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To say no to friend

165 replies

Silentlysinking101 · 25/10/2019 07:53

Apologies... This may be long as probably need to set scene so as not to drip feed.

Friend and have known each other since school, fairly close until university (days before mobiles were an everyone thing) when her course took her abroad. We lost touch and then recently reestablished contact after bumping into each other at her place of work.

As I recall her relationship with her parents was always strained, in her opinion they always favoured her older sibling. I don't recall ever meeting them more than once or twice so I couldn't judge if she was being melodramatic or not.

We are now adults approaching our 40's. I have had a couple of ltr's, married and divorced, am now a single parent although in a long distance relationship. She has never really had a partner, has all the free time in the world, does volunteering work with a big organisation (I do a lot of volunteering with a different organisation) and it is pretty much her only topic of conversation.

So... I have recently been able to buy my own house due to a very generous gift from my dad (he did similar years ago for my sibling) I am eternally grateful! I live in an area where house prices are low in comparison to most of the UK so was able to buy a large 3 bed terrace for dd and I. I love it! After some very unstable years it is the anchor I needed and has been a game changer for my mental health and my dd.

There is just the 2 of us at home, boyfriend visits most weekends, sometimes in the week depending on his work schedule. So I have a 'spare' bedroom. It is currently a bit of a junk room, we only moved in a few weeks ago so it's full of boxes in haven't sorted yet, stuff that needs to be put in the attic when I brave opening the hatch.

Friend is having a rough time, she lives with her parents, has done for the last 15+ years, they don't get on. From the stories she regails me with I have a huge degree of sympathy for her parents. At 40 she is still acting like a stroppy 16 year old, rebellious and down right rude and disrespectful. I haven't said this to her though. Her mum has basically told her she needs to leave sooner rather than later.

She can't afford to rent as only works part time on a low wage. She wants to try for a mortgage, good on her if she gets it it is cheaper than renting but honestly knowing her salary I think it is unlikely that with no savings she will get enough to buy what she wants. However, I have given her the details of my mortgage advisor and helped her look at what could be in her budget.

So... My aibu boils down to this... Friend came to visit the other day, having realised I have 3 bedrooms and 1 not in use she has decided that it is now her room and is going on about me sorting it out whilst I am off work (have half term off with dd) so she can move in.

I thought she was joking and just laughed a bit. She apparently wasn't joking and is now asking how much her rent would be, share of bills etc. I have said it would be zero because I'm sorry you aren't moving in, dd and I enjoy having the house to ourselves, I don't want a lodger. I have a busy job, Ed has complex health issues and I really hated house sharing at uni and have no desire to ever do it again! It is the fastest way to kill a friendship. She is calling me a cow and whinging that I am being unfair, her life at home is shit and she is being made homeless by her mum etc and basically laying on the guilt trip.

Aibu in saying no? The stories she tells me about her parents fill me with horror. If she is genuinely behaving in the way she makes out I don't blame her mum for throwing her out. I don't want or need the stress.

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Berthatydfil · 25/10/2019 08:10

Can you use the spare room as an office or hobby room eg if you sew etc, a walk in wardrobe, ironing room, tv room/ lounge/study for your dd etc
Basically make it as un bedroom like as possible.

If she continues to abuse you like this then I think you should withdraw from her. Your certainly not responsible for her living arrangements.

Brefugee · 25/10/2019 08:10

She's not a friend. Tell her to stop going on about it. And if she doesn't, ditch her. Tell her you are ditching her. And enjoy your lovely house with your DD.

Karwomannghia · 25/10/2019 08:10

glad you said no clearly from the outset. She could rent a room in a shared house elsewhere? Anyway I’m sure she’s aware of this. Don’t let her stay, not even for one night you’ll never get rid of her!

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/10/2019 08:11

Don’t let her move in or even stay a night. No reason for her to work part time either. Encourage her to look for more hours and contact the council if made homeless, that’s all you need do

SingingLily · 25/10/2019 08:11

Please don't even think about offering her a bed for a couple of nights as a gesture of sympathy. As a PP pointed out, she would never leave. She'd think she had acquired squatter's rights.

She hasn't ever taken responsibility for herself, has she? Her parents have had enough.

Not your problem.

NotStayingIn · 25/10/2019 08:11

Oh my god no no no no no. You are definitely not been unreasonable.

Also don’t ever even let her stay for one night, you’ll never get rid of her.

Slyfox69 · 25/10/2019 08:12

No is a sentence.

SMaCM · 25/10/2019 08:12

Say no. Don't put a bed in there. Make it in to a playroom, or study, or whatever you like. Have a sofa bed in there for if anyone comes to stay, but I wouldn't even let her stay one night in these circumstances. How can she pay rent when she hasn't managed to save a deposit while living with her parents?

Monny1 · 25/10/2019 08:13

No, No and No! Do not let her move in with you and your DD. She will never leave and you will definitely regret it. I think it is disgusting that she had the cheek to call you a cow! To be honest, l would call her out on that and then block her. You don’t need friends like that in your life.l am glad that you have a roof over your head for you and your daughter.Enjoy your house with people that love and respect you.

Thatnovembernight · 25/10/2019 08:13

No! You’d never get rid of her (aside from the fact it would be a bad idea even as a temporary measure). I wouldn’t be surprised if her desperate parents are pushing this idea.
Just stand firm and tell her that now you are a parent with a young child your house share days are well behind you. If she carries on I think you’ll have to avoid her completely. She sounds a nightmare.

CalmdownJanet · 25/10/2019 08:14

Look let's me honest here, not only would I not want to live with her, I also wouldn't want her as a friend so next time her texts just be brutally honest.

"Mary you are not living with us, not now not ever. Does that make me a cow? I don't care but this has certainly shown you for the whiney user you are. Not only do I not want to live with you but I want absolutely zero contact or friendship for you." Then block her.

Mammylamb · 25/10/2019 08:15

Yanbu. Can’t believe you need to ask

Disfordarkchocolate · 25/10/2019 08:16

Say no, and slowly start being less available. If she can afford to rent a room of you she can afford to rent a room from someone else.

thebear1 · 25/10/2019 08:17

She is 40, she could have made life choices so she didn't have to live with her parents. Where she lives is not your problem. Stick to your guns.

MyKingdomForBrie · 25/10/2019 08:18

She sounds horrendous! Well done you on being clear and asserting yourself.

KnickerBockerAndrew · 25/10/2019 08:21

Of course she can't move in. She doesn't sound like a nice person, and tbh you sound like you strongly dislike her. That's fair enough of course, but I think it's kinder to her to terminate the friendship- it's really not nice for her to have a mate that doesn't like her. And why would you waste your time anyway?

Silentlysinking101 · 25/10/2019 08:23

Thank you. I was worried I was being mean. She does have redeeming qualities but I just don't want to live with anyone!

I did suggest that she should start looking for a new job, she works for NHS in some sort of admin role I think but from what I can gather it's 2 different contracts but each is only about 10-12 hours a week. Her liklihood of getting a mortgage is pretty low, but I am happy to help her job hunt, sort her cv etc. I have been senior management for a few years but when dds health started to get worse and we had to take some drastic steps I took a step back career wise so I could be a mum more. I work 40+ hours a week, my mum helps with dd on my days and school holidays and her dad and I share custody 50/50... I like the days she is with her dad, I can eat what I want without having to share it, I can shower in peace, I can watch crap on the TV that isn't YouTube unboxing shite....

I think she sees me as being selfish. To be honest I am, but I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing

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eddielizzard · 25/10/2019 08:25

Absolutely not! It might be time to recreate that distance in your friendship again...

Whattodoabout · 25/10/2019 08:26

Of course you aren’t selfish not to want a lodger in your home. She’d most likely never leave even if you only let her stay for a few days so don’t run the risk at all, stay strong. I’d personally block her number.

DonkeyHotty · 25/10/2019 08:27

Oh FFS. Surely the way in which she is behaving now MUST reinforce that the very last thing you should do is allow her to move in! Op you are not being mean, she sounds like an absolute nightmare. I do pity her parents though! They must be desperate for her to move in with you!

Pancakeflipper · 25/10/2019 08:27

No. Its your home.

She won't be fun to live with.

saraclara · 25/10/2019 08:27

God no. She sounds horrible. In fact I'd be worried about even letting her through the front door again.

If you want to keep meeting her (though I wouldn't) I'd do it at a coffee place. I wouldn't put it past her to turn up with a suitcase next time she comes to your house

Pharlapwasthebest · 25/10/2019 08:28

You are not selfish, it’s is not selfish to recognise that youneed to have time alone, it is not selfish to want your house to you and your daughter, it is not selfish to not want someone like that living with you, the thought of it filled me with dread, and I was only reading about it on the internet.
You have to put yourself and your daughter first, not some selfish immature woman child.

Silentlysinking101 · 25/10/2019 08:29

@knickerbockerandrew I don't dislike her, I dislike some of her behaviour but that's a different thing. I just think she is stuck in a rut and is reverting to her 16 year old self.

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Whomei · 25/10/2019 08:30

Of course YANBU. Loads of people have spare rooms in their house. Doesn't mean they're obliged to let any random person take it