to ask if you will be (considering) leaving the UK if Labour/Corbyn get into power?

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If so, where will you be going?

You say it like just moving country is such an easy thing to do.

If you honestly think that Boris and the Tories are the right thing for this country, then I think it would be better for us all if you did leave.

I'm not a fan of Labour, but they're the best hope we've got right now.

Good riddance??! I thought these were the people who were going to pay for Labour's plans! If they go where will they get their money from?

All those saying good riddance. Will you be picking up the tab for the £140 billion Labour want to spend.

On my own, no. Collectively? Yes. It's cheaper than the shitstorm that is the Tory party. And what do you think businesses are currently doing? Brexit has them leaving in their droves.

If the Tories stay in I'm looking at Scotland where they welcome ethnic minorities.
Not the tories who believe in looking to Ireland as a pinnacle of how to treat us.
I'm part Jewish/ Romany, so my family have seen their share of racism and discrimination.
I'm labour all the way and my family, in general can see past the propaganda.

If the Tories get into power again, after the horrors they have visited upon us, I am moving to Scotland and campaigning for independence.

You and me both, @ofwarren. I've told DP to get a copy of his late father's birth certificate, so that he can prove he's half-Scottish if need be.

We've also been wondering whether we should put some of our savings into Euros as a hedge against a collapse in the £ if we get a no-deal Brexit. We have a euro account that DP has had for years, so it would be easy.

If you want to transform the scale and scope of the state then you need to be clear that the tax increases required to do that will need to be widely shared rather than pretending that everything can be paid for by companies and the rich

THANK YOU IFS. this is what I've been saying for years

This comes up every time :

Will the last person to leave the UK turn out the lights?

Headlines

Did the proposed exodus after the last Labour elected government actually occur? No.

It's hysteria and bombast

I made a temporary relocation permanent after the referendum.

If Labour get in and there's a second referendum that leads to a Remain result, or the likely mythical 'good deal', I'd likely come back.

If the Torries win I'll maintain my status as a rat having escaped a sinking ship

vanya the last labour govt were not a bit like this one would be.

Yes, exactly, the constant ‘the few will pay’ refrain is so dishonest and out of step with what economists know about how people and companies respond to tax.

Yes, independent Scotland with its lovely budget deficit who will be slashing spending and raising taxes to try and meet EU entry criteria, and all that IF you can find a job in this post brexit post screxit quagmire.

If the Torries win I'll maintain my status as a rat having escaped a sinking ship where did you relocate to?

I would like to stay here. As a Scot living in England with English DH/DS, Welsh, Irish and English ancestry, I am BRITISH and don't want the Union to break up. My only hope of this happening is Labour, and I am proud to be a Labour Party member. HTH, OP (not that you are a real person, obvs).

I'm not a fan of Labour, but they're the best hope we've got right now.
This is where I am. Not enamored with the idea of PM Corbyn, but if that's what it takes to stop the Torries destroying the country, he has my vote.

Oh no, how awful, a fair country with well funded public services. Run, run to lands were only the rich have a good standard of living, and we can have slave labour, exploit the poor and let ill people die so they will no longer burden society.

That bastard Corbyn.

Why do you care spamatha you don't live here anyway 🤔

Oh no, how awful, a fair country with well funded public services

This is what everyone wants. But this isn't what is in the Labour manifesto.

Spamantha said she'd like to come back. No need to get yer Trews in a twist.

Did the proposed exodus after the last Labour elected government actually occur? No

But the exodus did happen years ago after Labour got in and spent similar and decided that the rich would pay.

Whilst Labour were rubbing their hands with glee the rich who were supposed to pay for their spending follies were handing their keys to Estate agents and buying plane tickets out of here.

Viewed many a house where the owners had thrown a few things into a suitcase and left.

Pickfords International was left to clear the house when it sold.

If the Tories retain power I will apply for citizenship for my children of another country they technically qualify for, which until now we haven't needed.

My duty is to proved them with an escape route from a Brexit UK.

When I next move I'm going back to a Labour constituency.

I've never lived in a Labour constituency, although my old constituency in London went Labour a year or so after I moved away.

I'm in a Tory/LD marginal now, so vote tactically (Labour only get around 11% of the vote here). I've voted in every GE since 1974 and didn't vote for a winning candidate until the LDs won here in 1997.

Then the yellow fuckers propped up the Tories, so I voted Green instead in 2015 and 2017. I'm tempted to revert to the LDs in the hope of getting rid of our brain-dead Tory MP, but I think Swinson will take the Tory shilling if there's a hung parliament.

I'd really kick myself then. Fool me once etc.

I’m surprised that the labour manifesto not gets us back to school spending we had in 2009-2010. So the best they can do for kids already at school is what new labour did. Not that radical on that front.

The last Labour Government was Tony Blair and they were relaxed about wealth. The IFS have done the maths to back up what most of us know: these policies are not affordable without massive tax hikes. Business will run away from this and that leads to unemployment. Pensions for ordinary people will be hit because the pensions are invested in the utilities and companies to be sold to the govt at a knock down price. This will be a disaster for the ordinary person.

No government hits housing targets. The wealthy DC will benefit from no tuition fees. Ordinary people will pay for these through higher taxation when already paying off their loans! Great policy that one!

I won’t live anywhere else but trade is international so Ireland and The Netherlands would be a good home for disaffected businesses. I don’t trust the government to run anything. They could not run Brexit. They cannot run the NHS, or schools and now we are expected to believe they will run more and more and more on our behalf. No chance. They will meddle and really mess up just as they did before the railways were privatised. It was a dire service with no investment. Buying out owners is one thing, running a service efficiently and effectively is totally different.

Many countries run coalition governments and work together. It’s not a bad thing to have coalitions and we need to accept they might represent voting patterns. We are no longer a two party state.

One thing that stands out to me reading this thread is that there are people, probably quite rightly, saying the wealth (as in businesses etc) will leave the country and then services will be decimated.
I will accept that argument, I don’t understand the details of the economics although I get the broad gist of it, and I can see how it would come about. I don’t understand enough to say confidently the likelihood of it occurring.
There are people saying “Good riddance”. To reply saying “do you not understand services will be decimated?” just seems to miss the point to me. Services are already decimated. Schools don’t have enough money, terminally ill people are being deemed fit to work, mental health services are non-existent. If you are dealing with a severely disabled child with no support available because there is no funding, then being told “Under Corbin there will be no money to help you” holds no terrors because you are already there.
Maybe businesses will leave the country, but it’s not as though having them here is making life easier for everyone, is it? There are loads of people who simply don’t see much of that help so why not vote for someone who says “We are at least going to try and help” rather than “We know you are living a nightmare but we want the business to stay so screw you” which is frankly what the Tory gvt do.
Maybe there will be less money overall but maybe, just maybe, you creep higher up the chain of priority and so your life actually gets easier. Maybe it won’t and maybe that’s not the way it works but saying to people “You will have nothing” when they already have nothing isn’t going to win you any arguments.

Why do you care spamatha you don't live here anyway
Because I'm an English and would like to return to the UK but am mindful of my economic security. I do hope that's okay with you.