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AIBU to think this is gaslighting from DH?

157 replies

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:26

DH, I believe, has a pattern of grumpiness/stress and I feel he can be overbearing, withdrawn or snappy for periods (prob rowed about this for years, but no admission of this on his part). I expect it’s work related but he’s never said as much.

All very petty on a Sat night in, DD playing with a disco light in the same room. After ten mins or so DH looks up from phone, says “please turn the lights off it’s giving me a headache and I can’t have a headache in my own home.” So I turn it off, go to phone app to switch normal lights on with a very brief delay, DH says seconds later “I don’t want to be plunged into darkness either what’s going on?”. Lights go on except one “what’s happening with this light?” Angrily said BTW. I snapped back and told him to be patient and I was doing it, did raise voice as I was irritated by his tone and impatience. But not screaming. He walks out, comes back in and says to me “I do many things but I DON’T raise my voice at people”. DS aged 8 said “yes you do”. I’m mortified the kids were party to all this. More words exchanged after the kids went to bed. Pretty much a replay of the above.

He hasn’t spoken to me since, I tried to discuss last night after kids in bed. Asked how his meeting had gone, but he mumbled and eventually said he’s still upset at me for raising my voice and playing the kids off against him.

I haven’t apologised, said it wasn’t acceptable to talk to me like that in front of the kids and that he provoked me. I shouldn’t have reacted but I’m flabbergasted at how this is playing out. I’ve tried twice to talk to him in a friendly ish manner and been blanked. I’ve never played the kids off against him, I know how damaging that can be. My elder child is quite protective of me and i think is keyed into the fact DH is the more bad tempered parent.

Last falling out was when he came home drunk after a work function, laughed at the tea I’d made him (bit of a kids tea but so what) and called a school mum I vaguely know a hag. This was about a month ago and I was very upset, but honestly I can’t remember how it was resolved.

We’ve had bereavements, job loss, moves etc to deal with over the past six or so years. How do I deal with this ridiculousness? Just go? Don’t want to feel terrorised in my own home. He’s good domestically and with the kids. I’m retraining and wonder if being responsible for just the one salary is also taking its toll.

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FFSnotanotherone · 29/10/2019 22:28

Doesn't sound like gaslighting but like a petty row that is now being dragged on due to you both not talking. Someone needs to break the ice

greypetex · 29/10/2019 22:34

Not gas lighting, just being an absolute prick.

AnneLovesGilbert · 29/10/2019 22:35

It’s not gaslighting and sulking is pathetic but you’re hardly being terrorised in your own home. Are you often quite dramatic?

Why does your child need to protect you?

You both sound snappy and crap at communicating. Something to work on before your children think this dynamic is either normal or okay.

ThreeLittleDots · 29/10/2019 22:35

He sounds horrible... who does he think he is?! The thing with the lights - he had a controlling, condescending tone. Then to stonewall you since is abusive.

The laughing at your dinner and calling someone names, cements for me that he's a bully.

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:36

I tried to break the ice on two occasions. Was given no shrift. Genuine question though if that’s an ok way to talk to me? Totally open to it being an over reaction on my part. I’m confused as I’ve tried to break ice - where to go next?

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Butchyrestingface · 29/10/2019 22:36

please turn the lights off it’s giving me a headache and I can’t have a headache in my own home.

Lol, classic line.

He sounds like a bit of a delicate flower, and a highly irritable, hard-to-please one at that.

Summercamping · 29/10/2019 22:37

Have you considered counselling as an option? It can help when one party has difficulty communicating, which sounds like the case here.

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:38

I’ve actually booked in for counselling previously but cancelled. Maybe I need to try again - I honestly think he’d mid represent himself which worries me.

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Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:39

He is hard to please, really critical sometimes too. Ugh, feel a bit hopeless

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WomensRightsAreContraversial · 29/10/2019 22:41

It all sounds overly dramatic for petty subjects from both of you. Your 8 year old's comment was quite telling though. He didn't like that both his wife and child independently called him out on his behaviour.

ThreeLittleDots · 29/10/2019 22:42

I'd go to counselling by yourself OP. Does this ring any bells?

psychcentral.com/blog/signs-of-an-emotionally-abusive-relationship/

Hilda40 · 29/10/2019 22:43

Playing with disco lights would be pretty annoying TNF

ThreeLittleDots · 29/10/2019 22:43

No - it's not an ok way to talk to you.

ThreeLittleDots · 29/10/2019 22:44

Also check this link too:

www.relate.org.uk/relationship-help/help-relationships/arguing-and-conflict/what-emotional-abuse

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:45

Oh gosh, definitely the first three. Has been very awful about my cooking which fits with the belittling aspect. That’s an eye opener

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Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:48

TBF they’re not really disco lights, they’re Hue ones that DD was changing the colour of for 10 mins

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Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:52

@womensrightsare it was a bit OTT on all sides. I’ve just felt worn down by his mood swings lately. Had his parents up few days before, and we both hosted the heck out of it. Visited my DF and he just stared at his phone until my DF tried to include him, then straight back on phone. Things just brewing I guess

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Comtesse · 29/10/2019 22:54

Not speaking to you can be a form of abuse. Silly row about nothing much that has turned into something much bigger. Does your husband do this very often?

Sparklfairy · 29/10/2019 22:54

Delicate flower is right. Can't have a headache in his own home indeed. How do the rest of us cope then? Knobhead.

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:55

Thank you @threelittledots

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Interestedwoman · 29/10/2019 22:57

That reminds me of my dad.

Even your DS can see how your husband treats you isn't ok.

I know some might think it is dramatic to say you feel tyrannised, but I know exactly what you mean. My mum and I, probably my sister too, described living with my dad as 'walking on eggshells' or 'living with a volcano.'

It is emotional abuse, as you don't know when you're going to face an outburst etc.

I've no doubt that he also sometimes has a go at the kids- or at the very least they will expect him to having seen how he behaves towards you.

Your kids won't even be seeing the real you- when my mum left my dad when I was 17, she instantly became a much warmer and more caring person towards us. Before, she didn't have the emotional energy for us, as she had to deal with his moods all the time etc. I'm not saying it necessarily effects you in that particular way, but there will be ways you're not able to be the person and the mum you can be. At the very least, you would never voluntarily put your kids in the way of anyone else who behaved as he behaves.

Wishing you a better future. Hugs xxxxx

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:58

I have had the silent treatment several times @comtesse. Usually me to apologise or break ice

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Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:59

@AnneLovesGilbert I appreciate terrorised is a bit strong, but I’m often on edge at home with DH. It’s an awful feeling

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Comtesse · 29/10/2019 23:00

Not normal, deeply unkind. Painful for everyone else. What would you like to do next?

Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 23:01

@Interestedwoman thank you. I’m glad your mum got some semblance of her self back. My DM was the same, which adds another dimension of hurt to this.

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