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to feel like I really regret having kids

618 replies

SoFuckingTired · 29/10/2019 08:09

I know it's absolutely taboo. Millions of women would kill to have a family. But tbh, its just shit. I have a 4 year old who's being assessed for autism and a 2 year old that doesn't sleep.

I love both my children and would do anyt for them. But if I'm brutally honest, if I knew how shit and sleep deprived it was going to be, I wouldn't have done it.

So fucking tired. Every little thing is an effort. It's just shit.

OP posts:
QueenofmyPrinces · 29/10/2019 17:58

I crave both like you wouldn’t believe. I stay up too late every night because that’s the only way I can sit alone in silence and decompress.

No matter how tired I am I will always stay awake for hours after my children have gone to sleep because it’s the only time I get to enjoy silence. I stay up until 11pm most nights just so I can have some time to myself.

The thought of all my waking hours being filled with children is overwhelming and not something I could cope with.

Staying up so late means I usually only get 5-6 hours of broken sleep a night which definitely takes its toll, but I refuse to waste my child free nights by sleeping!!

nevergotthehangofthursdays · 29/10/2019 18:00

My kids (teens) know I love them to bits, but their early years are a blur of tiredness and struggle and performance anxiety. I have said to DD that I never regret having kids, but that parenting (or should that be motherhood, let's be honest) is basically slave labour, and it is quite possible to choose not to, if that is what you decide.

NigesFakeWalkingStick · 29/10/2019 18:01

This post has touched such a raw place in my heart because I fully, and unequivocally understand @SoFuckingTired and all the other mum/parents who feel this way.

Currently I can hear my beautiful 3 year old playing. It makes my heart soar with joy incomparable in my life. When he tells me I am his favourite, and he loves me, and when he's polite and kind, I've never known anything more wonderful. Sometimes I lay next to him at night and watch him sleep and I can feel that immeasurable contentment.

However - I struggle as a mum. I'm a natural introvert. I can't stand long periods of loud noises, too much company and constantly being on the go with menial tasks. Which is basically a description of motherhood. I didn't realise this before I had my son because quite simply, I'd never been in a situation where I was surrounded endlessly with children or the variables that make my teeth itch. I was mostly single, working hard, enjoying my own money and time. During that period I was desperate for something more - a meaning to my life, but I wasn't sold on the idea of having children at all.

It wasn't until I met my now ex DP where I considered it. I had two years of being a stepparent before falling pregnant. I loved every aspect of being a de facto parent (and frankly, I did far more of the share of parenting my DSS than my ex, which should have been a red flag) and I loved (and still love) my DSS immensely. I suddenly found a purpose and thought I'd definitely be equipped at being a parent, finally, at 30. I lost a baby, and that made my incurable need even stronger.

Then I fell pregnant and had a horrible pregnancy. My ex was already showing signs of not being the person I thought he was. I was alone again. I didn't really engage with many of the things pregnant women do (NCT etc). I retreated. My anxiety which had been dormant for years resurfaced. When my son was born I was scared shitless. I suddenly (and this mystifies me to this day, because I'm not what I consider to be naive) couldn't think why I'd done this. The responsibility was crushing.

I barely managed the first year. I was still with my ex but he was of no practical or emotional use and his abuse typically got worse. I didn't have any help. I muddled by, with post natal anxiety and OCD. I loved my son beyond belief but I missed my old life like a poisoned chalice round my neck. I went back to work when he was 11 months old to try and cure the void I felt. It didn't work - I just became more and more anxious, more and more tired, more and more fretful under the weight of the mental load.

I ended up having a huge mental breakdown last year. My anxiety was so bad I was nearly institutionalised as I was suicidal and unable to cope with the most basic of tasks. I felt such a crushing weight of responsibility that I'd let my son down. Me and my ex split because he 'couldn't cope' with me. Our relationship was behind salvageable. My son seemed to prefer my ex. I felt all Hope was lost and I should have never become a parent.

Fast forward to now - I had therapy and medical intervention. I quit work and did the thing that caused me the most stress - became a parent full time. I couldn't hide from it. I needed to become the parent I wanted to be. I get things wrong all the time. I have days where I hate it. I have days where I cry about the life I left behind, the relationship I loved, the friendships that have fallen, the job I was so good at. Sometimes I just want to throw my son up into the air and let him fall back down in a couple of hours so I can breathe. He's become predictably more clingy and needy of me, and whilst it stresses me out on the days where I need space, I secretly now love that. I love that he cuddles up to me in bed. I am desperate for a nights sleep uninterrupted but I can't begin to imagine him not in the bed now.

I'm crying as I write this. I never ever thought I could be this parent. I'm sorry for the length of this, and the stream of consciousness. But I absolutely feel this on so many levels.

formerbabe · 29/10/2019 18:01

I stay up too late every night because that’s the only way I can sit alone in silence and decompress

I understand. I find the school summer holidays the hardest part of the year...school is my only break from my dc. In the holidays, once they're in bed, I sit alone in my bedroom in the dark for a while. My oh will ask me to sit with him in the living room and watch tv but I really just need that time.

Samplesss · 29/10/2019 18:01

@OkayGoooouuuuuullllll I didn't mean it rudely btw, just that it helped me immensely. The costs are ridiculous aren't they!

Catsick36 · 29/10/2019 18:01

I am with you on that. These early years are shit.

SimonJT · 29/10/2019 18:06

@AnneLovesGilbert He would have been better off with a bigger family though, with me he’ll never have a mum/second parent, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins etc. As someone in that situation as an adult it isn’t ideal and it is fairly lonely.

He recently realised that people with aunts, uncles etc get xmas presents from them, he has decided I will have to buy him extra presents because of this 😂

GhoulieBat · 29/10/2019 18:08

I stay up too late every night because that’s the only way I can sit alone in silence and decompress

Yes me too! The introvert thing is so true - I love my DC so much and also like them and get on with them, but not getting as much time alone as I crave is endlessly exhausting. Just being talked to when I need headspace, and as a PP said, the need to "breathe" - mentally and physically. It also hugely affects my social life, because when I can get time off, I HAVE to spend most of it alone to recover, and friendships come way down the list.

I can be found at 1am most nights in bed reading or browsing the web (I know - no good for my sleep) though I have to get up before 7, just because it's time when I can have mental peace.

Wattagoose90 · 29/10/2019 18:08

I'm a new mum. I love my DS but every now and then I feel exactly the same. Luckily my husband is a diamond. He sensed how worked up I was tonight and I'm currently writing this from a bath with a cup of tea that he made me whilst he looks after our son.

Now I'm sat here realising how easy I have it in comparison.

I've no idea how single parents do it, it honestly baffles me. But my advice is, if you have another half, be honest and upfront and don't be afraid of saying you need a little "me time".

Keeping the balance keeps me sane.

Echobelly · 29/10/2019 18:10

I'm sorry it's so hard OP - it is totally fine to admit that it feels like too much and like the wrong call. I hope this passes and things improve for all of you.

nevergotthehangofthursdays · 29/10/2019 18:11

I have childfree friends, one couple who have a combination of HFA and bipolar between them to deal with, and one who has a medical condition whose treatment is incompatible with pregnancy (she is also not NT and because of this no employer will take her on). In both these cases, not having children was a rational and well thought through decision. I have no doubt these people would not have coped with parenthood.

OkayGoooouuuuuullllll · 29/10/2019 18:13

@Samplesss oh I know! It’s definitely in my sights. She will thrive at nursery now, but at the time she would come home having hardly slept, overtired and grumpy and I’d be shattered from work and stressed out from sitting in traffic to pick her up just before her bedtime and doing the work of 5 days in 3 for no money at all. It wasn’t any way to live so we made a change and it should be better once we’ve settled.

ShinyS1 · 29/10/2019 18:43

I have 2 DC, one just into their teens and one preteen. I adore them with all my heart and if anything happened to them I think I'd die from a broken heart on the spot.

Would I have kids if I could rewind time? Fuck. No.

Too hard, too stressful, too emotionally draining, too much drudgery.

The only thing I identify with is being someones Mum, I don't exist as an individual anymore. Parenthood for this generation requires you to give everything of yourself, and when you think you literally have nothing left to give, you have to give more. My marriage is basically two people that parent in the same house. We are too stressed and overwhelmed to acknowledge that we have our own needs and wants. Everything is about the DC. Admittedly our DC are pretty needy and difficult as kids go, not sure why.

Think carefully before choosing to have kids. Babysitting, working with kids, and being the favourite Auntie does not prepare you for the relentless emotional and physical onslaught that is having your own.

Sorry for the negativity, but fuck me, it's hard.

angell84 · 29/10/2019 18:46

I do think that society told women:

Having children is the norm
If you don't , you are not doing your service as a woman 😒

We need to change that.

Women need to be taught that it is FIRMLY their choice. And that you do NOT have to have children

Shadowboy · 29/10/2019 18:49

Wow. It’s actually good to hear this from someone else. I too adore my children but if I had known how broke, tired, stressed and unhappy my life is since I had kids; I wouldn’t have had the first (second was an accident!) I am so tired having not had a night without being woken up for 6 years. I’m fed up of the bickering and constant noise. I am skint from nursery/wrap around care etc that total more than my mortgage. I also think of all the friends lost due to lack of time and finances and the hobbies dropped over the years due to lack of time. But I do love my children- just wish the pressure that women are still expected to have kids would disappear.

angell84 · 29/10/2019 18:50

@SimonJT he might be better off without any aunts and uncles!

I am thinking of my own aunts and uncles, and my friend's aunts and uncles, who are AWFUL

Samplesss · 29/10/2019 18:51

Not true with the people I know, a mixture of childfree (by choice, a few heartbreakingly without choice) and parents. I didn't feel pressured, if anything because of my career etc I felt more pressure not to.

areyoubeingserviced · 29/10/2019 19:04

I don’t regret having my dc, but I can definitely understand why people do.
It’s the sheer mental load. Being responsible for another human beings needs and wants
It can truly be a thankless task

DuploRelatedInjury · 29/10/2019 19:07

I feel similarly in similar circumstances to you - I have a 5yo who was diagnosed with autism last year and a demanding 2yo who sleeps badly and still feeds to sleep of a night. I can't take both DC out without a second adult with me and it's a rare day where we don't have a violent meltdown over something. DH works long hours, some nights and weekends as well as training and conferences so day to day it's largely down to me. It's relentless and exhausting and I often fantasise about not having children. I love them both but I can't honestly say my life is better as it's just so hard, but as you say were not allowed to say that. I'm ashamed to say that I massively fear that DC1 will never be independent, and that this will be it for the rest of my life. I feel at breaking point a lot of the time.

Mymomsbetterthanyomom · 29/10/2019 19:14

You're not remotely brave!

onionandsage · 29/10/2019 19:21

The thing is if I hadn't had kids, I'd be sad because I always felt I wanted them. I would probably not appreciate the freedoms and money I'd have as much as I should - I'd feel I was missing out. It's a paradox.

@GhoulieBat I'm currently pregnant with my first and this totally sums it up for me.

Parenthood for this generation requires you to give everything of yourself

I also agree with this. I know my grandparents had tough lives in many ways, but it seemed like children back then were expected to fit in with their parents' lives, compared with now where it's often the other way round and parenthood seems all consuming. There just seems so much pressure to be the "perfect parent" now - maybe it's down to social media as much as anything or maybe I'm completely imagining it, I don't know. I do know I'm already feeling the pressure and my child isn't even born yet.

BooseysMom · 29/10/2019 19:26

My husband wants to have 3 kids. He can have three with his next wife.

Well said pp! My DH would have more if he could. But at 47 my time is up. We have a 6yo DS who's more than enough for me thank you. The pp who said that there is too much pressure on people to have more than one kid is spot on. We always meant to have more but that never happened and i think i'm relieved i stuck at one!

Samplesss · 29/10/2019 19:32

@formerbabe but it's not selfish to spend money on yourself or to do things for yourself. That attitude is why so many people find parenthood so stifling. As long as they're not missing out because money is short where you're spending it all, or you going out is putting them in some sort of danger then please do it. People who do this are not selfish.

moita · 29/10/2019 19:33

It doesn't end for those who have children that can never be independent.

This. My daughter has complex needs and although she will be independent when she's older she has a disability and a health condition which impact on her life greatly (and always will). The worry is enormous. She's only a toddler but I worry about her future.

I love my children but my god is it hard. The guilt and responsibility can be overwhelming.

They are loved beyond measure but being a mother has been without doubt the hardest thing I've ever done. And I have a supportive DH and family - god knows how I would have coped if I'd have no support like so many women.

Phew feels good to let that out. My daughter's incredible but I feel like I have to always talk about the positives of have a SEN child when actually it's bloody hard.

NoFun21 · 29/10/2019 19:38

I regret it also for their sakes as the world is a very frightening old daughter at the moment with climate change etc I have a child with asd and a 2 year old too and everything hurts physically -it’s like Groundhog Day- li understand.