I honestly don't understand why anyone who cares about anyone other than themselves would vote Tory.

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Oh God, I hope mobiles get better then for disabled people. I can not physically use one, but I can use a large landline phone.

Bad luck for all the elderly who don't use mobiles!

Why anyone would vote Labour is beyond me. Jeremy Corbyn for PM? Seriously? The country would be on its knees in no time.

Seriously anyone with arthritis or movement issues can seriously struggle to use a mobile. There are lots of landline phones though that are easy to use. Unless mobiles change, I am going to be unable to use a phone in the future which would be a major issue at work.

"Why anyone would vote Labour is beyond me. Jeremy Corbyn for PM? Seriously? The country would be on its knees in no time."

It's pretty much on its knees now. Where have you been since 2016????

It's pretty much on its knees now. Where have you been since 2016????

Did you miss where the economy actually grew over the last year? Or where employment is at its highest levels? Or where the deficit is the lowest for a decade - in fact a surplus? Doesn't sound like an economy "on it's knees".

What about phone calls?

I suspect there’ll be a market for internet based landline type handsets - VOIP didnt work too well in the U.K. because of our shitty infrastructure but that wouldn’t be a problem with full fibre.

I don't think there are plans to scrap landlines, though BT may switch to VOiP. There are a lot of disability-friendly mobile phones available, and you can use things like Echo and Alexa to avoid the need to dial.

Seriously anyone with arthritis or movement issues can seriously struggle to use a mobile.

It would be a hell of a lot cheaper, easier and quicker to develop and manufacture a mobile phone with bigger screen and keys than to roll out wired broadband to every house in the country! You can get a mobile-enabled tablet such as a Ipad which can be used as a phone.

I have never seen any mobile phones that are truly disability friendly without using voice controls. And because I am not English the voice controls never work for my accent.

The country would be on its knees in no time

It’s on its knees now.

I would love for people who say things like this to come and take my place navigating this country’s systems on behalf of my two disabled children. NHS, local authorities, DWP, social care provision, disabled facilities access, public transport, blue badges, fucking EHCPs and education generally...

And we are lucky because we own a house (with a mortgage) and have a small business and don’t have to worry about feeding and clothing them.

120,000 people dead due to health and social care cuts.

Massive increase in homelessness and more then half of homeless families are working.

On its knees? Wake up.

@user Yes I can use an ipad. Although my father who used a disability friendly phone could not use an ipad. An ipad takes more fine motor ability than most non disabled people realise.

I don't think there are plans to scrap landlines, though BT may switch to VOiP.

I think it would be a mistake to scrap landlines. When Storm Desmond hit our city, tens of thousands of people had no electricity, hence no broadband either. People with "old fashioned" landline phones were still able to use them to stay in contact as they didn't need to be plugged into the electricity unlike more modern portable landline phones. There were very long queues of people at the few remaining telephone boxes on our main high street - quite a sight to see! Without electricity, VOIP is limited if it relies on a WIFI/broadband modem (which needs electricity) or a computer or tablet (which needs electricity).

I am sure there will be something, but just irritates me as I am probably going to have to spend a lot of money buying something specialist, when I can just use a cheap large landline phone at the moment. And I will have to persuade my small workplace to meet the additional cost.

It would be a hell of a lot cheaper, easier and quicker to develop and manufacture a mobile phone with bigger screen and keys than to roll out wired broadband to every house in the country! You can get a mobile-enabled tablet such as a Ipad which can be used as a phone.

Ever heard of visual impairments? What about non verbal / barely verbal people with visual impairments?

Did you bother to read the article I linked to earlier about the actual policy and the costs and the benefit to the economy and to society? Of course you didn’t.

Deathgrip - do you seriously think those things would be better under Labour? If the country is on its knees now, it would be flat on its face under Labour.

Yes I absolutely do believe that. Why do you not?

This government have slashed local authority funding so there’s currently a £3bn deficit. What do you think happens to special education when that’s going on?

This is an ideological choice made by this government.

The NHS has been underfunded for a decade. Another ideological choice.

There has been a targeted campaign against disabled people by this government who have chosen to pay over £700m so far to companies (who pay no U.K. tax by the way) to force as many people as possible off disability benefits.

2/3 of people affected by bedroom tax are disabled, something labour pledge to scrap.

Under UC, disability elements of tax credits are reduced. Another thing labour pledge to scrap.

But please, since your posts are so full of information rather than opinion, tell me why you believe (with some evidence) these things would be worse under Labour?

Definitely a mistake to scrap landlines. In the earthquakes, the landlines kept up and going. The cellular network was overloaded, and toppled, within minutes.

What if they think that endeavour deserves reward, whilst indolence doesn't?

Would you want to earn yourself an extra £10,000 then give Mr Corbyn £6,000 for his 'projects' - for example?

The trouble with 'reduced unemployment' is that so many jobs do not provide a living wage, or anywhere near one. People are counted as 'employed' if they are on a zero hours contract and getting maybe four hours of work - and pay - a month.

Also, a great many people are instinctively centre-left - if given a list of policies to choose from without any information as to which party is proposing them, the majority tend to approve of the ones which are broadly social-democratic, because most people are - or at least like to consider themselves - fair. They want a functioning infrastructure and support for those who are ill, disabled etc.
Yes, there are some whose views are based on the fact that they consider themselves (and those they identify as their 'tribe') superior to and more important than others: they deserve their own good fortune and it's all 'survival of the fittest' etc. Or they are particularly motivated by dislike of certain groups (foreign people, the poor, the non-straight) and want these groups to be punished/disadvantaged.

metro.co.uk/2019/11/18/man-drops-dead-job-centre-queue-declared-fit-work-11174319/

Man drops dead in Job Centre queue after being declared fit to work Richard Hartley-ParkinsonMonday 18 Nov 2019 10:21 am

A man collapsed while waiting for an appointment in a job centre in south Wales. The man, 65, was found slumped in his chair at 9.30am on Friday in Llanelli. He was waiting for an appointment to discuss Jobseeker’s Allowance after being declared fit for work earlier this year. Staff and customers rushed to help the man but they were unable to get a response so lay him on the floor. They started CPR and an ambulance was called while the job centre was evacuated, but paramedics declared him dead at the scene. A witness said: ‘I didn’t know him myself, but the man who was sat next to me told me that he had grown up with the guy

‘The man next to me told me that the poor guy had diabetes and had been declared fit for work by the job centre earlier in the year but he was obviously ill. ‘The ambulance came but he sadly died and they had to take his body out of the job centre, it was awful. ‘We were all very shook up, it was a horrible situation that should have never happened. The job centre is all shut down now.’ An ambulance spokesman said: ‘We were called on Friday November 15 at approximately 9.33am to reports of a person needing urgent medical attention on Stepney Street in central Llanelli. ‘We responded with one rapid response vehicle, one specialised medical vehicle and one emergency ambulance.’ A DWP spokesman said: ‘Our thoughts and those of the staff at Llanelli Jobcentre are with the family and friends at this time

Bad luck for all the elderly who don't use mobiles!

Our landline, ie non mobile phone is already via our hub.

I wonder if the people with appointments at the closed Job Centre will be sanctioned? Bet they are.

Deathgrip - do you seriously think those things would be better under Labour? If the country is on its knees now, it would be flat on its face under Labour.

Can you give some actual detail on why you believe this to be the case?

Considering the past records of both parties in government, and their manifestos from recent elections, how on earth could Deathgrip come to any other conclusion? It's quite obvious that her specific concerns are best addressed by Labour. The Tories have created the current situation and don't give a toss about improving it.