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To think MN is at risk of becoming a Mean Girls bitchfest

213 replies

Sparklfairy · 28/10/2019 09:32

Flame me if you want, but I've been shocked lately at how OPs are being attacked when they post on here.

This isn't a TAAT, it's a general trend of spewing vitriol and being downright nasty in the name of being 'blunt' or 'telling it like it is'.

MN was always the place we could go for honest opinions and different points of view. A fantastic support when people are caught up in bad relationships and can't see the wood from the trees or a way out.

More commonly though I see a pack mentality developing where one poster will make a snide comment and then others pile in. It's no better than playground bullying. Reminds me of mean girls. If you don't write a certain way, use the 'right' MN terms, if you're new and don't know the right MN etiquette yet, and god forbid you don't use perfect grammar, then somehow you don't fit in here and therefore deserve to be called names, mocked and bullied by strangers.

People post on forums like these, especially when new here, when theyre out of options. They don't want to or can't talk to people in RL and want to reach out. I know how it feels to be horribly isolated in a shitty situation and if I'd posted here and received half the abuse I've seen on some threads it could well have pushed me over the edge.

I love reading threads where a woman has got out of a shitty relationship as a result of the support she's read here. But when she's at her lowest, a few shitty comments attacking her for no reason can stop that happening.

By all means, say what you think. But name calling doesn't help. If you have advice, offer it, but berating someone's life choices is simply kicking someone when they're down because you can. And that makes you no better than the bastards some of these women are married to/partnered with.

And before anyone says 'if you don't like MN then leave'. If I did that there would be fewer of us to call this shit out.

OP posts:
Leighhalfpennysthigh · 30/10/2019 11:34

cheerleader posters for suggesting a more measured approach that would get a better outcome is ridiculous.

Oh god this. It has happened to me and a few others on a thread ages ago where we strayed from the accepted truth (which probably wasn't the truth at all).

I posted a while ago about my relationship and our future marriage because I was feeling a bit insecure in our choices and wanted to have an anonymous chat. I was just left feeling even more insecure and nearly called off the whole thing on the basis of a few comments from people who don't know me, don't know him and don't know our relationship. My sister and mother in ,aw talked sense into me and all was ok, but I do worry about some of the advice vulnerable people get on here as it seems that some of it is given so that the drama can continue rather than any real need to help the poster.

I'm also completely sick of those faux innocent why are childless people on MN threads that appear on a weekly basis. It always ends up the same with people like me having to defend our rights to comment on an anonymous Internet forum because we never reproduced. Fucks sake.

And finally. I don't subscribe to this blanket women must support women, sisterhood nonsense. Most of the shittiest comments, judgemental bullshit and downright nastiness in my life have come from women. Some women, like some men, are dicks and need pulling up on their behaviour.

CantSayJack · 30/10/2019 11:42

YANBU

I couldn’t agree more, I’ve posted on here before only to be attacked by what can only be described as trolls. No help or advice just bitching behind a screen, it’s become a vipers nest. What if posters have mental health issues? They ask for advice only to be attacked, mocked and taken the piss out of. It’s not on.

bringincrazyback · 30/10/2019 12:46

I couldn't agree more, OP. Well said.

LuluBellaBlue · 30/10/2019 12:52

@Sparklfairy I totally agree with you and have been thinking this too.

I wonder what the solution is?

Maybe Lovenet - where only loving supportive words and encouragement are allowed?!

NoSauce · 30/10/2019 12:55

Maybe Lovenet - where only loving
supportive words and encouragement are allowed?!

How would that work? People disagree with others a lot of the time. That’s normal human behaviour. Just don’t be mean about it.

Freya009 · 30/10/2019 13:09

Exactly NoSauce. I agree with you

bringincrazyback · 30/10/2019 13:12

I think AIBU is different

The trouble is that posts outside of AIBU have a tendency to go unseen because AIBU dominates. I often feel it's pointless posting anywhere other than AIBU if I actually want my posts to be seen.

Butterflyone12e · 30/10/2019 14:18

I couldn't agree more. I was telling my fiancé how bad it is here and I'd never ask for advice on something truly important as people are not nice at all.

Step mums get the worse rap ever! Even worse than the ex Dads.

Euromillsplz · 30/10/2019 14:28

Have only read your opening post OP, but well said 👏👏

I've often thought the same- one person makes a harsh comment then others follow like sheep. Then, once it gets too fierce and someone points this out- all of a sudden, surprise surprise, people are falling over themselves to be nice (which is better, but still!)

And sorry, haters, but all this unnecessary 'D' in front of everything ain't for me!

PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 30/10/2019 14:31

I have been here 10 years and I don't think it's changed all that much. In fact, if anything it's become a bit more 'hun' in the last few years.

lolaflores · 30/10/2019 17:39

Reading a thread on AIBU and its appalling the language used towards the op. Too many to report...so I get the feeling the hands are off the wheel at HQ. Really unpleasant comments. Perhaps OP was in the wrong place for her question I reported 1 comments but there was a load of others that were over the top, in my view, proportional to the question.
Its disheartening.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 30/10/2019 17:47

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that for the most part I see intelligent, lucid, honest comments from posters looking to offer support.

Obviously there are arseholes on here as in every walk of life, but Mumsnet on the whole is a breath of fresh air given the alternatives; all the hugs, huns and kisses don't undo the fact that some people need straight-talking and direct answers when it comes to help. And there must be something that posters get out of it or it would have died a death by now.

I like Mumsnet. I've posted here a few times and had nothing but brilliant support. I don't jump on bandwagons or join pack mentality, but nor do I offer hugs when a poster needs practical, honest advice. The whole "Mumsnet is x, y and z" thing does a disservice to what Mumsnet can actually offer.

lolaflores · 30/10/2019 18:13

I have read such excellent and clear headed responses from people born out of experience or specialising in certain fields. I have seen people show the greatest compassion for total strangers. Personally, I have learned so much and received kindness and understanding from others and i have tried to hand that on. If it's all getting shouty, I will leave. And o report what I see.

I have also read horrible, spiteful, personal comments that were unnecessary and bore no relation to the topic in hand. And been on the receiving end. On occasion i have been upset as a comment delivered in the spirit of "plain speaking" can sometimes land awkwardly. That is unintentional.
Then there are those who are here for the mill. No two ways and it does a disservice to the majority, it makes people feel unsafe and silenced.

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