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Brexit postponed

654 replies

MarianaMoatedGrange · 19/10/2019 21:08

AIBU to worry that the (almost certain) delay in Brexit will give rise to civil unrest?

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timshelthechoice · 20/10/2019 19:33

Wow, so those millions are going to keep the power supply on and the pipelines flowing when the shit hits the fan? I'll look to them when the prices of everything rise 40% in record time and I can't afford to heat my home.

Roussette · 20/10/2019 19:35

Do you honestly think the UK had no employment law before the EU?

I can tell you there was little back in th 70s. I'm older than a lot on here and I was working then. The treatment of part time workers and what employers did to get rid of someone was absolutely shocking. So do remember that the EU has brought us a whole raft of protections.

I don't think you will see workers rights disappear. The US has no paid holidays, we do. We have a minimum wage.
The NHS has to change, care for the elderly needs to change as we will have more retired folk. We will have to train more Doctors and Nurses.
Leaving will force this

This is probably one of the most ridiculous posts I've read about Brexit. It's on a par with a poster who has given up with her Mum's views on Brexit when she said 'at least if we come out, we can stop paying all the pensions of the old people in Europe'.

Really, mummy you need to educate yourself a bit more. The US is gagging to get a hold of our NHS. To privatise, to force private insurance.
p.s. make the most of your 20 days or whatever you get holiday. That can easily be reduced with no protections in place.

theunknownknown · 20/10/2019 19:35

safety it is exactly that - a race to the bottom. We've heard it a million gazillion times around things like gold plated pensions. Rather than mobilise and fight for better rights, they want others to be dragged down as well.
Thank you Monestasi I am tired as well, but the anger in me at the stupidity of people who have no idea what they have voted for is staggering.

mummmy2017 · 20/10/2019 19:36

Monestasi do you so dislike people who don't agree with you then.
I have many friends , so your loss is fine.

DarkAtEndOfUk · 20/10/2019 19:37

Still no answer to "how"?

Roussette · 20/10/2019 19:39

Thanks Monestasi

unknown I think there are more sinister reasons as well for wanting out of EU. I agree about wanting to drag everyone else down and that is envy.

And envy is one of the worst vices.

mummmy2017 · 20/10/2019 19:43

DarkAtEndOfUk how ?
Nothing is settled yet, so how can there be an answer?

BertrandRussell · 20/10/2019 19:48

What are you hoping for, @mummmy2017?

DarkAtEndOfUk · 20/10/2019 19:48

In other words, leavers have no reason for blithe assumptions that all will magically be better.

So why don't you accept any of the solid and provable evidence remainers produce showing and demonstrating the myriad ways in which life will be made worse?

Roussette · 20/10/2019 19:51

Nothing is settled yet, so how can there be an answer?

So why don't you accept any of the solid and provable evidence remainers produce showing and demonstrating the myriad ways in which life will be made worse?

Exactly. And it isn't just their thoughts or assumptions, it's reviews and reports by experts that are out there if anyone was concerned enough

mummmy2017 · 20/10/2019 19:53

Because I want to leave.
I will never get another chance to get out.

BertrandRussell · 20/10/2019 19:54

But why do you want to leave so much? How will your life be better?

DarkAtEndOfUk · 20/10/2019 19:54

What is it you want to leave?

mummmy2017 · 20/10/2019 19:56

I the UK to no longer be a member of the EU.
I legally voted for this.

Limitedsimba123 · 20/10/2019 19:56

How do you see leaving the EU will result in an improvement to your circumstances though mummy?

Hoooo · 20/10/2019 19:57

mummy
I wish you luck, I really do.
But I despise your attitude to those who think this will be disastrous (yes, those pesky experts!)
Ah well, I'm sure Vera on facebook will be able to knock up some radioactive isotopes in her shed should you ever need radiotherapy, eh?
I'm horrified you consider your childrens furture is worth it - for some intangible "new albion" that never did and never will exist...
But I despise you and your ilk for doing this to my children.
You will NEVER except responsibility for it, either.
I'd love to know exactly who you people will blame once you can't blame the EU for your woes?

GreenishMe · 20/10/2019 19:57

I think there are more sinister reasons as well for wanting out of EU. I agree about wanting to drag everyone else down and that is envy.
And envy is one of the worst vices.

Wow! Did you really just say that?? Millions of people were so jealous of you, they plotted to drag you down to their level .....and you think you're high enough above them to be dragged in a downwards direction do you? Vile.

timshelthechoice · 20/10/2019 19:57

I'm still waiting, since we're some big thing and not just 'a dot of nothingness', can someone name me one thing, just one, that the UK has to offer that any other country needs/finds essential that they cannot find somewhere else and probably for cheaper.

timshelthechoice · 20/10/2019 19:58

Upon leaving, of course, because I can't see a single positive from leaving.

mummmy2017 · 20/10/2019 19:59

So what your saying is that your allowed, but I'm not . Nice

Hoooo · 20/10/2019 19:59

mummy the referendum was advisory.
Ironically, if it had been legally binding it would have been declared null and void due to leave.eu breaking electoral law!
Oh well, who cares, eh?
Facts! Pppfft
Data! Ha!

theunknownknown · 20/10/2019 19:59

Roussette there absolutely are, and they are not even secret. The referendum campaign clearly clearly stated the aims of reducing red tape, making the UK a global competitor blah blah blah.
de Pfeffel Johnson has to deliver for Trump.
If there was any doubt, just think about Trump hosting the gurning Farage within hours of becoming president. Don't these people ask why?
I've got to the point where I try hard not to care about leavers and the shitty mess they are going to be in but I can't stop because they are dragging all of us with them.

BertrandRussell · 20/10/2019 19:59

“ I the UK to no longer be a member of the EU.
I legally voted for this.”
Absolutely you did. Can you say how you think it will make your life better?

DarkAtEndOfUk · 20/10/2019 20:02

I've asked similar things before too timshelthechoice. Never got an answer to that either. Name one country we don't already trade with and name what you want to trade with them.

So mummy specifically - what is it about the EU you want to leave? The easy access to the food we cannot grow ourselves, the employment protections, the environmental protections, the privacy protections, the coming tax-avoidance laws? The example of more socialist democratic countries that can produce health care and affordable public transport?

Mamamia456 · 20/10/2019 20:02

Hooo - Where have you read that all our employment rights will be gone if we leave the EU?