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BOYCOTT CADBURYS

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whatpasswordtochoose · 03/11/2019 22:50

Most of us buy too many products containing palm oil. It is difficult to work out what is palm oil free, so, for all of you feeling guilty about buying products made with palm oil I would suggest this simple action plan...
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING MADE BY CADBURYS.
There are so many other chocolate bars that you can buy so it really shouldn't be too painful.

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TheSerenDipitY · 04/11/2019 03:37

i have been since they first put palm oil in years ago, a ton of New Zealanders did, they were forced to return to their pre palm oil recipe, they then shut down their chocolate factory here in NZ, changed the cream egg filling, then size, changed the Easter eggs to half eggs, took the word Easter off the eggs, so now i just dont by anything from them or any of their sister companies under the Mondelez banner ( toblerone, oreos, pillidelphia cheam cheese, ritz crackers, belvita biscuits or sour patch candy... wont make a difference to them that one little kiwi wont buy their products but i cant support them

ferrier · 04/11/2019 03:41

YABU because the main alternative to Cadburys is Nestle and they are worse.

cannycat20 · 04/11/2019 04:21

Just for fun, if you have time, have a look at the ingredients in every bar of chocolate you might think about buying next time you're in the supermarket or corner shop. Or online, if you prefer. Or just do a selection of ten if you're pressed for time; five, even.

You will find that almost every bar of chocolate out there contains palm oil. As well as every cake, every cookie, and other items that might surprise you. Including some companies that might surprise you. (I used to love a Tunnocks wafer, but just have a look at what's in them.) There are a few exceptions - the main ones I've found so far are very "low end" supermarket own, and the very "high end" single plantation brands. I've also learned to beware of "vegetable oil" as an ingredient as that is often used as a cover for palm oil. It was the biscuits and cakes that astonished me - what's wrong with good old fashioned butter, or, if you don't consume animal products, sunflower oil or olive oil? Again, there are a couple of shortbread makers who don't use palm oil, but other than that, just about every cake and biscuit manufacturer uses it.

The good Quaker founders of many of these companies must be spinning in their graves for this and many other reasons.

Pitterpatterpettysteps · 04/11/2019 04:56

You will find that almost every bar of chocolate out there contains palm oil. As well as every cake, every cookie, and other items that might surprise you

Yes but not all palm oils are created equal. Some are far worse than others. And Cadbury's uses particularly unsustainable palm oils- the sort that are replacing virgin forests and robbing orangutans of their habitats.

Kinder/Ferroro/ Nuttela, on the other hand, have been identified by Greenpeace as one of the most progressive companies in terms of using sustainable palm oil - so there are alternatives

www.greenpeace.org/archive-international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/nutella-palm-oil-deforestation/blog/53269/

Horehound · 04/11/2019 05:01

Palm oil is in half of all products in the supermarket!
We can't do anything really it's up to the manufacturers to take a stance here but none of them will because they all say it's from sustainable forests. Which is all bullishit lies. They can't seriously think it is.
All of them can't be sustainable!

Mintjulia · 04/11/2019 05:07

I don’t need to read the wrapper, I can taste it.

Cadbury’s chocolate has been cheap vile rubbish since shortly after they were taken over. It barely justifies the name chocolate.

Buy less but buy decent quality.

Boysey45 · 04/11/2019 05:09

Its a bad company anyway. A few years ago they laid lots of workers off in Birmingham and moved the chocolate production to Poland. Great so hundreds of people lost their jobs after working there for decades.
Also their chocolate tastes grim, of nothing and is greasy.My Mum had a box of milk tray recently and they were inedible. So aside from the Palm oil issue I wouldn't buy their chocolate anyway.

ScreamingLadySutch · 04/11/2019 05:20

Fully support boycott of Cadbury's to punish Montelez. The American company changed the recipe and drastically reduced the most expensive ingredient (cocoa).

I read it barely qualifies as chocolate any more.

The only chocolate I have found that does not contain palm oil, is Lindt. Even Godiva has palm oil in some products! So I only buy Lindt.

But going down the palm oil route is difficult. Its in everything. But I do try and not buy things containing it.

Its like cocaine. Using something that causes the failure of states and the murder of thousands of people. That is selfish and immoral.

I will try and not contribute to forest burning. Its no use saying 'Its no use'. If we all did it, it would have an impact.

Rachel438 · 04/11/2019 05:29

Easy for me to give up Cadburys as recently found to be pre-diabetic. All sweet stuff is off the menu - along with everything else!!

Joy - not.

ScreamingLadySutch · 04/11/2019 05:33

"Cocoa is produced using child labour, slave labour, and trafficked children." - Absolutely true.

Why? To harvest it at the lowest possible price, to get the best return.

Why? Most cocoa is produced in Africa. It is only exported as a raw material. Africa gets 2% of the value of this valuable commodity. That is colonisation, continued.

Why? Africa cannot get the value add of manufacturing and processing, because they are too poor to invest the billions in factories and develop the expertise to manufacture chocolate, but mostly because our markets would not buy their products.

Why? The rates and tariffs of the darling EU. The Swiss and the Belgians make chocolate! Did you know, there are over 100 EU tariffs on coffee in its various forms, alone.

BikeRunSki · 04/11/2019 06:15

Yesterday 23:12 CactusAndCacti

I looked at spreads recently, and without spending a fortune (or indeed doing so) it was really hard to find one without palm oil in.

That’s exactly it. Palm oil is in so much ready made food because it is cheap to produce and, as a society, we have become used to relatively low food prices. “Good old fashioned butter” is several times more expensive to produce, which trickles down to the cost of the products it’s in. Just look at the cost of a 1L vegetable oil (about £1) to a 250g block of butter (about £2, for much less volume). Nobody says that ethical shopping was cheap. The very point of pal oil is that it is cheap!!

Has anyone mentioned soap? More of less all high street soaps are made with palm oil. Plenty of alternatives available from fair trade/health food shops, and online eg: Faith in Nature, Friendly soap etc, but your not going to get 4 bars for £1, more like 1 bar for £1.50 +.

OhTheRoses · 04/11/2019 06:34

@cannycat20 I doubt the good Quaker founders are spinning in their graves. One has only to look at who ROwntree sold the business to. Nestle. Corporate Social Responsibility my backside.

Theducksarenotmyfriends · 04/11/2019 06:50

Boycotting palm oil isn't the solution. It's an incredibly efficient crop and its replacements are much less sustainable. Promoting the need for sustainable palm oil is better, but we really all need to accept that for us to buy cheap shit means a high cost elsewhere (in terms of environmental impact, slavery, animal cruelty etc). Stuff like chocolate really isn't a necessity in life.

Theducksarenotmyfriends · 04/11/2019 06:52

You can also make your own chocolate, which would be more healthier and you can be sure what's in it then.

MongerTruffle · 04/11/2019 06:53

Lindt chocolate (except Lindor) doesn’t have palm oil.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 04/11/2019 06:59

I check the labels, I avoid ready made meals, I bake my cakes and biscuits and the bloody thing is bloody everywhere.

Cadbury’s is bad and bloody Nutella and peanut butter and what not.

HavelockVetinari · 04/11/2019 07:05

As @Theducksarenotmyfriends says, boycotting palm oil without thinking about where we get replacement oils from is stupid and irresponsible. The next most efficient uses 9 times the amount of land per unit of oil, meaning deforestation would continue at an even greater pace. It's not a simple issue at all.

www.google.com/amp/s/thezerowaster.com/2018/11/29/why-i-dont-avoid-palm-oil/amp/

FlamingoAndJohn · 04/11/2019 07:06

Well were is the op? She had rocked up and demanded we all do something but not bothered to come back and join in the conversation.

I’m all for boycotting palm oil but boycotting one brand does fuck all.
People have refused to buy Nestle for decades and nothing has changed.

OtraCosaMariposa · 04/11/2019 07:07

Cadbury's is rank. They have ruined what used to be a British heritage brand by pumping it full of palm oil and making it cheap and nasty. Chocolate shouldn't be chewy and waxy.

Aldi Moser Roth or Lindt all the way.

FlamingoAndJohn · 04/11/2019 07:07

Cadbury’s is bad and bloody Nutella and peanut butter and what not.

Most peanut butters are palm oil free.

jayboi26 · 04/11/2019 07:10

I am sitting on my bed and a block of Cadbury Chocolate is in front of me with the ingredients staring up at me. And I looked at every ingredients, no where in the list states "Palm Oil" and in fact about 2 years ago or so. Cadbury came out and started that they as a whole company were removing this from there line of chocolate. It has no taste or health value so in fact they DON'T have it in there product. If you want to boycott any product boycott Nestle NUTELLA AS THEY STILL USE PALM OIL

itsboiledeggsagain · 04/11/2019 07:11

People seem to have a limited understanding of how companies work.

I expect my Cadbury and Mr rowntree are turning in their graves because they didn't understand that if the company went public it would become subject to hostile takeovers.
It was not about greedy shareholders. (although they might have been chocolate lovers I guess)

Cardy24 · 04/11/2019 07:11

All Iceland own-branded products are palm oil free

NonUrinatInVentum · 04/11/2019 07:11

YANBU - All of us should be completely avoiding eating any seed oils (no such thing as vegetable oil btw...), they're hugely harmful to our bodies due to the Omega 3 Omega 6 ratio imbalance. Plus it's disgusting.

Flobbertybillop · 04/11/2019 07:16

Co op own brand chocolate doesn’t have palm oil (their extra special range, it whatever it’s called)

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