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Being an older parent is hard as fuck.

316 replies

Oldasfuck · 17/10/2019 11:18

We had babies in our 40s.

We are grateful. Of course we are. But fuuuuuuuuck, we feel about a thousand years old in terms of energy. Pretty sure we wouldn't be this destroyed if it was just the two of us. Our lives are just about surviving.

Am not explaining this well. And will await the barrage of "Well at least you're not infertile/a single parent". Yep I know. First World problems and all that.

But I didnt feel this exhausted when we were trying to conceive. We felt pretty good back then. Like we were still in our thirties! Everything was awesome! We had parents and friends and hey, even a social life!

Parents were elderly sure, but we were so happy to give them grandchildren. 3 out of 4 gone now in the space of 4 years.

Friends are busy with their own kids, everyone always so busy. Lots of friends have teenagers, chuckle indulgently at how old and fucked we look cos they went through it too - yeah, but at 32!

No energy to have sex, no energy to have hobbies, no energy left after work and creche and Big School and nappies and toilet training and trying to get dummies out of mouths and trying to make dinners everyone will eat but nobody does.

No family, no cousins, no wider circle. The worry of them not making connections, the worry of having to make them join clubs or they'll have nobody, the worry one of us will get something bad in our 50s and the kids won't even have finished school yet. The worry about having to make enough money to take care of ourselves in old age cos older parents = early burden. It is just us 4. It is so small. I worry they will feel the claustrophobia. Its not my fault, but actually maybe it is, for not having them 10 years ago when cousins were younger and friends kids were younger.

We look at each other and know there's no safety net. It's scary. School want to assed eldest for sensory issues. Am terrified. I feel old as hell.

We try to be kind to each other, we are OK at that. But I wish we were younger. We would get out of bed quicker, we would move faster, we re just so tired all the time. He thinks he has arthritis in his hands now, jesus that's something that old people have. We both wear varifocals now. And one still in nappies who still wakes up in the night half the time - why didn't we foresee this??! We thought we would feel young forever.

I ask colleagues on Monday what did you do over the weekend? "Oh we brought the kids up to grandma's for Sunday roast, what did you do?" "Oh nothing much, went to the playground/the beach, no didn't meet up with any family, no"

Why don't people talk about this? It makes a difference - 35 to 45. It really does. You lose so much family. You lose so much energy.its so hard.

I don't even want to read this back, it probably is ungrateful.

OP posts:
Nettleskeins · 17/10/2019 17:47

Floradix doesn't have Vitamin D in it! Although it has the B vits.

I have quite a few friends who despite being a bit younger when they started families, don't have living parents or cousins around the corner to socialise with, sunday lunches, babysitting. We are all agreed how it does feel quite bleak sometimes. But ON THE OTHER HAND, we have made our own traditions. Sometimes I meet people whose children have grown up and they regret not being at the stage I was at when my children were exhausting - playmobil, co-sleeping, getting out to the park with snotty noses in tow and tantrums.

I also have met lots of people who made a decision as they got older to reduce their workload, some giving up work completely (I am one of those) some going freelance or in my husbands case starting his own business. I did feel financially much more secure in my late 30's having worked for decade, with a property at reasonable price etc etc, and more before that. I don't regret not working, I do regret the time I spent anxious and exhausted because I wasn't aware I had health problems and it was put down to "small children".

It was only when I found friends the same age as me with older children whose symptoms were diagnosed as empty nest (children off to uni) or even peri menopause that I became aware that exhaustion and aches and pains should always be investigated and not blamed on some external circs.

Troilusworks · 17/10/2019 17:57

OP I had mine in late 30s and early 40s. I was knackered for years and didn't get much help, even from DH. One thing I would do differently is all the self care stuff. It sounds like your DH is supportive, so I would definitely make sure you take turns in having breaks at the weekend. Maybe one gets a lie in one day and the other on the other day. There would still be plenty of family time for the rest of the day.

A few years ago I spent two nights at a hotel on my own. It was a fantastic chance to recharge batteries and focus on myself, rather than being me-as-wife or me-as-parent or me-as-housekeeper. I felt so rejuvenated. You may not be able to manage this for financial or logistical reasons, but even if you can have regular times when you aren't with the kids, or doing chores, it will do you the world of good.

My children are nearly both off hand now, and I must admit to hitting a brick wall during menopause. I think if I'd had more rest and recuperation earlier on, it wouldn't have hit me so hard.

Oldasfuck · 17/10/2019 18:11

We have spoken about going away for a weekend each.

He is pretty nice thank god. Does a lot of housework and childcare. More than most I suspect. Poor man looks like Hell. He's hitting 50 and looks it. He's quite good at self care, but he is starting to get loads of aches and pains. And his sleep is shit as I said. Drives a lot for work.

He has no interest in sex whatsoever and tbh I don't blame him, he's so knackered.

Then when we do it it's quite quick as it's been a month or more. Don't blame him for that either really. Im not exactly lighting the bed on fire myself, though the mind is willing. The body is just knackered, lol.

OP posts:
hazeyjane · 17/10/2019 18:18

I had my daughter when I was 23 and it was clear to younger mums like me that you older ones were going to run into energy issues. But no-one wanted to listen.
Fact is women do have to choose between motherhood and career. If you want to have both something has to give

Wow. Such insight. If only you had shared this wisdom around we would all be so much better off.

hazeyjane · 17/10/2019 18:21

2 things op

Iron (I take supplements and if I'm low on iron everything turns to shit)
Special Needs boards if you need any support regards sensory stuff, I've had more support and friendship there from people who 'get it' than pretty much anywhere else.

Soen · 17/10/2019 18:22

Oh OP, I feel your exhaustion. You sound drained. Go easy on yourself. I have 2 kids, 6 and nearly 4. It is bloody hardwork but the eldest one is easy. The youngest is a living nightmare who comes into my bed at night and disturbs my sleep.

I'm 33 and totally do not want any more. I'm single now anyway, and holding down a job with a commute is a faff. I dont think I could handle any more of babies/toddlers.

Please go easy on yourself even if it's just a soak in the bath every now and again. It works wonders.

MrsDesireeCarthorse · 17/10/2019 18:25

It's not age related. I had mine in my 40s, no family, SEN etc. Don't feel like you in the slightest, to be blunt. Love it.

Bouledeneige · 17/10/2019 18:31

Had mine at 36 and 38 - on my own from when they were 6 and 4. It was tiring but it changes all the time. Don't miss out though - they grow up so quickly!

HereTheyCome · 17/10/2019 18:40

Yes, I def felt the difference at 26 and 35. My first baby at 26 was very demanding, never slept, colic, terrible eczema, took us a full month to just get the hang of latching on, I couldn’t put him down for a moment. Oh, and we also lived on a building site at the time! Yet I coped with all that so so much easier. Had my last baby at 35, a great sleeper, never any fuss, fed beautifully, absolutely dream. House done up and comfortable. Yet, I found it so much harder!! You just can’t bounce back. It takes you longer to recuperate, to lose baby weight (still haven’t 6 years on!), to cope with fragmented sleep... I can only imagine what it’s like in your forties...

Child rearing is intensely hard. I just wish it got the credit it deserves. It is very hard labour, mentally and physically. So, really it is no surprise we are so tired doing it.

TaffeeComeHome · 17/10/2019 18:44

I ended up with custody of my 5 month old grandchild at the ripe old age of 54.
Just when I was getting my life back after the last of the kids left home.
Running round after an energetic toddler at 56 and working full time is knackering.

firesong · 17/10/2019 18:51

I'm 39 and my youngest is 2.5 (older one is nearly 9). There's a difference and I'm not even 40 yet. I'm tired, I have arthritis and it can be so difficult! I think my problem is the age gap, and the fact that I was getting my life back when I had the little one. How old are the kids OP?

managedmis · 17/10/2019 18:55

Crikey taffee

hazeyjane · 17/10/2019 19:02

Just to add. Along with being knackered and finding the juggle of life and other people's needs hard, I am incredibly lucky to have the children I have, my dh and friends. But it can be hard and tiring and there is nothing wrong with having a fuck off big moan about stuff.

Calmingvibrations · 17/10/2019 19:05

I totally hear you. OH and I have aged like dogs. In the last 2 years we feel about 10 older. I was trying to work out when we’d be in a better position to try and climb the work greasy pole and put some money away for retirement. Keep reading how kids need a lot of emotional support and time in the teenage years - we would be nearly retired by then!

I think the family thing is a big influence - we do have some family who might help out, but they are in a different country.

Anyway - selfishly, it’s good to know I’m not the only one struggling. Pretty much everyone I see seems to be managing better than I do.

Yorkshirelass444 · 17/10/2019 20:06

MrsDesireeCarthorse
I'm surprised such a capable person feels the need to boast on a thread like this- to be blunt.

billy1966 · 17/10/2019 20:08

@ TaffeeComeHome

Jesus, hats off to you👏👏👏

Neighneigh · 17/10/2019 20:31

Do you think you miss your old (pre kids) life a bit too? Being older there's more to miss, if you see what I mean. My dh is definitely feeling the "we never do anything" grumps at the moment, he's 38, I'm 39, kids are 9 and 3, we get virtually no extra help. I've definitely noticed the extra tiredness second time around but I am happy and know how lucky we are, and also that when the kids are older we can travel, do whatever we want: dh is missing pre-baby life & especially since the age gap took us back to square one. I'm tempted to tell him to stop being a selfish twat but he really isn't one, he'd just like to go out for a meal with me I think!

Oblomov19 · 17/10/2019 20:34

I think you are being unrealistic. You can go out, have hobbies and have friends round to dinner. You'd only need a babysitter for one of those things.

Oblomov19 · 17/10/2019 20:36

The classic mn complaint:

Oh we never go out", I couldn't. I couldn't leave the kids. No no babysitter. We haven't been out together for 15-20 years" Hmm

Oh purlease. No prizes for being a martyr.

goldfinchfan · 17/10/2019 21:19

when I was younger and my daughter was younger I sometimes worked with friends to share a babysitter costs so we could all go out together....the kids loved having a sleepover too to enable this to happen

Also we took turns to look after each others kids......
why can't any of you older mums try this out?

If you just shared once a week or fortnight it makes a difference if you can go and get some grown up time. It really helps.

TaffeeComeHome · 17/10/2019 21:19

What do you mean, you never go out?
I go out with my husband every saturday night. We pay for a babysitter and go for a meal and a drink or to the theatre etc.
Its nonsense to never go out socially just because you have young children.

Dowser · 17/10/2019 21:19

I don’t remember anything in the 80 s I was submerged under a welter of child care.
I had pneumonia aged 30 but still got up to see to my three little ones, then Would get into bed while they played around me till someone came to help
My gp put me In hospital for two weeks so I had a chance to recover
Thing is little ones are hard at any age.

At least I was 50 when my youngest was 21
Then it all started again as he was a single dad and I was looking after my grandson while he did a night shift.

Lack of sleep is just crucifying.
Once you’re getting regular sleep I’m sure a lot of those aches and pains will dissipate

hazeyjane · 17/10/2019 21:37

why can't any of you older mums try this out?

with my husband every saturday night. We pay for a babysitter and go for a meal and a drink or to the theatre etc. Its nonsense to never go out socially just because you have young children.

Oh purlease. No prizes for being a martyr

Jeez Louise where did the sarcastic snarkiness come from, has someone put something in the water. Sometimes it's trickier, not everyone has the same life.

SesameOil · 17/10/2019 21:38

I can't speak to being an older parent, but I think grief and the preschool stage are both exhausting whenever you do them.

OatyGoaty · 17/10/2019 21:40

What do you mean, you never go out?
I go out with my husband every saturday night. We pay for a babysitter and go for a meal and a drink or to the theatre etc.

Some people can't afford that.