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How are you voting in December?

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MaMaMaMySharona · 30/10/2019 07:27

Apologies if there’s already a thread on this - I did look and couldn’t find one.

So now it’s been confirmed that we’re having a GE in December, how are you voting? And what are your predictions on the results?

I’ve seen quite a few posts on here over the past couple months from people saying they wouldn’t vote now as they are politically homeless - wondering if these people still feel that way?

I’m voting labour - albeit in a very safe Tory area (so feel very much as though my vote doesn’t count). Reasons being I would never vote Tory and I don’t like a lot of what the Lim Dems have said recently. I also couldn’t bring myself not to vote at all.

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Flatwhite32 · 30/10/2019 20:18

@DBML if you could tell me how Tory cuts have directly affected you, I might understand your point of view more.

sparkly40 · 30/10/2019 20:20

Labour

escapade1234 · 30/10/2019 20:20

Conservative without a doubt. Same goes for my former card-carrying Labour Party member DH. He gave yo his membership this year and will vote Tory for the first time in December.

DBML · 30/10/2019 20:20

@Allthegoodsuns

I wasn’t born privileged. I worked from 14. I worked three jobs through uni - 5pm to 9pm daily in a call centre. 9 hour shift and 6 hour shift at Tesco on Sat/Sun. Private maths tuition as and when.
DH was the same.
We both have big student loans.
We stopped at one child as we couldn’t afford any more.
We have tried to save; have nice holidays once a year; have a mortgage.
I should be wealthy and living the dream now and I’m nowhere near. Hearing people feel that those like me should feel happy to pay more and dig deeper, work ever harder to support society really p’s me off.

Gwiwer · 30/10/2019 20:20

Likely Labour but, in a PR system or a different constituency, would vote Lib.

Livelovebehappy · 30/10/2019 20:23

Haven’t absolutely decided yet. But think it will be Conservative. Have previously voted Labour on occasion, but cannot vote in Corbyn. It would be madness - the man is clueless.

Cinammoncake · 30/10/2019 20:24

DBML If you're paying 2k tax you must be earning plenty for your own family too.

DBML · 30/10/2019 20:24

@Flatwhite32

I’m not talking about the government, I’m talking about some of the attitudes on this thread. Reading it has riled me up.
Good job I have got to get on with some WORK now, otherwise who knows what I’ll end up saying next.

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57Varieties · 30/10/2019 20:26

Lib Dem as I would like to revoke a50.

SNP will clean up here though

dementedma · 30/10/2019 20:26

For the first time ever, spoiling my paper

DBML · 30/10/2019 20:27

@Cinammoncake

Student loans; mortgage; cars due to having to travel for work; travel. I’ve worked hard enough to be rolling in it. That’s why I worked hard was to have a wonderful standard of living. Don’t get me wrong, we’re not scraping by, but I damn well don’t want to pay any more! I worked hard for me, not you.

57Varieties · 30/10/2019 20:28

I just can’t get my head round people who look at the likes of BJ and think he’s doing a decent job.

Smelborp · 30/10/2019 20:28

I am fucking amazed that people would vote conservative after the way the country had been run over the past few years. Austerity, lies, the way they treat the NHS, the way the treat the disabled and regardless of your opinion on Brexit, no one can argue they are handling it well. Just why?

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HoneyandSpice · 30/10/2019 20:28

Lib Dems or Labour. Whichever tactically keeps Cons out of my (decades ago, Tory majority, now Labour) constituency.

I feel like I'm living in some sort of emperors new clothes situation with regard to Johnson. Seriously. He has lied numerous times, tried to break the law, made a show of the Queen, is extremely politically incorrect, he is very far right. Yet still some people support him. Why? What is it that makes anyone align with him? Did you go to Eton? Are you privileged too? Have Hedge funds?
It's either got to be that you've always voted Tory, or are a Brexiter, or have no regard for those who will suffer. Genuinely no idea why the support of him and JRM et all.
Hopefully Cummings will go and have his op and not come back.

notquiteruralbliss · 30/10/2019 20:30

Labour. In a safe Conservative seat.

LaurieMarlow · 30/10/2019 20:32

I actually don’t mind contributing to help the genuinely less abled and those who really need it ie recently made redundant. But I’m also conscious that I’m supporting a lot more than just those aren’t I, thanks to Labours welfare system.

Having lived in the UK for 10 years, then moved back to my native Ireland, I actually can’t believe how much whinging the UK do about tax.

The tax burden in the UK compared to many other counties is very low and the value for money is excellent. I now pay considerably more income tax and I don’t get an NHS for that, I pay privately for healthcare.

You are able bodied, with a good education (presumably funded by the state), in a country where you pay relatively little tax and your health care is provided gratis.

You don’t know you’re fucking born, frankly.

57Varieties · 30/10/2019 20:33

Thing is with a spoiled ballot, no one knows whether it’s some sort of intelligent well thought out protest or you’re just too thick to know how to vote properly. I think it’s pointless. I’d just vote for the person likely to be the person most likely to be the nearest competition to the candidate I hate most, and just view it as cancelling out one of their votes.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 30/10/2019 20:35

@DBML oh stop with the pity party. I bring home £20k a year and I don't struggle on that. Labour's proposal was to increase tax for individuals earning over £80k. If you're earning less than that you've got nothing to worry about. If you're earning more than that and you've got money struggles then you've obviously stretched yourself too far with your outgoings as plenty of people survive on a lot less.

Flatwhite32 · 30/10/2019 20:36

But @DBML I've also worked all my life, got my own place etc and regularly did 60 hour weeks before having my child. My husband does similar. We aren't rolling in it either, but I have been directly affected by the cuts in my job. I'm assuming you haven't felt the impact of them at all, or don't know anyone who has. Some and ill people, for example, can't work. What about them? Yes, there are people who take the piss, but there are many who don't. You're extremely lucky you're not one of them.

DBML · 30/10/2019 20:37

@LaurieMarlow

I went to state school, both parents working class tax payers. So I could argue that they contributed to my education.

Because two parents working, I paid for my own university education via three jobs.

I’m now on the higher tax bracket.

I’m more comfortable than most, but I damn well deserve to be, because it’s largely of my own making and years of hard work.

I don’t think others have the right to come along and call people selfish, because they’d actually like to keep some of their hard earned money.

AllTheGoodUNsTaken · 30/10/2019 20:37

DBML, you may not have been privileged by accident of birth, but you clearly had at least an average intelligence, access to a decent state education, higher education and the physical ability to work those jobs while studying.
Lots of people don't have any of that. And while that's neither your fault, nor your responsibility, you should realise that circumstances can change tomorrow, and you might be the one relying on the state to meet your basic needs.

billydilly · 30/10/2019 20:38

Labour. I live in Hove which is (amazingly) a safe Labour seat thanks to the hard work of Peter Kyle. I have huge issues with Labour's stance on women's rights but could never vote Tory.

WellErrr · 30/10/2019 20:39

If I'm honest I'm surprised anyone could vote Tory after their behaviour over the past few years - especially with Johnson as leader.

See, this is how I feel about people voting Labour with Corbyn as their leader.

I’ll be voting conservative, as will most people I know.

DBML · 30/10/2019 20:39

@Waxonwaxoff0

My point is, I earn my money. I work hard. Where’s my incentive to keep working hard.
I want month long vacations around the world and a nice home, because I feel I’ve earned that. Yet, Labour feel that instead, I need to contribute even more.