How dare they?

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www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/nov/16/a-letter-to-our-neighbours-with-a-baby

The above is in today’s Guardian. Thoughts?
I think the author and his partner have shown remarkable restraint and been far too polite.

I have some sympathy with the author, although the letter is - as usual with this series - edited to make them sound incredibly pompous.

Babies crying is a fact of life, but some parents could be more considerate of their neighbours. I’m thinking of a former neighbour of mine who decided to set the nursery up so the cot was on the party wall rather than the other side of the room for no reason other than personal choice. I only had a 1 bedroom flat and the only way to fit a double bed in was to put it against the party wall (which they knew), so effectively the baby was screaming 6 inches away from my head. Which was fun when they decided to use the cry it out method...

the thing about a screaming baby is that you know that the parents want it to stop as much as you do. This is not the case for loud music, shouting matches, pointless barking dogs and so on.

not fun but be grateful, it will get older and they are trying their best.

I read this article this morning and thought the author sounded like a total knob! How passive aggressive do you need to be to not say anything to your neighbours and write an anonymous letter to an online paper instead?!

As many have pointed out, they probably keep the baby in their room because that is the guidelines for reducing sids risk. Not everyone will have the option to move to another bedroom that will big enough for them and the baby. Plus, if they don't talk to each other, they probably don't know their room borders the authors bedroom?!

At the end of the day, babies cry. Some people buy houses to find out their neighbours have loud parties all the time, or are drug dealers or have 3 dogs that don't stop barking.... It could be worse!

If there's a problem, neighbours need to talk about and see if a resolution can be found

instead of writing an anonymous letter to a national newspaper which in all probability the neighbour's will never read, why not have a civilised word with them about how their baby is disturbing you.....Or they will have no idea ....

Sorry! There was me thinking I was posting on Mumsnet where a huge proportion of posters won't even answer the fucking door, and the thought of actually SPEAKING to somebody is abhorrent.

A) fuck off
B) buy some earplugs
C) moved themselves to a different bedroom

^^. This

What an entitled arrogant arse the letter-writer is!

We were all babies and we all disturbed other people when we were little. In a society we should have tolerance and compassion for our neighbours. Our babies no doubt disturbed our neighbours, and their babies disturbed us. You take it on the chin, it's part of living among other people.

This reminds me of a story my Nan told me ,about a friend who had a baby which cried a lot .This was going back to the 1930s when many people lived in a couple of rooms .Their neighbour came to complain and asked if they could stop babe making a noise ."No replied Friend ,but you are welcome to try if you want!"

“You chose to keep them in your bedroom”

That’s where they’re fucking meant to be.

That’s where they’re fucking meant to be.
not when they are screaming at 3 am it's not - not when your bedroom is next to someone else's bedroom!

My blood boiled reading that letter. FFS how the hell is one supposed to address something they dont even know is an issue? Say something or buy yourself a detached house in the forest where you have no neighbours. As callous as it may sound life doesn't stop because your sleep was disturbed by a baby. I wish I was his neighbour, I wish he would tell me to keep my baby quiet, I'd tell him where to get off. TWAT

A) fuck off
B) buy some earplugs
C) moved themselves to a different bedroom

This a million times over. Only one more thing to add
FUCK OFF

WHY do you think your wish to have a baby should come over people's right to a quiet life?

I sincerely hope the neighbours being disturbed won't hesitate to have loud parties, do DIY during nap time and just enjoy a "normal life" . After all, life doesn't stop because your neighbour has a baby or young child...

It works both ways, the rude neighbours just have been too lucky to have people too considerate and polite.

What a wanker.

Lol sandra even if my next door neigbour was the queen there would be no chance id further unsettle my baby by going downstairs just in case next door got woke up.

Why do people loathe children so much in this country?

Contrary to popular belief we do not have a child worshipping culture in this country, I would argue the opposite given the cuts to education, early years and anything to do with children's development, not to mention all the "no children" spaces and comments everyone has to make should a child care to do more than breathe outside their own home.

What a self absorbed man!
My husband snores like a pig and my 10 year old is on oxygen.
That oxygen compressor makes the most hideous and loud noise.
I wear ear plugs ( have to have my son in my room still because of his epilepsy) and I have a vibrating alarm under my pillow which detects sounds from his bed or abnormal movements.
I buy these wonder and cheap silicone earplugs from amazon, that are so comfy.
They could just buy earplugs if they are losing sleep surely ?
Not just the uncomfortable foam type available now.
He was a baby once.
Does he think he never made a sound ?

I don’t think we necessarily have a child worshiping culture other than by parents of kids. I feel sorry for both parties. It must be awful for the people without the kids having to listen to someone else’s baby kicking off but I’m sure the parents aren’t enjoying it much either.

I’ve just finished setting up my nursery and I did think about my adjoining neighbours and where I placed the cot etc. although there’s only a certain amount you can do. I’m lucky though that my neighbours have their main bedroom now in the loft and the room next to baby’s room is their son’s room who has gone off to university (although I’m sure he’ll bear the brunt of the noise over the Christmas holidays). I won’t feel too bad though, because we have to put up with the screaming, foot stomping, door slamming and tantrum throwing from their 17 year old daughter, it literally shakes our house she’s that loud!

WTF is this article. If you choose to live in a flat then you are going to be disturbed by noise. The writer says he can hear them talking so they obviously have thin walls.
We had to move areas so that we could afford a detached house as we hated the noise from our neighbours parties. Our problem, not there’s.

Why do people loathe children so much in this country?

Being considerate of others and not believing the entire world revolves around you once you have a baby does not mean anyone loathe children.

If nothing else, your little darling's noise will also disturb other children who are just as entitled as peace and quiet.

When you chose to live in a community surrounded by other people, you accept to follow certain rules and show some consideration. Otherwise move to the middle of nowhere where you can make as much noise as you want without disturbing others. It's on you, not on the poor sods who have to put up with rude and selfish neighbours.

When you chose to live in a community surrounded by other people, you accept to follow certain rules and show some consideration

What like the consideration the author of the letter showed? Oh wait! He didnt.

I think the only people here thinking the world revolves around them are the selfish gits who expect total silence and yet choose to live in houses or flats with adjoining neighbours.

Even with the best will in the world you cannot immediately stop babies crying and you cannot prevent it entirely. What would you like people to do?

If you want silence go live in the arse end of nowhere, all by yourself.

I would much rather live next door to a young family than some miserable twat who doesnt remember that he or she was once a child too.

Just play heavy metal at full volume at 7am.

It's not like babies are a lifestyle choice.

Actually they are. Nobody has to have a baby.

You never apologised, or even mentioned it. I saw no evidence you ever tried to mitigate the noise for our sake, by moving her to another room, say

Parents were supposed to know instinctively, apparently, as the complainer here never complained so they had NO IDEA!!! Why didn't complainer move to another room if he wasn't prepared to say something?

Idiot

think the only people here thinking the world revolves around them are the selfish gits who expect total silence and yet choose to live in houses or flats with adjoining neighbours.

you have it wrong - it's people who chose to have neighbours who should remember to be quiet. No one is affected by someone being too silent.. noise on the other side...

and again, it goes both ways. YOU keep quiet, and your neighbours do the same so your young children can sleep in peace.

Inconsiderate neighbours are too lucky if the others don't play the same game, which they could.