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Vegetarians shouldn't have to buy meat?

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Whuut · 20/11/2019 20:39

So a relative of mine is getting married next year and her and her partner went vegetarian a few years ago for many reasons, one being they didn't want to contribute to the meat industry. They have decided at the wedding to have the meal completely vegetarian. I think this is fine and for one meal people can deal without meat- I do get that some people struggle without it but I think for the sake of one meal at someone else's wedding, you'd just deal with it. What I think is harsh, a few other family members are constantly telling her they should have a meat option and making her feel bad about their decision.

Aibu to think they shouldn't have to have meat at their wedding when one of the main reasons they gave it up was to do with not wanting to contribute to the industry?

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Teateaandmoretea · 21/11/2019 07:49

I think it's up to the bride and groom but people can make their decision about whether to attend.

It wouldn't bother me personally or DH my kids would be a nightmare though dependent on what it was and I'd probably have to take a sandwich for them, they would be a lot more likely to eat a meat option. All this 'eating dead animals' oh get lost human beings are omnivores.

Quite simply it costs people a lot of money to go to a wedding - outfits, present, hotel etc. Therefore a good host will surely think of them alongside the 'me me me it's all about me me me because it's my wedding' mentality.

FamilyOfAliens · 21/11/2019 07:51

I just meant I know a person who can’t sit next to others when they are consuming meat. Most people are relatively more relaxed than that.

Actually I couldn’t bear to sit next to someone who was eating something that had to be chewed off the bone like ribs, or the body cracked open with a metal implement, like lobster.

I don’t think that makes me radical.

Teateaandmoretea · 21/11/2019 07:52

I have issues with cottage cheese Envy

iklboo · 21/11/2019 07:53

DH's cousin and his wife are vegetarian and they had a vegetarian wedding meal. Absolutely hands down one of the best we've had and we're meat eaters. Surely you can go without it for ONE MEAL?

sanityisamyth · 21/11/2019 07:53

@BertrandRussell try being allergic to tomatoes and finding that hasn't got tomatoes in it. It's a main staple of most food, even as a paste to thicken foods.

BertrandRussell · 21/11/2019 07:55

@BertrandRussell try being allergic to tomatoes and finding that hasn't got tomatoes in it. It's a main staple of most food, even as a paste to thicken foods.“
What’s that got to do with vegetarian food?

TARSCOUT · 21/11/2019 07:56

I'm not vegetarian but if this was my wedding I would just tell them not to come if having meat meant so much to them.

AlternativePerspective · 21/11/2019 08:00

Personally I don’t see why people even need to be told that it will be a vegetarian wedding. Or an alcohol free one for that matter.

At any wedding there will be people who have allergies for instance, allergies to tomatoes/dairy/shellfish/nuts and the list goes on. There will generallly be someone who is alergic or intolerant to something from every food group

So you ask for allergies/dietary requirements and then once you’ve catered for those the rest get what they’re given.

I’m not a vegetarian by any stretch of the imagination. And if I’m honest I would struggle to find a vegetarian main as I have some textural issues wrt food. But that doesn’t mean that I think I should be able to demand meat. A nice tomato soup for starter for instance, followed by something veggie which I might not have considered and then the possibilities for vegetarian desserts are endless. In fact most desserts are veggie assuming they don’t contain such items as gelatine.

As for people thinking they should be told in advance that it’s an alcohol free wedding. Why? If people really think that they are unable to go to one social event without being able to drink that surely says a lot more about their reliance on alcohol than it does about the couple wanting an alcohol free wedding.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 21/11/2019 08:00

just meant I know a person who can’t sit next to others when they are consuming meat

Ive lost count of the number of people who have asked if its ok if they eat meat in front of me...or complained that now they can’t eat meat in front of me because i dont eat meat

I mean i guess it’s considerate...but ive known these people for many many years

(Disclaimer...used to be vegetarian but am now a guilty feeling pescatarian)

SandyY2K · 21/11/2019 08:02

HOWEVER. For me, this is yet another example where meat eaters are expected to cater for vegetarians but the courtesy is barely ever returned.

I agree with you on this point.

Pp who have said they would bring their own alcohol to an alcoholic free wedding, I personally find it wrong.

Those who don't have alcohol, usually don't want it consumed at their wedding. Are ppl saying they can't celebrate a wedding without alcohol then? It's not an essential need for anybody.

How would it be viewed if meat eaters decided to bring their own meal containing meat.

My guests enjoying the day is important to me, but I realise many couples these days don't necessarily have the same view. So if it sits comfortably with them, they should go ahead.

If majority of my guests wouldn't like something, I wouldn't do it, because it wouldn't make me feel happy.

dottiedodah · 21/11/2019 08:04

Cant believe how many veggies dont like mushrooms. Also My Friend (veggie) not keen either!

BertrandRussell · 21/11/2019 08:05

“ HOWEVER. For me, this is yet another example where meat eaters are expected to cater for vegetarians but the courtesy is barely ever returned“
If you can genuinely say that you have religious, ethical or health reasons for eating meat at every meal then you would have a point.

MIdgebabe · 21/11/2019 08:05

Mushroom stroganoff,,coconut cream based curry, roasted pepper quiche, wow I already got 3veggie dinners with no tomatoes . Assuming you must have meat because of a tomato allergy is interesting.

And omnivore means eats every/ any thing. It doesn't mean you must eat every possible thing or even every possible food category at every meal, it certainly doesn't mean you must eat meat at every meal

As an omnivore myself , this is an interesting thread!

Paulolina · 21/11/2019 08:06

Weddings are for beer who needs food anyway

BertrandRussell · 21/11/2019 08:09

And someone down thread said that you couldn’t have a sugary, chocolatey pudding. Since when has chocolate had meat in it?

PurpleDaisies · 21/11/2019 08:09

HOWEVER. For me, this is yet another example where meat eaters are expected to cater for vegetarians but the courtesy is barely ever returned.

Didn’t they give you anything to eat? If they did, they catered for you.

I’m vegan and have been given all sorts of meals that really wouldn’t be my preference. When you’re at a wedding, you don’t get to choose exactly what you eat, meat eater or not.

PurpleDaisies · 21/11/2019 08:11

Tomato allergy is a pain in the arse. Many, many standard vegetarian options contain tomatoes.

My best friend has an onion allergy. That’s a tricky one too.

BertrandRussell · 21/11/2019 08:13

I think you might find tomatoes and onions in many meat dishes too......

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 21/11/2019 08:14

purple

Onions used to give my mum migranes

And she used to love a cheese and onion sandwich

chocolatemademefat · 21/11/2019 08:15

I’d love to go out and be given a vegetarian meal. I try to cut out meat but can’t find vegetarian recipes I really like so any guidance is great. I’d be so delighted with a wedding invitation I wouldn’t care what was on the menu.

PurpleDaisies · 21/11/2019 08:16

I think you might find tomatoes and onions in many meat dishes too......

Well, yes but when you’re a veggie/vegan eating out, there’s often only only one option available and most of the time contains tomatoes.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 21/11/2019 08:19

I think people are missing the point. It's not that meat-eaters cannot survive one meal without meat. It's not that people cannot go to one dinner without alcohol... they can. But a wedding is a celebration and a party, and be honest, for most people a party without meat and/or alcohol is... well... disappointing. I can eat vegetarian food, but I am always left feeling "unfulfilled" and hungry in the end, not because of not having enough food available, but because with a veggie dish i never really feel like eating too much of it, for me it feels like it is lacking something (meat?). Of course I would never tell the bride and groom this, but they need to acept this is exactly how many of the guests are going to feel. And plenty will go home and feel the need to have another dinner.

The examples given of how carnivores often have a bowl of cereal or beans of toast are also beyond the point, as most people do not expect these dishes at a wedding.

I think this puts it very well indeed. It's your wedding and entirely your decision, but it's also a celebration where people expect things to be special. It's all because of you but it's not exclusively all about you - it's an event for all of your friends and family.

We don't drink alcohol - just don't see the point of it, but we ensured there was wine and champagne available, as we know that most people enjoy it, consider it as very important and would hope/expect it at a wedding. Yes, they could have managed a day without alcohol, but a wedding isn't about managing - it's a time of pushing the boat out; and, as well as the people getting married, we were also the hosts.

You might as well say why do you have to wear an amazing dress and get your hair and makeup all planned and done perfectly - the getting married is the actual part of the wedding and you have plenty of occasions when you can wear fancy clothes and get your hair done beautifully - surely you could go just one day in your jeans, as you freely do this out of choice most evenings and weekends anyway?

You could be very focused on health and have a standing desk at work and therefore consider it just normal, so you might decide to have a 'healthy' wedding and do away with chairs for all except the disabled and very elderly. Surely you can just stand for a few hours, can't you? Yes, they can - but most would far prefer not to.

For most meat eaters, they don't need meat all the time, but it is a standard part of a really special meal. A proper celebratory meal without meat for them would probably be the equivalent of a bowl of macaroni cheese for you - perfectly adequate, but nothing special or befitting of an important occasion. You wouldn't eat meat 'just for one day' at your own or anybody else's wedding, so don't expect them to be thrilled at not being able to eat meat for one very special meal.

I don't think you'll ever find any common ground as, whereas vegetarians tend to see meat as a cruel, wholly unnecessary addition/alternative to a perfectly amazing meal, most meat eaters will see a meal without it as not a proper full meal. Yes, a meal that will satisfy one's basic hunger, but not a full main meal. People, whether vegan or omnivore, will have a bowl of cornflakes for the functional energy and sustenance rather than as any kind of special celebration or something to get excited about.

So yes, absolutely, have things exactly as you want them - as long as you realise that some people will be disappointed and don't expect them to be as thrilled about things as you are. For them, it will be a negative part of what is, overall, doubtless an otherwise very enjoyable day.

KatherineJaneway · 21/11/2019 08:19

I had a vegetarian wedding. Most people were fine but a small minority were not. One cousin kicked up such a fuss at his table that the chef came out and offered to make him something with meat in it (he said no and then sat there with a face like a wet weekend for the rest of the meal). Another few were still bringing it up to moan about it YEARS later.

This is the risk the couple take. If you have a relative or relatives who are heavy meat eaters they might be the type to say loudly 'what's this muck' or similar while pushing their food around the plate. Very rude to do so but I've seen it.

BertrandRussell · 21/11/2019 08:22

“ most meat eaters will see a meal without it as not a proper full meal. Yes, a meal that will satisfy one's basic hunger, but not a full main meal.”
Well, the ignorant ones will......

MeadowHay · 21/11/2019 08:24

Of course they're not being unreasonable. Moaning family are. We had meat at our wedding because DH wasn't veggie at the time. If we had got married now we are both veggie there certainly wouldn't be meet. We did have alcohol at our wedding as the bar was open however our drinks package was entirely nonalcoholic drinks because my parents were paying and they are teetotal for religious reasons. Therefore was not going to ask them to pay for alcohol. Also probably about a third of our guests were teetotal anyway for various reasons. We did have a few snide comments from some of my family and DH's family about that but I couldn't have cared less. And it didn't spoil the day at all. I would probs be frank with people tbh that if they can't be nice then they are not to come!

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