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To want Primark to provide a women only changing room?

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Amelia1985x · 16/11/2019 15:22

I’m a regular Primark customer and was surprised to go the store yesterday and find all the changing rooms had been redesignated as mixed sex. The shop assistant told me not to worry, because most customers on the ladies’ floor were women, and anyway, she could see down the line of curtained cubicles and would challenge a “dodgy man”. When I questioned her about how she would spot one, she called the Manager as he could explain the policy better.

He told me the world was changing. I asked him why Primark had had sex segregated changing rooms in the first place. No answer. I asked him what specific legislative change or scientific discovery had occurred that made the world different to this time last year. No answer. He said that this arrangement was more inclusive for nonbinary people.

I explained that I didn’t feel that comfortable stripping to my knickers in a mixed area, and he told me I could always use the one disabled cubicle which has a lockable door. Clearly this has been designed for mixed sex use and did have a lock, but obviously I would then be blocking its use for a disabled person. He suggested there was no reason to be concerned. Yet when I think about me and my women friends, all our me-too moments, - of being flashed at, or masturbated at, sexual assaults and rapes – all have been my men.

The manager was unabashed. He said Primark had done research – even though he couldn’t produce it, and there were no leaflets or posters to explain this HUGE policy change to customers. He told me I was the only person who had ever complained.

So I guess this is what I want to know. Am I a dinosaur? Am I being unreasonable to want a women only changing room?

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peanutbutterkid · 16/11/2019 15:25

I know a lot of blokes would hate this. They would be quite scared of you seeing them in pants.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/11/2019 15:28

Research my arse. Paying a lobby group to tell you One Thing - The Same Bloody Thing isn’t ‘doing research’.

Sounds like the manager was telling porkies.

reginafelangee · 16/11/2019 15:28

Its separate cubicles so I wouldn't have a problem with it.

SpiderCharlotte · 16/11/2019 15:28

No YANBU at all. DD refused to try anything on recently in Primark and we left because her previous experience of this was of a couple of teenage boys pulling her cubicle curtain back. Fortunately she was fully dressed at the time. She didn't tell me about it at the time.

YourOpinionIsNoted · 16/11/2019 15:29

You are not unreasonable at all. However, at least Primark are honest about it. M&S, Next and John Lewis all have a "choose wherever you feel comfortable" policy with respect to their changing rooms, rendering them mixed sex, but they aren't labelling them as such.

It is an appalling assault on the rights, safety and dignity of women and girls.

TheReluctantCountess · 16/11/2019 15:30

Yanbu. I believe M&S have done the same.

SpiderCharlotte · 16/11/2019 15:30

I think they should have three changing rooms - men, women, whatever floats your boat.

breakfastpizza · 16/11/2019 15:32

YANBU. We know the stats of male-on-female assaults. This is the big retailers (Primark, M&S) telling women they don't give a shit.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/11/2019 15:32

And as for ‘the world was changing’ that the hell does that even mean? Has another asked the idiot who trots out this?

Has human biology taken a weird turn in the last ten years that undoes all of it’s marvels that I am not aware of? Has Mother Nature changes teams?

MogHog · 16/11/2019 15:33

I don't have a problem with mixed changing room when the cubicles have lockable doors

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/11/2019 15:34

We didn’t have them before so why now? Who is asking for them? Why the change?

Why aren’t her breaking their little rainbow necks to provide decent, accessible changing facilities for the disabled or those with disabled kids? Hmmmmm?

chubley · 16/11/2019 15:35

They should do away with curtained cubicles and install lockable doors, with full height walls between each cubicle.

Wattagoose90 · 16/11/2019 15:37

I think you directed your question to the wrong person, the decision would've been made at a much higher level and the manager/staff will have little to no say in the matter.

I don't think YANBU though. Generally I purchase items and take them back if needed after trying at home now (not directly related to this issue, it's just my preference).

Agree with the previous poster re mens, womens, mixed - use your preference

NeedAnExpert · 16/11/2019 15:38

I don't have a problem with mixed changing room when the cubicles have lockable doors

You must not have encountered the guy who brags on Twitter about how much he loves trying on lady’s knickers in an unlocked cubicle so that he could get caught by an actual lady. Gets him quite excited by all accounts. And then he hides the (now wet/sticky) knickers back in the middle of the rack for some other lucky lady to buy.

🤮

tillytrotter1 · 16/11/2019 15:40

Only if they also provide men only changing rooms otherwise it's very discrimonatory.

Bellatrix14 · 16/11/2019 15:42

If they all had properly lockable cubicle doors (not the magnet ones that some places have) then I can’t say it would bother me, but as it only has curtains then I don’t think you are being unreasonable at all, no.

Muminabun · 16/11/2019 15:43

These policies have been creeping in for some time. I never use changing rooms anymore and just return if it doesn’t fit. I won’t let my daughter in a changing room or a toilet on her own as everywhere is mixed sex. I am sort of hoping that this current madness will eventually fizzle out and I sort of see it as a backlash against safeguarding.

Campervan69 · 16/11/2019 15:43

YANBU I never try stuff on in stores any more because of all this. I shop online, get stuff delivered then send back what doesn't fit. Means I never go to actual shops anymore. You can try it on in the comfort and privacy of your own bedroom and it's so easy to return stuff. Usually cheaper online as well.

MoaningMinniee · 16/11/2019 15:48

I had enough trouble getting dd2 into a cubicle to try on a bra in a single sex changing area with curtains rather than lockable doors, I can't imagine I'd have managed to persuade her into a mixed zone.

I don't have a problem with individual changing cubicles all being accessed off the same corridor, as long as they have floor to ceiling dividers and can be locked from within, and have enough space inside for me and my friend who I'm shopping with whose opinion I want to hear, full length mirror and enough room to stand back and see properly, a seat for changing items that aren't easily done standing up. This of course will take up loads of space. If I was happy that no men would be out there I would be fine with a curtain and big mirrors and space for my friend in the central corridor. I don't mind other women seeing my underwear.

LonginesPrime · 16/11/2019 15:48

I think they should have three changing rooms - men, women, whatever floats your boat.

Why bother with all the expense and hassle of a third space when there's a perfectly good women's space that can be used?

It's so much more cost-effective for business-owners to use the women's space than for them to examine the wants and needs of their customer base and strive for a truly inclusive solution.

It's so easy - you just call anyone who objects a bigot and shame them for having 'outdated' views. Job done!

MeClavdivs · 16/11/2019 15:49

He suggested there was no reason to be concerned.

Hahaha everyone's a comedian these days Grin

MoaningMinniee · 16/11/2019 15:49

@NeedAnExpert just saw your post. That's utterly utterly grim!

Uncompromisingwoman · 16/11/2019 15:53

In today's DM - this man managed to film a young woman in her underwear in a changing room. Sadly he is one of many who these stores are inviting in to mixed sex changing rooms:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6796451/Surrey-father-two-jailed-posting-46-upskirt-videos-London-Underground-adult-website.html

Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2019 15:53

You need to write to head office to voice your concerns, it might not make a difference but if enough women make a noise about this it may make them reconsider.

finnmcool · 16/11/2019 15:54

Miss Selfridge, New Look, Topshop, Primark, Marks, John Lewis, Dorothy Perkins and Next all now allow self identifying males into their female changing rooms or have gone gender neutral.

Most gyms have this policy in their changing rooms too.

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