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to ask if you will be (considering) leaving the UK if Labour/Corbyn get into power?

709 replies

oliwki · 21/11/2019 18:27

If so, where will you be going?

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Oliversmumsarmy · 21/11/2019 22:26

Because rich people and companies will pay more tax

If you believe that you will believe anything

Auberjean · 21/11/2019 22:26

Fascinating that redistribution of taxes in income is seen as taking your money for "lazy buggers". Bollocks, obviously.

Alsohuman · 21/11/2019 22:27

Then bugger off to somewhere that suits your superior intellect @Justanotherlurker.

curlykaren · 21/11/2019 22:27

So Oliwki, just joined Mumsnet to make a thread about this have you? Transparently scaremongering.

WorldEndingFire · 21/11/2019 22:31

Have you read the manifesto for yourself? It's excellent!

...and about the only thing that will keep me in the country!

Pieceofpurplesky · 21/11/2019 22:31

@JeffreeStar I work bloody hard. Really bloody hard. I am not lazy at all. But unlike you I don't have much money.

You must earn over £80k if his policies will impact on you.

I hate the concept that only the rich work hard.

Janus · 21/11/2019 22:31

JeffreeStar Fuck me, hope life always goes your way and, you know, you don’t get ill, lose your job, need the state to look after you.
We are top band for tax, no we won’t leave, believe in giving back to provide for nhs, education, care for those less fortunate.

WorldEndingFire · 21/11/2019 22:31

Read and decide for yourselves: labour.org.uk/manifesto/

matingmantas · 21/11/2019 22:32

I'm a high earner and have lived in several countries. I get so frustrated with the narrative here that the choice is between high taxes and big state and US type healthcare and services. Almost every other developed country in the world manages some balance between the two extremes. I'm more than happy to pay taxes for good services but see no evidence that throwing money at inefficient state monopolies leads to better outcomes.

Justanotherlurker · 21/11/2019 22:32

Then bugger off to somewhere that suits your superior intellect @Justanotherlurker.

Just the type of response I expected to be honest. I commend your critical thinking skills and ability to address my argument.

JeffreeStar · 21/11/2019 22:33

@Auberjean it’s not bollocks though it’s the scary truth, Corbyn is dangerous. Vile little man cannot stand him.

longtimelurkerhelen · 21/11/2019 22:34

He wants all my families hard earned money

No he doesn’t, just a little of it if you earn over £80,000.

To give it to lazy buggers who want everything for nothing

People want to be able to pay their rent and feed themselves on a fair wage. They want a small degree of comfort and not to have to worry how they will feed their kids, or worry about the washing machine/cooker/fridge packing up because there is no way they can replace them.

Why should the government pay tax credits so huge companies can pay poverty wages?

JellyfishAndShells · 21/11/2019 22:34

No -I won’t leave, but I’ll be very depressed at the thought of the destruction of the economy and the imposition of hard left policies that are guaranteed to make life worse for everyone .

JeffreeStar · 21/11/2019 22:34

@Janus you’ve no idea what I do, who I support etc,

Willowcat77 · 21/11/2019 22:35

@curlykaren Yeah there have been quite a few highly suspect new posters starting inflammatory anti Labour threads since the election campaign started . The Tories employ people to infiltrate social media sites, posing as real members.

Justanotherlurker · 21/11/2019 22:35

Read and decide for yourselves:

Yeah, some of us have already done so, it's laughable in places, not costed in others and thats before we get into how most manifestos vanish once they come into power and real world politics take place.

Good contribution though, your personal insight has been valuable.

babydog · 21/11/2019 22:37

I hate the concept that only the rich work hard

yep! if wealth was related to how hard you worked, then rural African women would be the richest in the world

Solihooley · 21/11/2019 22:38

There will always be companies that channel offshore, no one is under any illusion that will change. What will change is that companies that trade here will have to pay levels of ‘unavoidable tax’ (the taxes they can’t channel offshore) similar to what they paid in 2010. Hardly radical. They’ve simply been given and extra bonus for the past 9 years. It’s increasingly hard for individuals to avoid tax. George Osborne did quite a good job of cracking down on that and apparently caused a ‘massive exodus’ of wealth when he changed the laws, and yet they’re still here. We have more billionaires, not less. They can’t all move to Monaco can they?

longtimelurkerhelen · 21/11/2019 22:38

@Justanotherlurker Please enlighten us then. All you are saying is critical thinking, but not actually putting forward any rebuttal.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 21/11/2019 22:40

Leave? I've only just got back Wink
I would rather have Corbyn than Bojo any day of the week.
As a bremoaner I guess I should vote LibDem but my local labour MP is a lovely bloke with an autistic child - he never mentions that - but it does mean that as my MP I know he would automatically 'get it' if I needed him to advocate.
I am a centrist and humanist so I don't like Far anything. I would actually love Tom Watson to be PM. But yes, I will probably be voting for Labour with no regrets at all thanks.

Janus · 21/11/2019 22:42

JeffreeStar No I don’t, but you assuming that your hard earned money just goes ‘to lazy buggers who want everything for nothing‘ is offensive and horrible. It goes to provide a roof over peoples head (often not a very nice roof), who may have children to feed, who may be ill, may be looking after someone. I don’t know how you can call those in need ‘lazy buggers’.

KnowBetterDoBetter · 21/11/2019 22:47

Please LOOK at the Conservative manifesto and see what they are offering for public services - it is incredibly generous and they are able to offer what they are offering because they have fiscally viable policies. High taxpayers are willing to pay for it because it’s fair. They will leave if it isn’t and making people pay more than half their salary in tax is NOT FAIR.

You mean this one?

www.thetorymanifesto.com

curlykaren · 21/11/2019 22:48

@Willowcat77 I think the OP fled after two whole posts. Clearly the thread didn't go the way that s/he it/they imagined. I don't understand why, if the Tories are so credible, they need to use these tactics. I'm cringing for them, it's an embarrassment to the nation that the government acts like this.

mollymandyandypandy · 21/11/2019 22:53

I do think we would seriously think about leaving if this Labour party got into power. We have options of elsewhere in europe or further afield. I feel we have always paid our tax, done the right thing however are expected to pay more and more, there is a limit.

I am frustrated with the way both parties seems to be just talking about throwing money at the issues facing this country. It feels so very basic, very short term and not thought through. I don't believe spending more = better.

maddy68 · 21/11/2019 22:54

I'm already in the process of leaving if the Tories get in again