How are you voting in December?

[MaMaMaMySharona]

Apologies if there’s already a thread on this - I did look and couldn’t find one.

So now it’s been confirmed that we’re having a GE in December, how are you voting? And what are your predictions on the results?

I’ve seen quite a few posts on here over the past couple months from people saying they wouldn’t vote now as they are politically homeless - wondering if these people still feel that way?

I’m voting labour - albeit in a very safe Tory area (so feel very much as though my vote doesn’t count). Reasons being I would never vote Tory and I don’t like a lot of what the Lim Dems have said recently. I also couldn’t bring myself not to vote at all.

Yes, the conservatives will do a better job than labour at managing the economy. That is a reason to vote for them. A strong economy is most important for those who aren’t rich.

There are other parties Tulip. Tories are the worst thing that can happen. We’ve had them for several years and have a divided country, the country losing money and jobs over Brexit, public services on its knees, building on green spaces..... same old same old Etonites putting themselves first.

Libdem for me. Dh wants to vote Green but will prob go Lib Dem this time.

Hmm, and how are the tories working out for the poor right now, Tulip?

Yes, the conservatives will do a better job than labour at managing the economy

The evidence does not bear this out.

And as others have said, labour isn’t the only other option.

tulip, are you disabled or have a very close disabled family member you care for (and had to give up work due to your caring duties?)?

I am of the opinion that if you vote Tory, you don't care about disabled people and other vulnerable groups, state education, or the NHS. I'm sorry, but you don't.

I'm interested in how the newer voters (who can vote in a GE for the first time, so aged around 18-21) will be voting. Anyone have DC around that age who wants to share? Just out of curiosity!

Tulips I asked for other reasons. I'm still waiting.

I realise that if you believe that nonsense it's a big enough issue on its own, I'm just curious to hear any more

DUP but would vote conservative if on the mainland.

Ok nonsense was rude, sorry

Ok let's put it this way.if you want to vote for Tories then you are either 1) rich and selfish or 2) not very well informed about what they have done/will do 3) a leaver

Wow. What an entitled post. So I have to generously give away my hard earned money, that I work 60 hours a week for and spent 5 years studying at degree/post degree level. I’m taxed to the heavens already and although I technically should be wealthy, I’m not. Because between my husband and I we have around £2000 in deductions every month. But forget that, because I’d like to put my own family first, pay off my mortgage etc and not endlessly pay into the welfare system, I must be selfish.
I’ve never been a stay at home mum; never been unemployed; worked since I was 14; only family member to go to uni; massive student loan; earned every penny that’s paid for our house/ holidays etc, but there are people out there who still feel entitled to my money. “Rich and selfish”. Piss off.

100% Labour.
If anyone votes Tory and they get in again... well they deserve everything coming to them. If you are independently wealthy knock yourself out otherwise if you are an employee/working class I cannot understand why you would vote against your best interests and those of your community.

I’ve never been a stay at home mum; never been unemployed; worked since I was 14

You’re lucky that you can work.

Plenty of disabled people would love to be able to and cannot.

LibDem. Never voted Tory, and particularly detest Johnson. Not a Corbyn fan. Swinson's a bit underwhelming, but at least she's clearly anti-Brexit. Also it's the tactical vote in my constituency if you want to keep the Tories out, and I have a very good LibDem MP.

Not to mention family carers of the disabled, who’ve had to give up their earning potential to do that.

@dbml, I've done all of those things (including the 60 hour week before I had my baby) as has my husband, but I am willing to pay 'endlessly' into the welfare system because I care about vulnerable groups. I care about the children I teach. I take it neither of you work in the public sector and are feeling the impact of cuts? I take it you don't have a disabled child affected by welfare cuts? I take it you're not buying a class of children pens because the school has run out of money in the stationery budget? I take it you don't have a child with special needs, who isn't getting the help they need at school due to Tory cuts. No. Thought not.

@laurieMarlow

Oh that’s ok then. Because there are less fortunate, I’ll happily work myself into an early grave to keep others.

I actually don’t mind contributing to help the genuinely less abled and those who really need it ie recently made redundant. But I’m also conscious that I’m supporting a lot more than just those aren’t I, thanks to Labours welfare system.

I must be so weird because I'd be happy to pay more tax, if it was used wisely. And I say that as a single mum getting no child maintenance. Cancer treatment is really expensive! and that could be any of us, and certainly will be someone we care about.

I saw the brilliant Harriet Harman speak once. She was, in a tactful way, bemoaning the leftie purists, who'd rather Labour wasn't in power if it wasn't perfect.

Shortly before the 1997 election she visited a hospital and a consultant held up his waiting list. He pointed "from here down they'll die before they get the operation".

People forget how bad it was. Even the papers came over to Labour. We can't fuck around like this. Less than perfect is far better than downright damaging.

@Flatwhite32

Oh how you assume.

I’m sorry, but I don’t want to work and pay in endlessly, when my own family see less and less benefit from that work. Perhaps I’ll quit work and join the bandwagon.

Conservative.
Predicting a Conservative majority.

racist Corbyn

Genuinely can’t believe anyone would say this in comparison with our current prime minister. He referred to people in burqas “letterboxes”.

Seriously.

I’ve never been a stay at home mum; never been unemployed; worked since I was 14; only family member to go to uni; massive student loan; earned every penny that’s paid for our house/ holidays etc, but there are people out there who still feel entitled to my money

But you presumably are in good health and have been lucky enough to have had good opportunities, by the sound of it. Many disabled and vulnerable people don't have those options. It's not about people on support being "entitled". Yes, there are people that take the piss out of the welfare system, but there are many more genuine users who can't work that struggle with a life on PIP/UC. It's not a life of luxury by any means.

Absolutely not Tory. Never in a million years UKIP. Cant vote SNP as not in Scotland. The greens seem awfully nice but they'll never get in.

I think I.probably identify with the lib dem policies the most but fear it would be a wasted vote - it's a two horse race in my constituency (currently labour hold) but even if it wasnt i dont believe the lib dems would get in nationally.

So Labour, although I think Jeremy Corbyn has been a real disapointment, his Glastonbury speech was so energetic and inspiring and then he did.... pretty much nothing.

I actually don’t mind contributing to help the genuinely less abled and those who really need it ie recently made redundant. But I’m also conscious that I’m supporting a lot more than just those aren’t I, thanks to Labours welfare system.
Labour have been out of power for almost a decade. Torys have had a long time to sort it out. If you still have issues with the management of the welfare system, that's not all on Labour.

Lib Dem - purely because of their stance on Brexit and I just CANNOT vote for Corbyn.