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Tipping. Don’t find my friends ‘joke’ funny, AIBU

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yadayadayesokay · 24/10/2019 04:29

A friend of mine who lives far away has come to stay with me for a few nights. We went out for a meal together last night (which she insisted on paying for at the end as a thanks for hosting her, if that has any relevance).

When we sat down I had a brief panic, thinking that I didn’t have any cash to pay for a tip at the end of the meal and rummaged through my handbag. She said not to worry as she had cash, but it turns out I had enough anyway.

We then had a conversation about tipping and she told me that she very rarely does and I was surprised, and told her I always pay at least 10% and would feel embarrassed not to. I also told her that my partner and I usually end up arguing about tipping because he is against it and when I put money down he has in the past picked some back up, saying that it’s too much. I told her this really pisses me off and embarrasses me.

Anyway when the bill comes she hands over £2 for the tip and I go to put mine down too, she raises her eyebrows and says something about it being a lot as I’m counting pound coins to put it down, so I feel pressured to match her and only put £2.50 down, the meal was £58 so this is less than I would like to tip. The service was good.

Sometime later when we are almost back to the car she says ‘you’re going to kill me’ and laughs, telling me that she picked up the tip money so we didn’t leave any. I obviously didn’t look impressed and she said she did it to annoy me and to ‘be funny’ and offered me my money back. I said I don’t want it, it was intended for the person who served us. She asked me if I was pissed off and I said yes.

The atmosphere on the way home was a bit awkward but I tried my best to just ignore what had happened and talk about other things, but I got the feeling she thought I was being humourless and there was definitely an atmosphere afterwards. AIBU to not see any humour in what she did?

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TheZeppo · 24/10/2019 06:51

It’s not the actually tipping part that made me vote YANBU. It’s the fact you already told her you and your partner argue over it. She knew it would make you cross and did it anyway, which makes me think she is a dick!

user1493413286 · 24/10/2019 06:52

Whatever her views on tipping it’s really weird that you told her about something that annoys you and causes arguments and then she did it.

Mummimum · 24/10/2019 06:53

Most people on a minimum wage also have to get benefits to survive and there have just been many articles in the newspapers about the "working poor" about the very high number of working people who have to rely on food banks, so many of the posters on this thread are woefully misinformed.

Icantbelieveitsnotnutter · 24/10/2019 06:56

I think your friend sounds disrespectful and childish. I'd be giving her a wide berth, ugh.

LilyAraminta · 24/10/2019 06:56

I'm American, so I can't imagine not tipping (and I carry this habit overseas when I travel), but that isn't the point is it? You expressed that you prefer to tip, shared that your partner does X behavior related to tipping that bothers you, put down your own money for a tip and then she does exactly what you shared bothers you when it comes to your partner and tipping? That's just lame and rude. I loathe passive aggressive moves cloaked as "jokes."

Stuckinanutshell · 24/10/2019 06:58

She was wrong. Without a doubt.

But - could it be like the scene in friends where Rachel’s dad pays for the whole meal and Ross puts down the tip? It caused a whole argument because the dad paid for everything as a niceness gesture and Ross paid only 20% and was seen as the ‘hero’.

Now, I don’t agree with this personally but I’m wondering if the friend was a bit pissed off that she had done a nice thing in paying for the meal and you might have seemed judgemental in putting down the tip - implying she was cheap etc?

Again, no excuses at all but I’m just wondering if she was making a point beyond a ‘joke’?

sandgrown · 24/10/2019 07:01

I went to a birthday meal with about 20 others. All in well paid jobs. The service was exceptional . The waiter went above and beyond to ensure we had a good night. When the bill was split there was no mention of a tip and there did not appear to be a service charge added. I asked about a tip and a few people gave the odd 50p. I was really embarrassed at how tight they were. I gave the waiter my own tip as I left and thanked him. I also reviewed the restaurant and gave the waiter a specific mention.

OneTerrificMouse · 24/10/2019 07:01

Things have moved on from then and we now have a minimum wage, service charges often taken by the management, tips taxed and shared amongst the kitchen staff and all sorts of arrangements which are not clear to the paying customer who wants to reward good service

The bad old days when there was poverty eh?=. Thank goodness theres none of that around these days, phew!

Oh, hang on...

Pinkyyy · 24/10/2019 07:05

Stealing from wait staff isn't funny

Not giving someone what is basically a gift, isn't the same as stealing.

Witchinaditch · 24/10/2019 07:10

Regardless of if you agree with tipping or not the point here is you explained that something your boyfriend did upsets you and embarrasses you, she should then respect you enough not to do the exact same thing.

Soontobe60 · 24/10/2019 07:17

How rude of your friend!
I almost always leave a tip, unless the food or service has been poor. I don't leave a set percentage though. Usually a few quid. If in a big group, we would all chip in a pound. If out with my family, I usually pay and tell the others to leave a tip, which they always do.
In taxis I will tell the driver to keep the change. I never tip my hairdresser, and have never tipped staff in a hotel (except a hotel porter in Sri Lanka who insisted on carrying my bag to my room and stood there with his hand out until I realised what he wanted🤣).

LIttleMissTickles · 24/10/2019 07:20

@FuriousVexation you definitely don't need to tip your physio!! That's like tipping your GP or your lawyer!

Lazypuppy · 24/10/2019 07:21

She was BU to takr the money but i also think you are BU to always tips 10% regardless of the service you receive.

Fourcandlesx · 24/10/2019 07:21

Stuckinanutshell has hit the nail on the head I think- that's a phrase I never thought I would say!

I think she might possibly have been offended that she paid £58 for a meal and felt you were suggesting she was being cheap by not leaving a tip.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 24/10/2019 07:23

She was in the wrong but just misjudged the joke.

I rarely tip though, only if excellent service or they go above and beyond. Never really understood why people do as you pay for a meal, haircut, taxi ride anyway and the employee is receiving a salary. Gifting people who help us or our children like club volunteers is more important to us as most don’t get paid or do way more than their job description.

LittleDancers · 24/10/2019 07:27

Your friend shouldn't have touched your money left for the waitress. If she wanted to not tip herself she should have picked up her own tip.

However your comment "I always pay at least 10% and would feel embarrassed not to." does make me think that you are more concerned about how it looks rather than actually tipping for good service. Maybe this is what your DH and DF are picking up on.

If you want to tip all the time, fine, it's your money .But it's not the end of the world if on occasion you don't, or if you don't have quite the right money to leave 10%. I would relax about it more.

IdiotInDisguise · 24/10/2019 07:28

Her problem if she doesn’t find you funny. I will be locking the silver and keeping my eyes on my belongings. Fancy stealing the waiter’s money for “fun”.

I live in an area where hardly anyone tips, sometimes I don’t and I am not ashamed of it but there is a huge difference between not tipping and stealing the money other people has left for the waiter.

BlaueLagune · 24/10/2019 07:30

I think she was mean to do what she did.

But I don't like tipping unless I can be sure the person who served me actually gets it, and not half all of it going to management. I know some places share with the kitchen staff too, and I suppose they did the more skilled part of cooking the meal, but then they get paid more than the waiting staff, too.

Also agree with the pp who asked why waiting staff get tips, and not, for example, retail staff. And I've never tipped my hairdresser, I didn't realise it was even a thing, but anyway, I suspect she earns more than I do!

BlaueLagune · 24/10/2019 07:32

I don't get hung up on the 10% thing either. In some other countries they just round up, so you win some, you lose some.

If eg it's £8.50 and you give them £10 and say keep the change, they've done ok. But if it's £9.70 and you say keep the change, not so much.

Shoxfordian · 24/10/2019 07:32

She was really rude. Why were you contributing to the tip anyway if she was buying you dinner?! I always tip at least 10%

seaweedandmarchingbands · 24/10/2019 07:33

She is deeply tight and that isn’t a “joke” at all.

ScreamingCosArgosHaveNoRavens · 24/10/2019 07:35

I think your friend's behaviour is both childish and controlling. By taking the tip money, she took away your choice whether to tip or not.

If she didn't want to leave a tip, she should have said so, and left it up to you whether you wanted to leave one separately.

I'd be very uncomfortable with a 'friend' who played a nasty trick on me (because that's what it amounts to).

BoomBoomsCousin · 24/10/2019 07:35

Since you’d just told her your DP does this and it embarrasses you I can see why she might think of it as a “joke” if you have the sort of relationship where you embarrass each other in public and take it as good fun. She got it wrong but if that’s your type of relationship I don’t think it’s particularly far out there.

If you don’t have that type of relationship it’s not a joke in any way. But if she was paying for the whole meal it’s kind of rude for you to put down a tip because you don’t think she’s given enough so maybe she was trying to push back against that.

Thatnovembernight · 24/10/2019 07:36

I always leave the tip in cash and not added on to the card payment for the meal as I don’t trust it will actually get back to the staff. Does anyone know how it really works when the tip is taken from your card? I don’t know if I’m just being paranoid!

emilybrontescorsett · 24/10/2019 07:36

The point is she has overidden you and treated you like a child.
It doesn’t matter whether she believes in tipping or not. You wanted to leave a tip, she had no right to contradict you and treat you like a toddler needing to be shown the ‘correct’ way of doing things.
FWIW im not a big tipper and did not like the expected to tip mentality of the USA when I was there.
I do tip if the service is very good and the meal isn’t overpriced and I have enough cash.
But your friend would seriously annoy me with that attitude.

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