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AIBU to think this is gaslighting from DH?

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Fedriteup · 29/10/2019 22:26

DH, I believe, has a pattern of grumpiness/stress and I feel he can be overbearing, withdrawn or snappy for periods (prob rowed about this for years, but no admission of this on his part). I expect it’s work related but he’s never said as much.

All very petty on a Sat night in, DD playing with a disco light in the same room. After ten mins or so DH looks up from phone, says “please turn the lights off it’s giving me a headache and I can’t have a headache in my own home.” So I turn it off, go to phone app to switch normal lights on with a very brief delay, DH says seconds later “I don’t want to be plunged into darkness either what’s going on?”. Lights go on except one “what’s happening with this light?” Angrily said BTW. I snapped back and told him to be patient and I was doing it, did raise voice as I was irritated by his tone and impatience. But not screaming. He walks out, comes back in and says to me “I do many things but I DON’T raise my voice at people”. DS aged 8 said “yes you do”. I’m mortified the kids were party to all this. More words exchanged after the kids went to bed. Pretty much a replay of the above.

He hasn’t spoken to me since, I tried to discuss last night after kids in bed. Asked how his meeting had gone, but he mumbled and eventually said he’s still upset at me for raising my voice and playing the kids off against him.

I haven’t apologised, said it wasn’t acceptable to talk to me like that in front of the kids and that he provoked me. I shouldn’t have reacted but I’m flabbergasted at how this is playing out. I’ve tried twice to talk to him in a friendly ish manner and been blanked. I’ve never played the kids off against him, I know how damaging that can be. My elder child is quite protective of me and i think is keyed into the fact DH is the more bad tempered parent.

Last falling out was when he came home drunk after a work function, laughed at the tea I’d made him (bit of a kids tea but so what) and called a school mum I vaguely know a hag. This was about a month ago and I was very upset, but honestly I can’t remember how it was resolved.

We’ve had bereavements, job loss, moves etc to deal with over the past six or so years. How do I deal with this ridiculousness? Just go? Don’t want to feel terrorised in my own home. He’s good domestically and with the kids. I’m retraining and wonder if being responsible for just the one salary is also taking its toll.

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Fedriteup · 30/10/2019 11:02

@Storsteinen I appreciate that, we’re quick to dismiss sometimes

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Fedriteup · 30/10/2019 11:04

@ThreeLittleDots I know!

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jamaisjedors · 30/10/2019 11:10

God he sounds like my exH.

Take a look at my threads about my "sulking DH" if you haven't seen them OP.

I know that feeling of walking on eggshells and always having to sort stuff out.

EXh used to say to me pointedly "oh they are so noisy" ie "shut them up" about the dc. Why not just ask them himself? It is not your responsability to make his life perfect "in his own home" - sounds like some 50s nightmare idea of a SAHM.

Fedriteup · 30/10/2019 11:20

@jamaisjedors sorry you had to go through that. DH also far worse post kids, though some shades of it. Joyless is the right word, so much to be grateful for but not allowed to take pleasure in life.

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VanyaHargreeves · 30/10/2019 11:32

No answer to my question as to why he expects you to sort it out when he is in the same room, as if he is a third child

Fedriteup · 30/10/2019 11:34

DD was using a lighting app on my phone that he doesn’t have.

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VanyaHargreeves · 30/10/2019 11:36

So he takes the phone and turns it off

ThreeLittleDots · 30/10/2019 12:07

Hmm tumbleweeds

How are you feeling about it now, OP?

Motoko · 30/10/2019 12:09

Never suggest to abused women joint counselling. A pp has already explained why.

OP, it might help you to have counselling on your own, but not with the intention of helping your marriage. It might help you to feel stronger. You should start planning on leaving, because it's not good for yours, or your children's, mental health to live like this.

As a pp suggested, go and see a solicitor to find out how much of the split of assets you will likely get, what access arrangements can be made regarding the children, etc. Also, check out a benefits calculator, to see what you will be entitled to. Knowledge is power, and if he comes out with shit like he'll have full custody of the children, or you won't get the house (if you own), etc, you'll know he's talking bollocks, and he won't be able to use threats like that to shut you up and stay.

Contact Women's Aid and have a chat. They're their to give support and advice to women suffering any type of abuse, not just physical.

It would also be a good idea to try to get a job.

It WILL be hard, but better to go through a tough time temporarily, than live like this until you die.

Motoko · 30/10/2019 12:12

Ack, "they're there" not "they're their"!

Fedriteup · 30/10/2019 12:58

Thank you @motoko

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Fedriteup · 30/10/2019 12:59

I feel better spoken to my mum and calmed down. I’m home alone til tomorrow which is a blessing @ThreeLittleDots

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Londonmummy66 · 30/10/2019 13:07

I have a few stockphrases that I use that seem to work. The first is "feel free" - so if DH complains about something in a PA manner I will usually tell him "Feel free to do xyz" - eg this house is a tip "Feel free to tidy it up".

I treat his sulking the same way as teenage DCs' - ie bright and breezy, no requirement for a reply - eg "Dinner will be on the table in 10 minutes if you want to wind up here." rather than saying something that needs a response like "Is it OK to clear up as I need to set the table for dinner?" I usually find sulks stop when they are being ignored and by ignoring the sulk not the person I feel I have the moral high ground which makes it harder to manipulate me.

Hope that helps.

ILiveInSalemsLot · 30/10/2019 18:31

Londonmummy I’m glad you’ve found a way to make things a bit easier but it’s sad that you felt like you had to find a way to cope.
You shouldn’t have had to.

Fedriteup · 31/10/2019 19:44

He’s back - walked in with kids and he’d returned from business trip. Kids are in bath and he’s loudly saying ‘this is why I Don’t agree with trick or treating, waste of time, full of sugar and over tired!’ Because my DD got worried her sweets would be gone in the morning. Feels like more shouty PA behaviour. No contact since he left on tues am. Sigh

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Fedriteup · 31/10/2019 19:54

It was loud enough I could hear it downstairs I should add. It’s this sort of chuntering that adds to my feeling on edge.

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Butterymuffin · 31/10/2019 20:29

Put the sweets away somewhere so he can't get rid of them. And ignore anything from him that isn't an attempt to engage you in normal pleasant conversation. Behave like you literally can't hear anything else.

Fedriteup · 31/10/2019 20:31

Thanks @butterymuffin. Can’t believe he’s been away two days and comes back like this. It’s like he doesn’t know how else to be

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Fedriteup · 31/10/2019 20:37

Don’t think he’d get rid of them, more a reaction to DDs sweet based anxiety. But just making sure I know that her upset is my fault

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candycane222 · 31/10/2019 22:37

Ugh, he's a brat. Nasty - and really having a go at you, wasn't he? Geel quite angry on your behalf

Storsteinen · 31/10/2019 23:20

This man is an absolute dick.
Does he actually want to be in the marriage?
He's not behaving as if he does.
I think you should get rid of him - life would be so much better without him going on and on about shit.
He also has no idea how to parent - you're supposed to do all of that. Fucking hell - why is he so pathetic that he can't deal with reassuring a child who might be worried about sweets being gone in the morning? Can't he cope with a child who has had a bit too much sugar on Halloween FFS??

Fedriteup · 01/11/2019 06:41

My thoughts exactly. Just another example of him sucking the joy out of life.

The thought of shared custody if I go makes me want to cry- I just couldn’t imagine not being with DC every single day.

I’m supposed to be out tonight with a friend, I was considering not going but I should just sod him. Ugh, can’t believe my life has come to this.

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candycane222 · 01/11/2019 06:55

This is not food for your kids. How can they grow up feeling loveable or even acceptable with him treating them as a problem so much of the time?

candycane222 · 01/11/2019 06:56

GOOD for your kids! Sorry

Fedriteup · 01/11/2019 07:31

i know, I feel so sad for them. He’s downstairs now totally calmly doing breakfast and got them dressed. It’s just all so confusing.

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