To feel worried about the future? (Election related)

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I’m incredibly sick of the society we’re living in. It’s bleak and horrible. When you hear about the millions of children in poverty and over 130000 people who have died as a result of austerity it makes me so sad.

My dh and I are working 4 jobs between us just to be able to save up for a house, whereas my elder siblings managed to buy in the 90’s when everything was cheaper with tiny deposits. No matter how we save, house prices keep rising and our “25%” deposit figure keeps getting bigger.

I feel deflated and feel like there’s no hope. Liars and cheats are the winners in this world. Hard working people get nothing. I’m probably feeling over emotional but the thought of another 5 years of tories fills me with terror.

Yanbu

We’ve had two horrible waves of conservative government who take joy from sucking money away from those at the bottom of society.

Yet people get twitchy because labour want to try and get those at the top to pay a little bit more of a share - without appreciating that those people didn’t get there from their efforts alone

Furthermore the Tories are chucking out expensive policies in their manifestos. Why is that ok?

The Tories are disgusting. End of.

I feel for you. You are part of a generation that has been badly treated by society.

I can't believe some of these responses.

I am so wound up by the situation too. NB ALL of the Tories making. They do not care for you and never will. X

Yet people get twitchy because labour want to try and get those at the top to pay a little bit more of a share

Er, that “little bit” is by Labour’s own calculations 83 billion pounds a year in direct tax rises, plus hundreds of billions more in uncosted nationalisations and other giveways. Don’t be disingenuous - that’s a fuckton of new taxes.

Both the Labour and Tory parties are terrible at the moment. I’m hoping for another hung parliament and a people’s vote but suspect a Tory majority unfortunately. I usually vote Tory and have never voted labour but will do so in this election.

I thought stopping Brexit was my biggest priority until reading the Tory manifesto earlier today. It suggests they are going to try and tip the balance of power in favour of the Executive by curtailing judicial review and amending HRA. They have of course included this in their manifestos in previous years but with the exodus of most one nation tories to keep the more extreme faction in check it will probably be third time lucky for them. I suspect they may also try and end the independence of our Judiciary from comments after the SC ruling on prorogation.

Not a particular Jezza fan, but I feel the policy of offering a referendum between a new deal (where all the details will be clear rather than fantasies/lies) and remain, offers the only truly democratic option. Getting Brexit done shafts Scotland and NI (and England but Im ignoring that, assuming there are a lot of kamikaze voters here who want to be poorer and lose the NHS). Equally, just cancelling Brexit would be undemocratic. There needs to be another vote. I am lolling at the idea of Jeremy being called misogynistic in comparison to Boris. Truly one of the funniest and simultaneously depressing pieces of disinformation I’ve encountered around this election. I bet same person has queries about Islamophobia in labour and anti Semitism in tories... not to belittle either problem, both reprehensible but... come on voters do your research?!

Abc123: He’s made his view on Brexit clear: he’s remaining neutral so he can take the country forward. He’s made an adult’s decision. The tories can’t seem to understand this behaviour, because they’re childish idiots.
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Agree with you. He's not sitting on the fence, he'll have another referendum after which he'll abide by the decision even if it isn't what he wants. That's democracy.

The problem is people don't seem to want a person of integrity in charge. We only have to look over the pond to see that.

You'd probably feel a lot better about the future if you took Guardian headlines with a gigantic grain of salt.

Conservative cuts kill people. It’s as simple as that to me.

I’m assuming anybody who wants to vote Tory hasn’t used their own salary to buy breakfast for their own students, who turn up starving for school every day, because the family needs to rely on food banks, and it isn’t enough.

i want brexit to be done

People actually use this line with a straight face?! Gosh.
What does it even mean?!

The rise in taxes has already been clarified. Someone earning £85,000 for example, would be expected to pay an extra £21 a month.

Even with this additional tax they would still be left with over £50,000 a year to take home. Over £4k a month.

There are millions of people in poverty and relying on food banks to survive. How can you justify that but over £4k a month is not acceptable to you?

You'd probably feel a lot better about the future if you took Guardian headlines with a gigantic grain of salt

I work in local government and see first hand what these cuts have done 🤷🏻‍♀️

Anyone in doubt should be brave enough to do their own research. Google isn’t hard to navigate and operate.

As for get brexit done - how fucking naive. We leave the EU but need to assess the terms of a trade deal with the eu. That takes time!

Voters don't want to do research.
They want soundbites and Facebook and whatever the right wing media want them to believe. That, and the natural deference middle englanders have towards someone with a posh voice and natural air of superiority, they believe these people must know better than them cos they are better than them. Top all that with inbred racism and you've got brexit in a nutshell.

Yanbu. I'll be voting labour and hoping for the best. I'm in a tory safe seat so it wont matter but hey ho.

OP, I'm guessing you're quite young.

Life in the U.K. is so much better today than it has been at almost any time in history.

The Lib Dem’s get my vote.

The rise in taxes has already been clarified. Someone earning £85,000 for example, would be expected to pay an extra £21 a month.

Clarified by whom? An economic illiterate? There are plenty of other taxes other than income tax, and Labour is jacking them up to the tune of more than 80 billion pounds a year.

www.ifs.org.uk/election/2019/article/labour-manifesto-an-initial-reaction-from-ifs-researchers

The Labour Party manifesto offers a very substantial increase in the role of the state, one that is even larger than the big increase offered in their last manifesto. They estimate that their measures would push up day-to-day spending by £80 billion in 2023–24, which would be an almost 10% increase on what is currently planned. They estimate that their tax raising measures would bring in a similar sum, which if delivered would push the tax burden well above levels sustained in the UK since the Second World War.

@MrsJoshNavidi tell that to the people relying on food banks and dying due to austerity! Tell that to the families who have to choose between paying for their electricity or feeding their children!

Absolutely appalling ignorance.

With regard to mortgages, it’s swings and roundabouts. When we were house hunting we were only allowed to apply on one salary , interest rates were eye watering and my husband’s flat dropped into negative equity ( like so many people at that time.)
I’m disgusted at how WASPI women were dropped by Boris Johnson, at the leaders’ debate and his sudden claim to stop people needing to sell their properties to fund their care is too little, too late.
We have an environmental crisis but much of what has been proposed is lip service and knee-jerk in its thinking.
Don’t get me started on the NHS and Education... no doubt that the money that’s being touted for them is ‘old’ money like it always is.
House building? Too many luxury apartments/3/4/5 bed homes yet precious little by way of council houses/key worker properties, which both parties had previously promised.
All parties are promising the Earth just to be elected, yet, when they gain power, the balance of payments deficit suddenly enables them to rescind their promises and blame the previous administration.
(Think I’ll put the kettle on and watch Porridge!)

CendrillonSings, I recognise your posting style, you've name changed haven't you. You are a well known prolific tory voter who probably works for them. I'll need to search for your older posts to get your name. Does anyone else remember it?

You realise “get Brexit done” means crash out without a deal at the end of next year? If Bojo gets his majority. It’s a mantra.

I’m going to vote for Corbyn this time. We need a change.

OP yanbu I'm scared the torys and brexit will leave us high and dry and noone will give a fuck because we got our country back.

I have noticed a distinct change in tone of the media’s election reporting this weekend. They think it’s over. With 2 1/2 weeks to go, they think the Tories are home & dry, and that they are going to win a comfortable overall majority. I hope they are wrong, but Labour are so completely useless and Corbyn is such a liability that I’m not optimistic.

How the hell did we end up in this mess? How did we find ourselves forced to choose between a shambolic government led by a habitual liar and an unelectable opposition led by a crank?

9 years of the Tories and pretty much everything has got worse, and don’t even get me started on what the Tory’s horrendous referendum has done to us all. Five more years of this shower will not be pleasant ... unless you’re absolutely loaded. For us normal folk, we can look forward to the NHS being sold off to Trump, continuing underfunding of schools, more foodbanks, more homelessness, and a laughable passport that won’t even be able to provide us with an easy route out of Brexit Island anymore. Vote tactically to stop the Tories. It’s never been more vital.

YANBU I wish there was a way labour could steal this election but I just don't think it's possible:( I wasn't originally going to vote Labour (I prefer lib dems) but I like their manifesto, having a vote on brexit is more democratic than just revoking it (as much as I wish we would!), and I live in a Labour seat at risk of being stolen by the Tories. Tories running a really dodgy campaign full of lies and sneakinessand it's depressing that it doesn't seem to be hurting them in any way except for making those of us who were never going to vote for them despise them even more:/ why would anyone want this lot to stay in charge of the country? Don't get it.

Life in the U.K. is so much better today than it has been at almost any time in history.

Not if you're poor or disabled. Another few years of this shower and it'll be as bad as Victorian times.

I'm very concerned about an ERG -led Tory majority with a No Deal Brexit still firmly on the horizon. Very worried as PP said about more powers for the Executive.

I haven't voted Labour for nearly 20 years and am not a Corbyn fan and would like to see the moderates in charge but the more I see Johnson, the better Corbyn looks. I'm definitely voting Labour this time.