I honestly don't understand why anyone who cares about anyone other than themselves would vote Tory.

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“if you vote Conservative, you are voting for people to die on the streets”

When I voted Labour back in the day I did not think I was voting for them to invade another sovereign state on the back of dubious evidence killing hundreds of thousands and displacing millions more and leaving a wretched legacy in the middle East that still haunts the international stage today.

@zafferana so public services are not important to you?

What is important to you?

That’s not down to who is in power though but the choices made by the parents of the children. Surely we should be advocating personal responsibility rather than tax payers picking up the cost.

Did you seriously just say this?

55% of homeless families are working.

70% of poor children live in a working family

30% of children in the U.K. live below the poverty line

cpag.org.uk/news-blogs/news-listings/child-poverty-working-families-rise

This is not a parental choice issue. It’s a systemic issue. You think that the massive increase is food bank usage is what, parents not being arsed?

You may want to tell yourself that children are going hungry because parents aren’t taking responsibility, but you’d be wrong.

I’ve voted Conservative before.

I have always voted according to what I think is best for the country as a whole, rather than what benefits me and those I love the most. Sometimes those have been the same; sometimes not.

I care enough about other people to have done thousands of hours of voluntary work, with new and vulnerable immigrants, with those battling poverty, and with isolated or vulnerable senior citizens. I assume that proves I care.

That’s not down to who is in power though but the choices made by the parents of the children. Surely we should be advocating personal responsibility rather than tax payers picking up the cost

Wtaf? For once in my life I’m actually speechless. What part does choice have in redundancy, illness, bereavement - all those things that can decimate ordinary people’s lives? What the hell is the welfare state for?

Sure, but I don't believe every story I read in the press, whichever paper it's in. Everyone has their own POV, their own agenda and The Guardian most definitely has a left wing agenda that implores us all to Vote Labour! If I read The Telegraph it would implore me to vote Conservative. I don't happen to think that Labour would go a good job of anything - IMO they are an utter shower, JC is not fit to govern (members of his own party even say that!), he's a terrorist sympathiser, an anti-Semite and a real loony leftie. I definitely have my priorities, but putting JC and his bonkers cronies in No. 10 aren't among them.

And by the way, whenever I hear people claim that no one intelligent / educated / informed / caring / decent could possibly have voted for x, I usually assume that the person man making the claim lives in a bit of a bubble, associating with people similar to themselves and reading media they agree with.

If the conservatives don’t win it will be labour. I’m neither ignorant nor gullible enough to think that far left socialism is going to be better than austerity. There is genuinely no other option unless you enjoy mass unemployment.

These people don't care who they hurt. They are just vile.

As are the people who vote for them. From blaming every parent for their hungry children to benefit recipients being lazy etc. The vile thinking is never ending, its depressing. YANBU.

I can’t understand anyone who uses a link to the Guardian to try and prove a point!

It is not unreasonable for people to vote in their own financial self-interest, therefore it is completely understandable that people who earn lots of money, own businesses, send their kids to private schools, do not rely on public services and own significant assets vote Tory.

It’s the people who do rely on public services, do use the NHS, do send their kids to state schools yet vote Tory anyway that are so difficult to understand. They vote against their own self-interest, which is crazy.

@ilovetofu I’m not a big fan of any UK print media at the moment to be honest. DM and Guardian are both terrible, just different ends of the spectrum. I find them all far too narrow, you can’t get a balanced view anywhere (and most definitely not with the bbc anymore!)

Yes! @AgeLikeWine exactly!! Turkeys voting for xmas eh?

I’m neither ignorant nor gullible enough to think that far left socialism is going to be better than austerity.

@Lifeover did you read the article?

No sadly I don't think I am being unreasonable either @InsertFunnyUsername

@FriedasCarLoad who will you vote for this time??

I’m neither ignorant nor gullible enough to think that far left socialism is going to be better than austerity.

It would for the poor buggers whose lives have been reduced to a struggle for survival. But they don’t count apparently.

It would for the poor buggers whose lives have been reduced to a struggle for survival. But they don’t count apparently.

I don't believe for a second that's true either.

I agree - shameful tories

@ilovetofu - yes I did thanks. Your point being?

What don’t you think is true @JusticeForSandra?

I don’t see how any sane person could vote for the Corbyn the lunatic. I prefer to vote for a party that has some understanding of basic economics and doesn’t bankrupt the country every time they are in government.

This.

I'm not wild about the Brexit debacle either, but at least the queues for bread will be shorter than those under a Corbyn government.

I’ve voted labour and I’ve voted conservative in the past, but this time I can’t see past Corbyn so not even bothering reading their manifesto. I just don’t trust him to govern our country. He will take us back to the dark days of the looney left. I just cannot understand why any sane or intelligent person would vote for him.

At the end of the day, the Tories are offering nothing to the hundreds of thousands of children growing up in BnBs

Nothing.

They’re offering nothing to those who are working and still need to claim benefits because rents are too high

Nothing.

Nothing to those who need food banks to survive.

Raising the minimum wage is not enough I’m afraid.

Until the Tories have concrete offers to those who are stuck in a poverty cycle, then they’re not the party for me.

I’m not poor. But I grew up in a household that was.

This was under the thatcher and major years.

As a child I could see that they offered fuck all to people like me.

Luckily, and it was luck, I came through and now earn enough to be comfortable.

I want that for everyone.

So fuck the Tories.