To ask supporters of porn to read this

[SmileEachDay]

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A missing 15 year old girl was spotted in videos hosted by Pornhub. Those of you who are “ok” with porn - are you “ok” with this?

The sentence the man involved in making the videos is for another thread, but is shocking.

The unholy alliance of misogynists, incels and pornographers......

According to this thread porn is the only way some of you can cum. Whatever happened to using a little imagination.

It is probably similar to why people have actual sex rather than just imagining it. Doing is better. Amd for many seeing is also better than thinking about it.

Still, in a lot of ways it probably would be better if people could find thinking about it enough to content them. Would solve a lot of problems but human sexuality doesn't seem to work that way for a lot of people.

I do really wonder how men ever managed to orgasm before 2007.

I do really wonder how men ever managed to orgasm before 2007.

A lot of them used porn. It's been around in video form since we first had motion pictures and pictorial form before then.

In decades gone by people used to do without sex-outside-of-marriage, ONS, FWBs and all the rest of it.

Doesn't mean that someone in 2019 has to be happy about doing without sex just because their great-great-grandmother did.

“ Doesn't mean that someone in 2019 has to be happy about doing without sex just because their great-great-grandmother did.”
As I said, if you need porn

You are a rape apologist.

I don't think you know what that means. Nowhere have I defended, justified or excused either rape or the actions of rapists.

Disagreeing with a specific proposed solution to rape is not doing that. (I mean, you might propose the solution of incarcerating every male on their 13th birthday for life, and just because someone disagrees and tells you to think up a better solution than that, to find the actual rapists and punish the, they are not being a rape apologist. Really they aren't.

And disagreeing with the solution of banning nail bars and fruit picking as a solution to trafficking is not being a traffic apologist. It is just disagreeing with a specific proposed solution to a problem.

Some people do love their hyperbole.

“Some people do love their hyperbole.“

Says the man who appears to think no porn means no sex....

According to this thread porn is the only way some of you can cum. Whatever happened to using a little imagination.

Are you only able to cum with the help of porn videos?

Assumptions without foundation made from 2 posters, trying to shame for enjoying watching porn.

Just because someone doesn't watch porn it does not mean they are a prude, puritan or don't enjoy sex.

Of course it doesn’t – each to their own – just as if someone does watch porn they shouldn’t be judged

"Why is the desire to “cum” considered so paltry and unimportant though? That pleasure is in some way unworthy or bad?"

That sounds so rapey

WTF – rapey? The desire to cum and pleasure gained from it? For many reasons this is very important to me.

As for Smile “rape apologist” – using such language and trying to shame us, making assumptions that just by watching porn – any porn – that we will definitely be watching someone who is being exploited, which you do not know for a fact, and so we shouldn’t. Yet it’s ok if by any chance we use any other service where exploitation might well be more rife…because it is “more necessary” so that is ok. But of course this is all to do with sex, so it must be shamed more for those who partake in watching it – even ethically.

Says the man who appears to think no porn means no sex....

and more assumptions!

I do really wonder how men ever managed to orgasm before 2007

Are you serious? Porn, sexual slavery, prostitution, and even pedophilia have been around as long as humans have in one form or another no doubt as long as outraged people have

Erotic depictions (pornography) including paintings, sculpture, and photographs, that show sexual acts - including orgies (or gangbangs) - have existed throughout time and created by nearly every civilization. In ancient civilisations depictions of graphic sexual acts adorned common-place items such as vases and eating utensils - some depicting abuse of women. They didn't have video but no doubt if they did they would have used in the same way we do - it is just another medium - a contemporary one - for the transmission of porn. Each society uses what is available to them.

Regarding the sexual abuse of individuals: pederasty (sex between a man and a boy) in Greek society was common practice, as was prostitution. Sex slaves were common-place - not something to be hidden away but part of the fabric of society with regulations placed on them depending on the slave's place in the hierarchy of sex slaves.

The idea that men (or women for that matter) couldn't have orgasms, or that sexual slavery and the abuse of women or children is a modern day issue and didn't exist prior to Pornhub .... is frankly ludicrous.

over50andfab

I said JAP was for a specific comment. As I did for the previous posts of his which have been deleted.

A lot of posters on here (not all) who do not agree with those of us who do watch porn do not seem to be able to debate the issue, rather they have resorted to accusing, assuming, goading and name calling...shame!

I said JAP was for a specific comment. As I did for the previous posts of his which have been deleted

You and a number of others have very much insinuated that of every single porn watcher here.

You may have only used the phrase 'rape apologist' for one specific poster but most of your other posts claiming that people who watch porn obviously don't care about abuse are pretty much stating the same.

It is absolutely disgusting and as I said upthread;

One, I wonder if you'd be brave enough to be so appallingly rude and make such heinous (and almost certainly utterly wrong) assumptions of people in real life (I strongly suspect not)

Two, I am genuinely curious as to why porn watchers are clearly unconcerned about abuse but tea and coffee drinkers and avocado and chocolate and fruit and veg eaters and clothes manufactured overseas buyers and buyers of furniture and home furnishings manufactured abroad and people who eat takeaways and people who use car washes and people who stay in hotels somehow don't come under the same scrutiny despite it being common knowledge that horrendous abuse exists in every single one of the aforementioned industries.

It's been said frequently on here you don't need porn.

You don't need coffee or tea or chocolate or avocados or nights out in a hotel to survive either...

I said JAP was for a specific comment. As I did for the previous posts of his which have been deleted.

Which comment was it this time? Perhaps it was when I defended a male not turning down a ONS with a girl in a bar who looks overage, because she potentially might be underage. Because that theoretical possibility is there. Guess that makes me a statutory rape-apologist.

Well this is all very interesting but I think I am going to take the same attitude to your constant bandying about of rape apologist as feminists do about the term transphobia. ie I'll just shrug my shoulders.

P.S. Bertrand you must have misread something. I have not suggested that at all.

You may have only used the phrase 'rape apologist' for one specific poster

Nope, pretty sure I was called an apologist for rape, trafficking AND exploitation upthread (I guess that me sneaking a look at a copy of Razzle back in the 90's was probably the primary catalyst for the outbreak of the Gulf war too!)

“You and a number of others have very much insinuated that of every single porn watcher here.”
Anyone who engaged in any aspect of the man stream sex industry is running the risk of colluding in exploitation or trafficking. And an exploited or trafficked woman is not able to consent to sex.. I am sorry if that is something you don’t want to hear, but it’s the truth.

Yes, obviously my post above was a joke (before I get accused of making light of a difficult topic).

My point is that I, and probably every other person on this thread who is ADMITTING (key point) to using porn, have the same views on the news story in the OP as everyone else. Everyone agrees that regulations should be improved, that some porn is harmful and that the ease of access by young people is an issue.

If you disagree with ALL porn on a moral level that's fine and isn't the 'wrong' opinion. Nor is it the 'wrong' opinion to approve of pornography. It WOULD be wrong to approve of rape and trafficking but nobody here is doing that.

“ Everyone agrees that regulations should be improved,”
But are happy to carry on using porn until this happens...

Anyone who engaged in any aspect of the man stream sex industry is running the risk of colluding in exploitation or trafficking. And an exploited or trafficked woman is not able to consent to sex.. I am sorry if that is something you don’t want to hear, but it’s the truth

And anyone who has engaged in the buying of:

• Coffee
• tea
• avocados
• chocolate
• coconut oil
• furniture
• paint
• electronic goods
• plastic goods
• clothing
• cars
• cosmetics, including natural 'ethical' ones with castor oil as an ingredient
• pretty much anything manufactured abroad in poorer countries actually
• fresh fruit and veg (including that from British farms)
• nail bar services
• hair extensions
• hotels
• restaurants and takeaways
• car washes
• films (of the non porn variety)

Has almost certainly colluded in exploitation and trafficking and the horrendous abuse that comes with it.
Sexual included.
Because it actually isn't only women trafficked for the sex industry that are victims of sexual violence.

I'm sorry if that isn't what you want to hear, but it's the truth.

Anyone who engaged in any aspect of the man stream sex industry is running the risk of colluding in exploitation or trafficking. And an exploited or trafficked woman is not able to consent to sex.. I am sorry if that is something you don’t want to hear, but it’s the truth.

Just as anyone who partakes of so many other services other than watching porn that might also - just possibly - run the risk of involving exploitation ...something you seem to be ignoring. I am also sorry if that’s what you don’t want to hear, but it’s the truth.

@frostedviolets - yes, I know. Which is why I avoid these things as far as I can.

It strikes me as utterly bizarre that anyone can be as aware of the issues around trafficking and exploitation as you are and not think “Well, porn is one thing that is easy for me to give up, so I will”.

I mean, making a difference in all the other things you seem to regard as potential “gotchas” can actually require some effort or research. Giving up porn? Easy peasy. Swap to erotic fiction. Try it- you might like it.