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To not want to go to a colleague's home?

160 replies

Xmasspirit · 12/11/2019 07:43

It was recently announced that my team's Christmas party will be a dinner at a junior female colleague's place, where she and other junior female colleagues will cook for the team. The team dynamics is not great and I've had mental health issues on account of bullying and inappropriate sexist remarks at work. I am having panic attacks when thinking about the party and having to go to this person's home. WWYD?

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notacooldad · 12/11/2019 08:55

If you are looking for an excuse it is one to use.
If anyone used that they would be the laughing stock of the office!
It's a private gathering.
I'm sure there's better excuses!

If I needed an excuse I would say I had tickets For a gig ( or thaetre or whatever) and go to that so you are not lying and doing something you enjoy.

Ghostontoast · 12/11/2019 08:55

“It sounds like a lovely evening, sadly I have to decline due to an important family commitment that I must attend.”

APerkyPumpkin · 12/11/2019 08:57

If anyone used that they would be the laughing stock of the office!

The OP is management, you wouldn't declare it in an open office.

It is something to point out in management meetings. If they are paying for this in work time, then they should be looking at this sort of thing as standard. That's what managers do.

daysofpearlyspencer · 12/11/2019 08:57

If they are actually selling the food at this event I think they may actually need a certificate. I run a small group with snacks provided at sessions but just have a pot for donations to avoid this.

Ghostontoast · 12/11/2019 08:58

If anyone asks says it a surprise birthday dinner and you’ve promised not to tell anyone about it!

Xmasspirit · 12/11/2019 08:59

Re hygiene certificate - actually a good point since the company would be responsible if anything happened and the hostess didn't have insurance. This is not a private event. But I definitely don't want to go that way as it may seem petty even by my drama queen standards 😀

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Thatnovembernight · 12/11/2019 09:00

It sounds too complicated (you want to be part of the celebration but you don’t want to go to a bully’s house etc etc). There is only one aspect you are in control of and that’s whether you go or not. If I felt like this then I would go along with the plan and then coincidentally come down with a vomiting night the night before.

CobaltLoafer · 12/11/2019 09:02

Presuming your direct reports are adults, who can choose to make an excuse, they don’t need you there to ‘support’ them.

And if they need support during what is supposed to be a social celebration, I don’t think any of them should go anyway....

Veterinari · 12/11/2019 09:03

it is actually a work event during working hours and the company contributes financially.

Then i’d Suggest that it’s inappropriate for the company to contribute to a specific employee as host. Too much potential for favouritism/misuse of funds. A neutral event would be more professional

EL8888 · 12/11/2019 09:04

This is an odd set up. Why do they have to do it? Surely a restaurant, bar or pub is more appropriate for it?

Xmasspirit · 12/11/2019 09:06

This was actually useful. If a number of colleagues, including myself, need to make excuses while the company is paying for it, then the event is not inclusive enough. I will ask for it to be cancelled.

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churchandstate · 12/11/2019 09:09

If it’s in work time then they are in a better position to insist, unfortunately. Providing they are paying for transport anyway.

busybarbara · 12/11/2019 09:10

I personally wouldn’t go but at the same time I can see how this might make the team dynamics even worse and make you look bad in front of parties. If I were to go, I’d drive so I could leave whenever I liked.

Louise91417 · 12/11/2019 09:12

Why not make it clear you have a prior engagement that night but you obviously dont wish to appear rude when they have made such an effort so you will pop in for an hour...that way you arent fluffing their feathers by not going but dont have to endure being uncomfortable the entire night

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 12/11/2019 09:13

I'm confused as to who decided this and just announced it, if you are more senior than them.

What's more, if you think other people wouldn't enjoy it why is everyone agreeing to it? It sounds like they're going to have the unwanted expense of taxis to attend what is essentially a works outing.

I'm with you, it sounds grim. I wouldn't go. Make any excuse you want, or just decline without one, they won't care. You could send a bottle or crate of wine if you felt so inclined.

Gonetoget · 12/11/2019 09:15

Have you actually reported the bullying. Could you discuss with your mgr and explain you would prefer not to go for those reasons.
Alternatively, how about ‘ poor junior colleague cooking all that food, it’s not fair on her etc. Wouldn’t it be better if we went elsewhere.
not Sure how many people she’s catering for but it does seem like an odd work Xmas do.

ThatsMeInTheSpotlight · 12/11/2019 09:20

If you know your direct reports are unhappy then you can feed back that your team would prefer to do x instead.

I've worked in places where we've had work meals/events/celebrations at colleague's homes. It can be part of the culture in certain sectors. If that's the case for OP then she does need to consider carefully how she objects. Objecting to it in our organisation would have been considered very rude.

PocketDictionary · 12/11/2019 09:22

Christmas party where the company financially contributes makes it a company event. All behaviours should be appropriate. I would suggest to HR that party, alcohol and at someone's home makes a potential perfect storm.

AmIThough · 12/11/2019 09:23

If someone told one of my seniors that this was what we were doing for our team Xmas meal I can guarantee they'd respond with "that's a bit weird. I don't want to go to x's house. The company are paying - we may as well make the most of it"

TargaryenBean · 12/11/2019 09:23

Please don't ask about a hygiene certificate you'll be the laughing stock. Why can't you just say I'm not interested in going to someone's home, you don't feel comfortable. You're not going full stop. I have some colleagues where this would not bother me and others no way would I go to their house. Just say no thank you. If you're senior maybe it's about time you started sticking up for yourself by clearly stating your needs.

Nanny0gg · 12/11/2019 09:23

Is it during the working day or is it in the evening outside of your hours? I'm confused.

If it's the working day then I don't see how you can get out of it

Xmasspirit · 12/11/2019 09:25

We've never done this before and no other team that I know has done this before. In addition to my personal mental health problems, I feel that it only furthers the gender dis-balance in the team, if junior females are expected to cook and senior females are not consulted on team events.

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mindutopia · 12/11/2019 09:26

You either go or you don't go. You don't get to through your toys out of the pram and say it has to be changed or cancelled for everyone - actually that sort of smacks of bullying itself, which would be a same for everyone else do does want to go. If you have made it to a senior level in your work, then you should be better equipped to deal with situations like this involving junior colleagues. If this is a serious situation that is affecting your mental health, then you need to take it through official channels with HR and your supervisor. If it isn't, then you need to get some mental health support for yourself so you can manage a bit better. There is no reason to go through life struggling to handle mundane everyday things when you can feel better.

mindutopia · 12/11/2019 09:27

Fwiw, my office holiday party is at a colleagues house. It's great, much more affordable (key for junior staff) and informal. No weird gender imbalances, no one feels uncomfortable.

Xmasspirit · 12/11/2019 09:29

And I agree that I won't be bringing up hygiene certificate - although a legally valud point it would unnecessarily upset the hostess.

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