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to ask if you will be (considering) leaving the UK if Labour/Corbyn get into power?

709 replies

oliwki · 21/11/2019 18:27

If so, where will you be going?

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donquixotedelamancha · 22/11/2019 00:12

So Oliwki, just joined Mumsnet to make a thread about this have you?

I think you'll find that CCHQ have posted loads on here recently, they just NC a lot is all.

From the minds that brought you: 'lets pretend to be a fact checking service'.

anxioussue · 22/11/2019 00:22

No. If emigrate now if I could but don't have the money and no country would have us anyway. We aren't wanted anywhere because we are poor.

blubelle7 · 22/11/2019 00:29

Think I'll be leaving if Boris wins.

WatchingTheMoon · 22/11/2019 00:32

Just like all the Americans who went to Canada when Trump won ie nobody will actually do that.

People are so melodramatic.

Judemahmoodid · 22/11/2019 00:37

I’m already paying 45%. I’d see how much it rose by before I’d head off. Probably to SE Asia or ME.

user1471448556 · 22/11/2019 00:41

No, even though we run our own business and increase corporation tax would affect us - I’d rather live in a country people aren’t forced to rely on foodbanks and where schools and hospitals are properly funded for all. We have a weird attitude towards taxation in this country - we pay very little tax and people still whinge. If Boris gets in with his hard Brexit I would love to leave and move to Germany, but won’t be able to thanks to losing FOM. Trapped on Brexit island. Hope Boris doesn’t get a majority.

SleightOfMind · 22/11/2019 00:44

DH and I would have our arses taxed off if Corbyn got into power and implemented half the proposals in his manifesto.
Still, I’d rather be poorer for decent reasons than pay twice as much for Johnson’s fuckwitted Brexit.

curlykaren · 22/11/2019 01:02

The uber rich already siphon their money off shore, those of you joking about where the billions are coming from seem to have a pretty poor grasp of just how much money is being stashed elsewhere. So much in fact that the female journalist who broke the story was murdered. Its not a coincidence that GET BREXIT DONE needs to happen NOW. They are running scared of the EU plans for transparency. @Oliversmumsarmy, I'm astonished that, having experienced first hand the horrors of an underfunded NHS, because you can buy yourself a better service, the rest of us can just fuck off.

blubelle7 · 22/11/2019 01:06

@WatchingTheMoon

I will actually leave if Boris comes into power. My husband and children are British, I am a British dual citizen who was a victim of the Windrush scandal because of the hostile environment and suddenly even providing proof that my grandfather was Scottish because I was born abroad and maybe the sound of my name, whatever excuse Home Office wants to give, I was told I was not British when applying for a new passport and told to return to a country I hadn't lived in in 15 years. I spent thousands of pounds to date on solicitors and being forced to apply for residence to live in my own country. My business, my life everything was put at risk. The nightmare is somewhat over but I have reason to suspect will get worse if Boris is reelected. I cannot forgive the Conservatives for the hell I went through and being told at one stage to continue my relationship with my family via Skype and visits in a neutral 3rd country.

curlykaren · 22/11/2019 01:14

@blubelle7 is your situation resolved now? Really hope it's worked out?

blubelle7 · 22/11/2019 01:30

@curlykaren
My situation is resolved but only because I had options and the funds to sort it out. But how would you feel having to prove you are a citizen of your own country. It's beyond insulting. Why? Because my name sounds funny and the colour of my skin. Stupid immigration targets dont even remove irregular migrants (I refuse to call people illegal), Home Office in it's sheer incompetence only targets "people who sound foreign" and people on actual visas, couples, parents and people on paths to settlement by refusing their visas for stupid reasons. I had to get a visa to stay in my own country to prove I was a British citizen. I wasnt on any benefits or anything, but if I was that would have been stopped, I could afford my own healthcare but even my access to the NHS was stopped while 7 months pregnant. The Conservatives can FUCK OFF for all I care. Even 11/11 was tough to swallow, knowing my grandfathers sacrificed their lives in WW2 for me to be treated like a second class citizen in my own country, in the name of their shit xenophobic policies.

WatchingTheMoon · 22/11/2019 01:37

blubelle I wasn't talking about people leaving when Boris gets in but if Labour get in.

Hope your situation is resolved.

curlykaren · 22/11/2019 01:40

Wow, I didn't know that about the withholding of NHS services, fucking appalling. I hope for you, me, all of us, that our next government is labour.

curlykaren · 22/11/2019 01:41

@WatchingTheMoon
I'm sure she knows you were but there aren't many on this thread buying the hysteria.

blubelle7 · 22/11/2019 01:44

Sorry @WatchingTheMoon

I know. I just lost it tbh. I still feel so much rage (my blood literally boils) at the Conservatives especially Theresa May - but that's a whole new thread. I don't think the country can survive another Conservative term.

outherealone · 22/11/2019 01:48

I’d be overjoyed. About time we had a real human in charge instead of all these tax dodging nonce apologists

wurlycurly · 22/11/2019 01:50

My household would be worse off under a labour government. Worse off because we can afford to be! The country would be better off. Bring back a caring, compassionate Britain! Stop the tories from their continued dismantling of the NHS and education system.

Oliversmumsarmy · 22/11/2019 02:18

I'm astonished that, having experienced first hand the horrors of an underfunded NHS, because you can buy yourself a better service, the rest of us can just fuck off

This isn’t about the NHS being underfunded

Some of the things I or family members have experienced go back to the 60s and there is a running theme to it and it is costing the NHS money.

Back in the 60s My aunt having gone through a very difficult birth got very worried that one of her legs was twice the size of the other and felt not right.

Without examining her he dismissed her worries so she asked him again.

His response was to say she was unstable and sectioned her.

Her husband ended up thumping the doctor and another doctor took over and diagnosed my aunt as having a blood clot in her leg.

Nearly 60 years later my Dp went to the doctors over and over and asked if he had bowel cancer.

Dismissed as being paranoid and to stop googling illnesses.
Dp is a guy who has, apart from when he was diagnosed with diabetes. (diagnosed initially with stress after he lost 7 stone in weight) never had a day off work on his life.

He was diagnosed on a trolley in A&E with stage 4 cancer

And incidences in between where doctors don’t listen.

This is a mixture of incompetence and arrogance not underfunding.

Oliversmumsarmy · 22/11/2019 02:26

The uber rich already siphon their money off shore, those of you joking about where the billions are coming from seem to have a pretty poor grasp of just how much money is being stashed elsewhere. So much in fact that the female journalist who broke the story was murdered

Which journalist was this?

If it was the one I think you are referring to she was looking into corruption and money laundering not legitimate businesses and people banking their money in overseas banks.

I think there are some really dramatic statements being made that don’t hold water.

Alaimo · 22/11/2019 02:27

No. I haven't looked at Labour's tax proposals, but I'm a fairly average earner (£35k-ish) and would be fine to pay a few % more tax.

curlykaren · 22/11/2019 02:33

What, as dramatic as saying people need to leave the coutry if Labour win the election....that's peak drama right there.

JPharm · 22/11/2019 02:50

I think this is another Tory plant thread. So many new posters recently starting negative threads about Corbyn.

Constantbronchitislaryngitis · 22/11/2019 03:16

why?
This country is falling to pieces under tory leadership
The only people who benefit are the very rich
I don’t understand how people can’t see through the lies of the tories
Under labour 95% of us taxes wouldn’t change
Only billionaires and their tax rises would be absolutely minuscule in comparison to what they earn.
This is where money from ‘the magic money tree’ would cone from
5% of the population who really can afford it

DangerClose · 22/11/2019 03:32

My company paid 2.7 million in tax last year but I wouldn't leave if Labour make us pay more. Even if I paid 3.5 million next year, I'd still be rich. Not going to leave my family, friends, home culture, food, etc. just because I might only be quite rich now instead of very rich,.