to ask if you will be (considering) leaving the UK if Labour/Corbyn get into power?

[oliwki]

If so, where will you be going?

Oh, just laughed so hard a little bit of wee came out, conservatives with "fiscally viable policies' hahaha

Nope. However if the Tories get in, Brexit goes ahead and Scotland secedes, I'm definitely thinking of using family connections to get Scottish nationality and moving there.

Nope, I'm voting labour

He wants all my families hard earned money. To give it to lazy buggers who want everything for nothing

The thing I think you could pour billions into the economy. Tax people till the last pip and still the lazy buggers would still be without because the fundamental way things are done are not working more on a practical level.

Pouring billions into the NHS isnt going to make it better.

I can only talk about the NHS because Dp has spent so much time in hospital over the last few years (we have had to pay for any operations and actual treatment that didn’t involve him being attached to a bag of saline solution or antibiotics as he was deemed not worth saving)

We have questioned nurses and doctors on just little things that they do which seems nonsensical but most of the time we get the answer of that is what they do. That is how it has always been done.

It is just little things that must add up over every day over every hospital.

Tackle those things first then see how much money is needed later.

There isn’t any joined up thought processes.

Everyone has their job to do but no one seems to be able to think about how their job fits into the process.

@Beveren any chance you are single? Can we marry and flee together. Personally, I prefer the company of people who aren't morally bankrupt.

Why would you leave the country over a temporary situation? It's a bit of an overreaction! I would only consider leaving over Brexit as its irreversible.

Why would you leave the country over a temporary situation

Because I have lived through this type of thing before and life is too short to do it again.

Fr0thAndBubble, if you think the Conservatives are prepared to be "incredibly generous" in terms of public services how do you account for the fact that they've managed to resist the temptation to be generous when they've had every opportunity to do that over the past nine years?

This is the party which unlawfully brought us bedroom tax for the disabled, this is the party which the Select Committee found had been "serenely presiding over chaos" in the SEN system for years, this is the party which took away bursaries for nurses, this is the party which couldn't be bothered to do anything about building regulations to prevent the use of unsafe cladding on buildings even when the problems were carefully spelt out for them - and that is only the tip of the iceberg. Just read "Stories of the Law and How it's Broken" and tell us how you think that demonstrates any commitment to the justice system, one of the cornerstones of public services.

@Oliversmumsarmy at the end of the Thatcher/Major years a non-emergency MRI (so anything apart from admissions via A&E) took 9 months for scan and further 3 months for appointment with consultant. At the end of Blair/Brown the whole process was 6 to 8 weeks. Don't insult people who have had their health wrecked but Tory under investment, by pretending investment doesn't make a difference to services.

See Tory stooges at it again. Must think we zip up the back.

Yes, we'll leave on December 13th, we paid 1.3 million in tax last year. We have assets and investments that are worth about £11 million. All U.K. based, no offshore stuff. We've invested in many start up companies and are committed to funding young entrepreneurs. We also invest in local community enterprises.
I've read John McDonell's Momentum proposals and yes if Corbyn is elected my flight is booked.

Oliversmumsarmy but If your family has complex medical needs, where would you go that you’d get this better than you do now (or for free)? Honestly this is a genuine question. I’d be very interested what current nhs do that’s nonsensical? Is it all the paperwork they have to fill in or is it their actual medical techniques that’s wrong? Just wondered as my daughter was in hospital this year and I couldn’t get over the tiny ratio of nurse to patients there was and worried how anyone remains with such stressful working conditions.

Once I've stopped crying we will consider it. I can't face a nationalised country with anyone who has grafted being taxed to fund the shirkers. I'm all for helping those who can't help themselves but not those who won't help themselveS

Well I’m not a stooge, just an ordinary women concerned about the fact Labour make it clear in their manifesto that a woman is anyone who identifies as one making all single sex spaces or policies designed to empower and support woman completely redundant

And I am utterly appalled at the racism in the Labour Party, so I certainly won’t be celebrating if Labour run the country.

If Corbyn gets in I’m throwing a party! My gosh it would be AMAZINGGGGGGGGG.

If that twat head B face wins then I would seriously consider moving elsewhere. I love this country but the tories are destroying the fabric of our nation, everything we stand for, what so many have given their lives for.

Brexit is killing our businesses in London, austerity is literally killing off the poor, it’s too much to stomach. I won’t live in a land where that is ok.
Get them out.

curlykaren

I think you will find that the reason MRI s took longer to get in 1990 was because they were a relatively new thing and there were much fewer in the country.

I don’t think you can argue it was a political situation

Major was prime minister until 1997, MRIs were common place and I was directly told the lack of machine time was due to underfunding. But fine, go ahead and dismiss my first hand experience to suit your own narrative.

Oliversmumsarmy but If your family has complex medical needs, where would you go that you’d get this better than you do now (or for free

We pay.

We have to pay. Outside of giving birth we have had to pay to get treated for everything.

Dp has cancer
It is a type of cancer that if caught early leads to a full recovery.

He went to see the doctors over and over.

His dad died of this type of cancer and he asked if it could be that.

He finally ended up being diagnosed as terminal on a trolley in A&E when he had got so ill he could barely stand.

They then decided he would be an ideal candidate for a particular operation but as it would only buy him 2-4 more years they wouldn’t give it him.

We paid nearly £80,000 for him to have the operation privately.

I put my back out whilst I was pregnant.

I couldn’t lift one foot without major pain and for 7 years I did all the nhs physio and consultants and had my zimmerframe and 2 children under 2 at one point.
Was told I needed a new hip.
Eventually I went private and was diagnosed with a slipped disc within 15 minutes. Not one person had looked at my back and they refused me an MRI (which I had done privately) as it cost too much.

The NHS though isn’t free and people need to get their mind round that

curlykaren

You said at the end of the Thatcher/Major years which I read as being 1989/1990

Other wise you would have said at the end of the Major years

I have no immediate plans to leave, but as a Jewish person whose family have had to flee their homes repeatedly, the possibly of needing to leave at short notice is always in a small compartment at the back of my mind. Inherited trauma, maybe - my maternal grandmother came to England on the kindertransport at the age of 11, never seeing her parents again, while my dad's side of the family came here from Russia in the late 1800s, fleeing pogroms.

Do I think British Jews would be in physical danger under a Corbyn government? No. But he has already brought so many antisemites out of the woodwork, and I don't want my children growing up in a society which delegitimises them and teaches them to hide their identity.

Oliversmumsarmy that’s awful, I hope your husband is better now?
My dad had a very similar thing with his back, the gp did send him for an mri but they x rayed the wrong section, he had to go privately to find out he needed a new hip. He was told the wait would be about a year so he went privately. This is all very recently though.

Yes, we'll leave on December 13th, we paid 1.3 million in tax last year.

See ya!

@Halleli

Silent sympathy and I hope that you and your children's lives never repeat your maternal and paternal experiences

No way would we leave because of who wins the election, however, if the economy tanks in the next couple of years then our jobs will become insecure. We already get job enquiries from overseas that we reject because we like living in the UK. There will be a tipping point though where we go, yeah, fuck it, Copenhagen, Oslo, Singapore could be brilliant for 3-5 years, let's do it.

I hope and pray that Labour get in. Our only hope.