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A missing 15 year old girl was spotted in videos hosted by Pornhub. Those of you who are “ok” with porn - are you “ok” with this?

The sentence the man involved in making the videos is for another thread, but is shocking.

“Japanese porn as always been almost exclusively Anime which are illustrations, usually on paper, so not going to be found on pornhub!”

Actually...I hadn’t a clue what Anime was so googled, and came across a link on pornhub...eeeuuww creepy stuff ☹️

- An end to video uploading sites, all porn paid for and made by regulated companies operating under much stricter rules

Surely the platforms allow professional sites to offer free samples and advertise their actual existence.

Plus there are the amateurs. Where are Mr and Mrs Smith meant to upload their videos of themselves shagging, if they don't want to do it for money but for the dogging aspect.

Much more in depth checks as to prospective performers history so vulnerable women (and men) with complex mental health issues and/or a history of abuse are not hired for that line of work

This made me think of reality TV. In recent years they have supposedly put assessments in place to make sure the contestants are mentally sound and able to deal with what being on TV might bring.

Why is this not in place for porn actors. Anyone, no matter their reason or how damaged they are can go into porn, and there is no regard for how this may affect them or help for them to deal with it.

If porn wants to be treated like a actual and ligitinate business, they need to start acting like one.

I have enough mental capacity to disapprove of this while still enjoying porn. What I think is unreasonable is high and mighty people saying what others should and shouldn't like.

“ I have enough mental capacity to disapprove of this while still enjoying porn.“

How?

Thanks for the link re ethical organisations. There are no large mainstream organisations in there, though noticed YES, whose products I’ve just started using.

So, if we boycott porn, should we also boycott all other organisations where exploitation might, or might not exist? Where would that lead to for those who do want to work in an industry through free will, be it porn or anything else? Porn is stated as the easy choice to avoid..what about anything else...eating our preferred brand of chocolate for example? (Mine is currently Revels - I really have no idea if exploitation of any man, woman or child was instrumental in its production but will now google).

Good pro active suggestions from frosted - for exploitation of any kind.

It is down to personal choice. Some people avoid porn but use other services where exploitation might, or might not happen. Some will only use any service that they know 100% that there has been no exploitation, but I wonder how many?

Actually...I hadn’t a clue what Anime was so googled, and came across a link on pornhub...eeeuuww creepy stuff ☹️

I'd clear out your cache and use your browser's erase recent history function if I were you. For the past few years it has been illegal even to view cartoon or CGI images of minors, and if one of them even turned up in a thumbnail on the results page, well, at that point the law might already have technically been broken even if the result wasn't clicked on and watched. So...get clearing would be my advice.

Porn is stated as the easy choice to avoid..what about anything else...eating our preferred brand of chocolate for example? (Mine is currently Revels - I really have no idea if exploitation of any man, woman or child was instrumental in its production but will now google).

Revels are Mars owned, aren't they? AFAIK, Mars is not the worst for having child slavery in its supply chain, but it's nowhere near the best.

Your minimum bar should be chocolate with a fair-trade mark on it, and Sainsbury's has started stocking Tony's Chocolate, a brand founded to provide slavery-free chocolate. I linked to the wiki page earlier.

I'd clear out your cache and use your browser's erase recent history function if I were you. For the past few years it has been illegal even to view cartoon or CGI images of minors, and if one of them even turned up in a thumbnail on the results page, well, at that point the law might already have technically been broken even if the result wasn't clicked on and watched

This is true (though you're very unlikely to have anyone knocking your door down) but it also highlights a major difference between Japan and the UK.

It's a perfectly legal and acceptable business to make and sell swimsuit photoshoots of preteen girls. It's quite misleading to draw parallels to the west in terms of sex and relationships because culturally it's quite different.

You don't need coffee or tea or chocolate or avocados or nights out in a hotel to survive either...

I'd say sexual needs can be more important. Though it depends on the indibidual and their sex drive libido etc. But I am sure there are people who would much rather miss out on tea and chocolate than the things that give them the horn and the means to scratch it (to some degree).

Surely the platforms allow professional sites to offer free samples and advertise their actual existence

Good point.
Perhaps the businesses should have a 'free samples' section in their websites where viewers can watch say, a 10 minute clip of all the videos but would have to pay for the full version?

Plus there are the amateurs. Where are Mr and Mrs Smith meant to upload their videos of themselves shagging, if they don't want to do it for money but for the dogging aspect

Also good point.
Hm, I think they would have to either have their video kept private and not on the internet or upload onto their own personal site.

So, if we boycott porn, should we also boycott all other organisations where exploitation might, or might not exist?

Except we know that exploitation absolutely does exist in porn. Ex-performers are on record as having experienced it. If there was no abuse, there would be no need for those "ethical studios" that have been repeatedly referred to on here to have been set up and to have badged them as such, so even parts of the industry itself acknowledge that it is exploitative. Why are you so determined to deny it? (That's a rhetorical question, it's obvious why.)

To answer your (trick?) question - if I know exploitation definitely occurs then OF COURSE I try to boycott the exploitative supplier where it's at all possible and find an alternative. It's harder to avoid some than others but porn is such a quick win I honestly can't see why you wouldn't. But then I don't consider having a recreational orgasm on a par with eating food or wearing clothes and I don't cum over a sack of potatoes from the local farm shop or a new sweater from the charity shop in town. In porn your orgasm is literally the end product and if you can't achieve one from any other way than from watching an exploitative industry at work then I feel sorry for you for having such a limited imagination.

Actually...I hadn’t a clue what Anime was so googled, and came across a link on pornhub...eeeuuww

Anime is usually illustration on paper but yes I imagine cartoon versions exist too.

It's something that has always been freely available to anyone who wants it, not that I think it should be, it's vile, but it has always been there, most people don't look at it or watch it because it's depicting paedophilia which the vast majority of people find repulsive.

Revels are Mars owned, aren't they? AFAIK, Mars is not the worst for having child slavery in its supply chain, but it's nowhere near the best.

Your minimum bar should be chocolate with a fair-trade mark on it, and Sainsbury's has started stocking Tony's Chocolate, a brand founded to provide slavery-free chocolate. I linked to the wiki page earlier.

Thanks for the info. However it also proves the point that exploitation just might exist...like with porn, so should we boycott Mars? I’ve seen Tony’s chocolate in Sainsbos and tried it, also other brands with Fairtrade logo, but don’t enjoy them as much. I wonder how many on here just stick to chocolate with the Fairtrade logo though 🤔.

I’ve seen Tony’s chocolate in Sainsbos and tried it, also other brands with Fairtrade logo, but don’t enjoy them as much

And I wonder how many porn users apply exactly the same reasoning to porn. Which is kind of the issue, really...

most people don't look at it or watch it because it's depicting paedophilia which the vast majority of people find repulsive

Why are there so many videos with totals like “small tight teen gets fucked” “young teen gets gangbanged” if people find it so repulsive?

Thanks for the info. However it also proves the point that exploitation just might exist...like with porn, so should we boycott Mars? I’ve seen Tony’s chocolate in Sainsbos and tried it, also other brands with Fairtrade logo, but don’t enjoy them as much. I wonder how many on here just stick to chocolate with the Fairtrade logo though 🤔.

So, what. Get over yourself and start buying chocolate that wasn't produced by slaves.

And stop arguing that risking watching rape is okay because no-one bothers about slavery in other contexts. It's been clearly demonstrated to you that other people do bother. The fact that you apparently don't in any context reflects your selfishness and not our hypocrisy. Because we're not hypocrites.

And in case it is extremely not clear to you, I. Don't. Buy. Mars.

Muh choozey choicezzzzz!

Yeah, but since porn affects how 'real' men treat and see 'real' women in the 'real' world, it's not so much about your choozy choicez anymore, is it?

Porn is fucking revolting. Its consumers even more so.

Ok, so say we boycott porn, we also boycott Mars - should be just as easy an ask ...who/what else should we boycott? Where does boycotting any and every company that deals in exploitation lead to? What are the implications for those who work in these businesses who are not being exploited? Or should there be tighter regulation - some of the suggestions made by frosted above?

What is actually becoming clearer to me is that although I watch porn, and think I’m pretty careful in what/where I watch it, I’m probably using other services or buying products with far more risk of exploitation than porn.

The trouble is that as far as some people are concerned anything to do with sex is in a separate category to any other human activity. So the fact that your chocolates, your party clothes, your tech, your skincare products etc are very likely to involve cruelty and exploitation at some point in the supply chain is a bit oh dear, how sad, well, perhaps I'll look into the more ethical options. But if it's sexually explicit media or entertainment, or the exchancing of sexual acts for money, then there is no possible redemption for anyone and the only answer is to prohibit everything associated with it.

Japanese porn as always been almost exclusively Anime which are illustrations, usually on paper, so not going to be found on pornhub!

Absolute rubbish. Every video rental and second hand dvd shop I've been in here has had a sizeable porn and adult section. Japan produced loads of non-animated video porn.

Except no one has said anything remotely like that, Reanimated.

🤯 we’ve had whataboutery
🤯 we’ve had NAPILT
🤯 we’ve had everyone who objects is a prude

What the actual fuck do you mean by whataboutery?

You are a hypocrite. Happy to sit there using other products and services, you don't care about the abuse and exploitation involved in production of those.

But you're so arrogant and full of yourself you are brushing it off with 'whataboutery'.

Idiot.

What the actual fuck do you mean by whataboutery?

You are a hypocrite. Happy to sit there using other products and services, you don't care about the abuse and exploitation involved in production of those

You’ve kinda answered your own question there, champ.