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to ask if you will be (considering) leaving the UK if Labour/Corbyn get into power?

709 replies

oliwki · 21/11/2019 18:27

If so, where will you be going?

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MarshmallowMuggle · 23/11/2019 05:36

But it’s not the average person who’ll pick up and leave.

It’s the small percentage that is paying a big percentage of the tax bill.

Then what?

outherealone · 23/11/2019 05:37

Tony Blair (who I don't like btw) cannot stand the man.

Your point being???

outherealone · 23/11/2019 05:41

@JoObrien7
Spoken like a true landlord.
Bless you.!

Frenchw1fe · 23/11/2019 05:53

@Merryweather80
Your comment on Diane Abbot is pure Daily Mail.
She messed up once on some numbers as have many other male mp’s but you pick on the black female mp. Says a lot more about you than it does her.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 06:13

@outhereakalone

A true landord who came from a rough housing estate and lived in a 3 bedroomed council house with7 other people (my mother was 19 years old and had to work to support me because my father had left her with no money and no home so she had to move in with her parents who had 4 other children). I have worked hard to get what I have ... what have you done?

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 06:15

@SinkGirl

How old are you? I have a blind lady in one of my houses who I let live there at a reduced rent and when she had difficulty getting benefits I let her pay no rent for months because she has 3 children and the council refused to help her.

Willowcat77 · 23/11/2019 06:17

@merryweather80 It's Corbyn, not 'Corbin', do you really not know that? 🙄

You sound like you've just violently regurgited every single right-wing tabloid anti-Corbyn smear you've ever read. Quite impressive, though a little unhinged.

Good luck with Boris, a known liar and actual, proven racist and homophobe.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 06:18

Also at the moment a nurse owes me £4000 because she is debt and I have allowed her to live there and pay me back installments because I don't want to make her and her two children homeless.

I know what it is like to be poor and have second hand clothes and hand me down shoes because I mother could not afford to buy them.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 06:19

Sorry about the typos in my last post but I have to be in London later and I am rushing to get ready.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 06:24

I actually I have a man in one of my houses who will vote for Labour because he wants more benefits which he knows he will get if Labour come to power. He is 25 years old and has 3 children and has never worked and never will because he gets more on benefits than doing a job because I can't get one that pays enough with him having no qualification (he can hardly read or write)

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 06:26

I could tell you more stories about past and present tenants but I won't because I do have some hard working people in some of my houses who I consider friends.

outherealone · 23/11/2019 07:23

@joobrien we had a very similar upbringing.

In answer to your question ‘what have you done?’ (As though my achievements and output are the only important thing....):
I chose a career that lets me use my experience and wisdom to show kindness and compassion to people who have less than me.
I also volunteer work in my own time with vulnerable people whilst having disabilities myself and being a single parent.
My upbringing of poverty and abuse means I would never dream of voting anything other than labour.
I have worked in housing and I have worked with many, many landlords. The majority are absolute greedy arseholes. I have also lived in many substandard private rental properties and you sound exactly like every landlord I’ve ever known.
I’m stunned that someone with your background speaks like a true blue Tory. You should hang your head in shame for voting conservative, regardless of the needy people you say you’re supporting in your many properties.
Hth.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 07:28

@outherealone

You are entitled to your opinion and I actually help at a charity and donate money and stuff all the time. I don't treat being a landlord as a business and the money I make from it sits in the bank for repairs etc.

It is entirely your choice to vote Labour my Grandfather was in a Union and a strong Labour supporter but I have no intention of ever voting for Labour again while Jeremy is in charge. You do know Jeremy is privately educated and owns several properties around world and he is a multi millionaire just like Boris Johnson.

outherealone · 23/11/2019 07:28

hard working people are they the only ones that count? You’re worried about BT managers and shareholders?
Fuck me, someone who hasn’t worked as hard as you might get something cheap or for free and that offends you?!!!!
You are Thatcher’s dream. Alan Sugar, one time labour peer, ‘pulled himself up by his bootstraps from the gutter’ and became a Tory loving (Karin Brady) megalomaniac.
He left labour because of their stance on taxing businesses!
Once you people get a taste of the profits you forget who you are and leave the poor and vulnerable behind.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 07:32

Jeremy Corbyn is worth 3 million ... I wish I had his money.

www.spearswms.com/jeremy-corbyn-net-worth/

emilybrontescorsett · 23/11/2019 07:33

I’ll be celebrating.
I am say in all honesty that I have suffered financially most under conservative governments.
I speak as a person who worked full time, owned a house and had a family to support.

Definitely better off under a labour government.

I speak from experience.

That is without even thinking about the wider picture.

JoObrien7 · 23/11/2019 07:34

@outherealone

I have to catch a train to London at 8am so I will leave you to it now.

Labour will not win I'm afraid ... just look at the polls.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/11/2019 07:34

I will be celebrating, if the other lots get in though...

outherealone · 23/11/2019 07:48

So privately educated people can’t have a social conscience?
How do you know that mixing with privately educated people wouldn’t make you question that world and want something different?
I have family members who were at uni with Jeremy Corbyn and I can swear that he lived like any other impoverished working class student in that era. They were certainly not living like the vile Tory bullingdon boys. He has stood by socialist principles all his life, personally and politically.
He has dedicated his life to fighting for others less fortunate.
Unlike Johnson (or Tony Blair who you bizarrely cited), he is not a careerist politician. He didn’t get into politics for money.
I don’t know where you get your facts from regarding his multiple properties, neither do I recognise (therefore don’t respect) that publication you have linked to.
Most homeowners in London are worth at least 1 million.
You let your grandfather down.....

Tellmetruth4 · 23/11/2019 07:51

I can’t recall a time recently when the polls correctly predicted an election. Yougov is the biggest joke of them all. They probably currently have Labour on 30% and Cons on 320%! Don’t know why anyone pays any attention although I’m interested in where they collect their data.

Pomley · 23/11/2019 07:52

You let your grandfather down.....

What a nasty thing to say.

YouJustDoYou · 23/11/2019 08:04

Once you people get a taste of the profits you forget who you are and leave the poor and vulnerable behind

Which is why socialism never, ever works. Animal Farm is as accurate now as it ever was when it was written.

outherealone · 23/11/2019 08:07

Well I’m angry. Working class tories with her attitude are the ones who have really fucked this country through greed, selfishness and believing all the spin and lies.
They play right into the hands of big business and tax evaders.
They’ve let us all down tbf.

MoodLighting · 23/11/2019 08:12

Nope. But we may have to move if the Tories make a hard Brexit which would decimate the sectors that H and I work in.

outherealone · 23/11/2019 08:16

Of course it works if done properly. It doesn’t have to be extreme a la communism.
The disparity between rich and poor now is awful. If we continue with this trajectory, foodbanks and zero hour contracts will take us back to the days of work houses and poorhouses.
People aren’t paying their way. We have a tax system that only a section of workers and business pay into.
slum landlords are profiting from the desperate and kids are turning to sex work to fund their way through uni.
Street crime is at a peak as there’s not enough police on the frontline thanks to Tory cuts.
Our Nhs is being cut to shreds. They want to remove it altogether, have no doubt about that. Generations have fought for rights for women, for workers, for the vulnerable. We are seeing those rights get chipped away at and it will be worse the longer we let people like Johnson and trump have the power. Anyone who cannot see this is wilfully blind. Or simply very fortunate to not need public services or agency support in difficult times.
You tell me how conservatism has improved or is going to improve the living conditions of the millions who’ve suffered under the last ten years of cuts, austerity measures and Tory rule.

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