIL's house so that we could check MIL in for a flight the following night THEN schlepp BACK into London for our planned dinner as MIL didn't trust the mobile App for checking in.

*I refused to do any such schlepping and found a coffee shop to sit in while the rest of them went home.

BlingLoving · 25/11/2019 10:48

I'd definitely get DH to ask her for a favour and see what happens...

pooopypants · 25/11/2019 10:50

I wonder what would happen if she found a pea under her mattress.... she wouldn't be able to walk for a week

Cheeky, entitled, lazy bitch. Send her a link for a smart whatnot and ignore from here on in.

RhinoskinhaveI · 25/11/2019 10:52

I wish I had a SIL like that ...I would have such a lot of fun winding her up 😈

MrsGarland · 25/11/2019 10:58

DH doesn't have a key, SIL has a spare key lying in a safe place.

Agree that it came from a place where SIL did genuinely need help- she struggled with the breakdown of her marriage. But it's definitely long been in the taking the piss territory now.

I once read that people who are seen to cope end up having more and more put on them, whereas people who act helpless from the start, don't. I can see this in practise with me and SIL. I feel like pointing out to DH that sil is a grown adult who can do things for herself, and his life, on the other hand, would become extremely uncomfortable if I behaved the way she does

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mbosnz · 25/11/2019 11:03

This is going to sound bad, but I'm glad you had such a bad day that it made you burst your boiler and enabled DH to see just how much his sister is taking the proverbial. And that you clearly have a face like mine which very clearly shows what you're thinking!

Your SIL is an adult and a mother, and she's going to have to learn to stand on her own two feet when she can, so that she doesn't run out of a shoulder to lean on when she needs it. And maybe she ought to return a fair few of the favours everyone's been doing her while she's at it, because it sounds like she's very much in deficit.

FizzyGreenWater · 25/11/2019 11:21

In addition to stating that this is about control, yes you should absolutely also make this point:

I feel like pointing out to DH that sil is a grown adult who can do things for herself, and his life, on the other hand, would become extremely uncomfortable if I behaved the way she does

Booboostwo · 25/11/2019 11:21

This was a ridiculous request in the first place but reading your update it is clear SIL is doing it in purpose and is jealous of the time your DH spends with you and his DC. Your DH needs to read this thread and realize that he’s being taken advantage of before it affects his relationship with you and his DC.

TheTeenageYears · 25/11/2019 11:24

OP you did absolutely the right thing. sIL is completely taking the mick and the more everyone does for her the more she will demand.. she should absolutely be using the programmer if there is one or installing a Hive so she can have all the flexibility in the world over heating coming on and going off. If she doesn’t have a programmer she is either used to waking up and having to wait for the house to heat up in the morning or leaving the heating on overnight. Either of these would be reasonable counter arguments to her not wanting to come back to a cold house or wanting to use a programmer to switch the heating on whilst she’s out.

When you update your own heating I would strongly recommend a Hive or other smart programmer but also if you are extensively changing the system opt to have an upstairs and a downstairs ring. That way you only have to heat the area needed and not the whole house. Downstairs on through the day and not the bedrooms, bedrooms late eve/early morn. It’s good for energy saving and therefore better financially.

SistersOfPercy · 25/11/2019 11:30

Mad as a box of frogs.

She needs to install Tado. Works on a geofencing system so knows when you're on your way home as it tracks your phone. It then boosts the heating so it's toasty when you get in.

cees · 25/11/2019 11:31

She sounds infuriating, keep it op. Foot firmly down.

cees · 25/11/2019 11:31

Keep it up 😁

Autumnsloth · 25/11/2019 11:44

This is genuinely one of the most insane things I've ever heard. It would be unreasonable of her to ask you even if you didn't have a baby - as it is, she's the one who should be coming round to help you! Sounds like a control thing to me, why on earth can't she wear an extra layer for a half hour?

tillytrotter1 · 25/11/2019 11:44

Because I cope well with everything,

That's your biggest mistake! I'm a 'coper', I'd rather curl up and die than rely on someone else's help but it does mean that sometimes, looking back, I've let myself be a bit if a doormat.

Even when I was pregnant I just got on with it, I made it look so easy. When my SIL had her second shortly after my first her mother almost lived there and took the house over while she, SIL, lay in bed all day like, in the words of my mother, the Queen of Sheba!
As for your SIL send the adverts for those Hive thingies.

TowelNumber42 · 25/11/2019 11:48

FFS don't send links to Hive etc. She's an adult. She can Google. It isn't hard information to find. It isn't your problem to fix. This isn't about the technology.

Apolloanddaphne · 25/11/2019 12:01

Your SIL needs to understand that your DH now needs to prioritise his own family, not hers. Hopefully she will get the message soon.

Ticklemeelmo · 25/11/2019 12:17

As everyone else has said, she is taking the piss.

Definitely don't back down on this one or she'll view it as a green light to take liberties with you in other ways

KatharinaRosalie · 25/11/2019 12:42

It might be 'only 20 minutes' but when you're home with a baby, then sometimes you're counting down the seconds til the other parent steps in. SIL can keep her coat on for 20 minutes if she can't figure out timers or thermostats.

NoSquirrels · 25/11/2019 12:43

What stands out to me is that your inlaws are TAKERS. And mostly you're expecting them to OFFER in return. They won't. They're expecting you to ask, like they do.

^^This is very wise from eddielizard.

People who hate to ask for help think other people should notice a need and offer. They also think it would be rude to say no to a request for help, because they assume other people really really need the help because otherwise they’d never have dared to ask.

People who ask for outrageously cheeky stuff can’t see past themselves anyway to interpret the needs of others but ALSO - they are not offended to be asked and/or to say no if it doesn’t suit them to do something... and they presume everyone acts like this.

Start asking for more help explicitly and say no more often, OP!

fudgesmummy · 25/11/2019 12:55

You are most definitely not being unreasonable, your SIL is a cheeky cow of the highest order!

RhinoskinhaveI · 25/11/2019 12:57

She doesn't want hive.... why would she need that when she has her brother to act as her own personal version of hive, she has turned him into an algorithm that does her bidding
That's some strong voodoo isn't it 😲

NewNameGuy · 25/11/2019 13:05

I feel like pointing out to DH that sil is a grown adult who can do things for herself, and his life, on the other hand, would become extremely uncomfortable if I behaved the way she does

This is why her husband left I suppose. She sounds like an entitled brat bully.