to ask if you will be (considering) leaving the UK if Labour/Corbyn get into power?

[oliwki]

If so, where will you be going?

I will literally be beside myself with joy... probably sobbing with happiness. Why on earth would I leave? Of course nobody will leave!

I am no fan of Corbyn, but I am much more concerned about the effects of a Tory majority pushing through a no deal Brexit. It will decimate the economy.

Corbyn won't get a majority and a coalition will look different to the current manifesto. And if it's really shit we can change our mind at the next election, unlike Brexit.

Yes, would consider but, due to children, would probably hope it was just 5 years of pain.

He is like an anti semitic intellectually challenged version of Michael Foot. Back to the IMF for a loan, methinks....

Under labour 95% of us taxes wouldn’t change Only billionaires

You think 5% of the UK population are billionaires?

I have been out of the country for almost two decades, and that would be the only way I would consider coming back.

Yes I’d definitely leave. Why would I want to live in a country governed by a man who believes in fairness, equality and social justice?

If JC gets in i will cry tears of pure joy. I feel emotional even thinking about it.

The tories have brought this country to its knees. They have no real vision, zero empathy for the people they are (allegedly) governing (unless you’re rich obviously) They are beyond a disgrace and they need to go!

I am no fan of Corbyn, but I am much more concerned about the effects of a Tory majority pushing through a no deal Brexit. It will decimate the economy

I thought they had a deal?

Probably Australia.

I’m not funding that goons protected budget. It’s bordering on being a Ponzi scheme

Just like all the Americans who went to Canada when Trump won ie nobody will actually do that.

People are so melodramatic.

That's because the stock market and economy in general have done very well under Trump. Ultimately, this is what people care about. The people who despise what Trump stands for congregate in sympathetic crowds along the coasts and continue to prosper.

Of course there will be capital flight under Corbyn, no one is going to stick around for this nonsense. I'm amused at the oil company 'windfall' (reverse windfall?). Good luck fella.

It is true that the people who on the one hand claim that the UK is a trivial player on the global scene and will be destroyed by leaving the Common Market, will at the same time be able to retain big employers while imposing far more punishing restrictions than the absolute worst case scenario of a no-deal Brexit.

A 25% increase in minimum wage, 10% of equity 'democratically redistributed' amongst its employees (but really to the state,), an increase in corporation tax, windfall taxes, etc.

I'd be very pleased if Labour got in.

I'm dreading the Tories fucking up the country more than they have already with their self interest and racism, and I'm fairly bemused by people who think that Corbyn is ridiculously far left.

Trewser - Johnson has a transition agreement which runs until Dec 2020. An FTA (plus security arrangements, science, education and international development) has to be negotiated and completed by then. If it's not we crash out.

Nobody believes an FTA can be negotiated in 11 months. Average period for to agree an FTA is 48 months (see Catherine Barnards evidence to the Brexit Select Committee, she's a prof in EU law at Cambridge Uni). An extension can be agreed but it has to be applied for by July - the Conservatives have said they will not extend and if they get a majority we will be unable to apply pressure to make them extend.

The transition deal is a means to an end - a crash out in a year.

We've spent £66 billion on Brexit. A further £70 billion is estimated over the next 5 years.

Can someone please explain how socialism causes hardship?

it doesn't, 45. People just seem to get very twitchy about 'what's mine is mine' until they themselves need help.

I left the UK almost 13 years ago. Corbin and Labour getting in might actually be enough to sway me to consider coming back. The Tories getting back in again is such a grim and depressing (very real) prospect.

Oliversmumsarmy, I'm astonished that, having experienced first hand the horrors of an underfunded NHS, because you can buy yourself a better service, the rest of us can just fuck off.

She’s always talking about how deprived her childhood was too, yet is first in line to inflict that on countless other children now. It defies belief.

Socialist policies caused hardship in the late 70s - unemployment. That’s why we moved away from govt control of the economy.

If you are Polish @oliwki, I am judging by the spelling of your nick, you could definitely go to back Poland where PiS rules and there's already very little trace left of the National Health provision and the rich are getting richer, esp those close to the trough.

Er.. No. Sounds like you believe everything fed to you by the right wing controlled press.
I'm more worried at our country being led by the likes of BoJo and his self serving "the money is mine" cronies.

@treepolitics Actually unemployment rose massively under Thatcher's Conservative government, to over 3 million out of work in 1983

True - unemployment started going up from 1973 significantly though, when thatcher took over there was already a dramatically increasing trend as government economic control was widely discredited.

Blair seems to have presided over the longest window of low unemployment in recent time.

It’s a sincere worry to me that most fiscal experts think corbyn’s manifesto is dishonest about tax and the scope of change is too great.

Of course too much badly managed change has the power to cause hardship.0

Most studies show that raising taxes generally does not lead to companies relocating, nor does it harm the local economy. So... 🤷‍♀️

May I suggest the Ukraine?
It is not that bad actually. Many digital nomads are settling there currently - tax rate of 5% if you are a self employed software developer, booming foodie scene, decent and cheap private healthcare and £5K / month buys you a life of minor royalty, with a castle if you wish.
A couple of British and German friends have settled in Lviv and have never been happier in their lives.

The problem with reasoning like yours Constant is the 5% isn’t numerically very many people. In fact, the IFS found that 3% of working adults (the top 5%) are responsible for half of income tax paid today.

There are no studies about the effect of implementing changes of this scale, just taking the hike to the minimum wage as an example, it’s beyond what most experts can comfortably model.

I think you're asking the wrong question - responses here seem to be from people who believe they will be in the category of people "getting free stuff" rather than those being asked/forced to pay for the free stuff.

I'm in the latter category, and will be taking my family and my taxpayers £ to the US if Corbyn and his cronies get in. I can't sit back and watch them destroy our country economically