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To feel pleased to read about the death of a paedophile in prison.

282 replies

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 14/10/2019 16:40

I have to admit when I read about the death of Richard Huckle it was quite literally the best news I've heard for weeks. Im not usually a death penalty advocate but this genuinely feels like justice to me.

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EarringsandLipstick · 15/10/2019 06:49

@OhWhatACarveUp

I recognize I’m in the minority, but it is a sickening thread

No, I agree entirely & have been reporting like crazy. To no avail it seems 😞

EarringsandLipstick · 15/10/2019 06:54

@ferntwist

Earrings you’re not living in the real world. Why not try to listen and respect others’ opinions on this instead of reporting.

Of course I'm living in the real world - where else am I? 🤔

And in the real world some of us are appalled by the vile pleasure some posters take in the death of any human being, and this idea that this represents some kind of justice, ignoring that we are meant to live in a civil society with rules and due process for crime, including heinous ones. (I keep saying I know the system doesn't always work fairly or sufficiently)

The lack of any awareness that taking pleasure in anyone's death is appalling, sickens me

So I'll keep reporting, fern

DonKeyshot · 15/10/2019 06:55

22 life sentences but he would have been paroled after 25 years, if that.

I don't understand why multiple sentences for serious offences are served concurrently. If the sentences were set to be served consecutively he would have had no chance of parole and would have died in prison.

As it is, he has died in prison but it's a sad state of affairs if we look to the prison population to mete out justice because our judicial system is not fit for purpose.

I feel indifferent to his fate and my sympathy lies entirely with his estimated to be 200+ victims.

Fwiw I can't bring myself to type his name here and when I put it in google I felt as if I'd sullied my laptop.

EarringsandLipstick · 15/10/2019 06:56

Spot on Beveren

Has anyone actually said they feel sympathy for him? It's perfectly possible to feel absolutely no sympathy for him but not to condone his murder.

BusterGonad · 15/10/2019 06:57

@Fuckoffmice I agree with you, it's not really a mental disorder is it? It's what they are attracted too. I think saying it's a mental disorder is disrespectful to people who have mental illnesses.

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 15/10/2019 07:14

My rational side absolutely accepts that prisons should be safe places, and condemns vigilantism. Unfortunately my gut feeling and first reaction on hearing this news was good fucking riddance.

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KennDodd · 15/10/2019 07:22

I don't celebrate anyone's murder.

rededucator · 15/10/2019 07:25

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe Which network showed a documentary about him and what was it called? I'd be intersected to find out more about how the authorities caught up with him.

NoSauce · 15/10/2019 07:34

It’s not about celebrating his murder. It’s about not being sorry be was.

He raped babies.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 15/10/2019 07:44

rededucator....it was shown on the facebook group UK database...its still on their page now ..its about 25 mins long and highly distressing though ...

KennDodd · 15/10/2019 07:46

It’s not about celebrating his murder.

Yes it is. Loads of posters on this thread saying 'made their day' 'great news' etc.

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IfIHadAPenny · 15/10/2019 08:03

@NoSauce exactly.

Some posters aren't comprehending the complex nature of emotion; it's possible to feel glad that he's dead, while not wishing death upon him.

The person/s responsible for his murder should be held accountable and an investigation should be held onto how this was allowed to happen and steps taken to prevent it happening again.

Was it a loss to society? God, no. I do hope he suffered and was as at least half as frightened as he made his victims. Would I have wished a tragic, painful death on him? No. But it happened.

TottieandMarchpane · 15/10/2019 08:07

Was it a loss to society? God, no. I do hope he suffered and was as at least half as frightened as he made his victims. Would I have wished a tragic, painful death on him? No. But it happened.

You wouldn’t have wished a painful death in him but you hope he suffered and was scared?

You sound more confused than anything. Is there really that big a difference between wishing and hoping?

ThePolishWombat · 15/10/2019 08:31

My immediate thought when I heard about his death was “Good riddance. One less scumbag in the world. And bravo to the inmate who cleaned out the trash”....but then my logical brain kicked in. We don’t know who the person who killed him is. For all we know, it could be another paedophile or equally as depraved criminal. For all we know, it might not have even been a warped kind of vigilante justice - it could have just been Huckle and Mystery Guy arguing over a packet of crisps and the fight got out of hand...people fight over petty shit like that in prison and it can get you killed.
We don’t know enough of the facts of the matter.
Do I mourn his death? No.
Does it make me uncomfortable that this was allowed to happen in a high security prison where they are supposed to be watched closely by prison officers? Definitely.

IfIHadAPenny · 15/10/2019 08:35

TottieandMarchpane the idea of reflection escapes you, then?

NoSauce · 15/10/2019 09:03

Yes it is. Loads of posters on this thread saying 'made their day' 'great news' etc

I and many others are not celebrating he was murdered but I am not sorry he was. He didn’t deserve to live after what he has done.
Good riddance to bad rubbish is all I can say. I can’t feel sorry for someone so hideously bad.

Fuckoffmice · 15/10/2019 09:08

@IfIHadAPenny thank you! You summed up what I mean perfectly

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/10/2019 09:16

His punishment is over now. It’s deservingly so particularly difficult for child sex offenders in many prisons

And someone else is able to justify their violence

But I can’t say I feel sad that he has died or died a violent death - but i feel it’s not something to celebrate. Should any of his victims feel relief that I can absolutely understand

anniemac1 · 15/10/2019 09:20

I have 2 friends who frequently say they feel sorry for the people who commit these crimes. They feel it is an illness. They make me feel I am out of touch ,so reading these comments make me feel I,m not the odd one.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 15/10/2019 09:29

anniemac1, I don't know your friends' position, but mine is that the feelings may be an illness, but choosing to act on it and abuse others isn't an illness.

If a man raped hundreds of adult women because he couldn't find anyone who could and would have consensual sex with him, that wouldn't be an illness, either. You are not entitled to hurt other people no matter how sexually frustrated you are.

TottieandMarchpane · 15/10/2019 09:30

TottieandMarchpane the idea of reflection escapes you, then?

You can’t see that the distinction between wishing murder on someone ahead of time, and hoping their killing was painful and frightening after the event is paper thin?

anniemac1 · 15/10/2019 09:34

You are absolutley correct. It is a good distinction.

TottieandMarchpane · 15/10/2019 09:35

You sound like one of the convict vigilantes yourself, TBH.

EmeraldShamrock · 15/10/2019 09:48

I haven't read the details of his crimes or how he had access, maybe later, from what I've read so far the man was evil.

It’s not about celebrating his murder. It’s about not being sorry be was
This, good riddance to the scumbag.
I hope the murderer gets extra time too, less evil scumbags on the street. Was he is a sexual offenders prison?

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