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To feel pleased to read about the death of a paedophile in prison.

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EllebellyBeeblebrox · 14/10/2019 16:40

I have to admit when I read about the death of Richard Huckle it was quite literally the best news I've heard for weeks. Im not usually a death penalty advocate but this genuinely feels like justice to me.

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fairybeagle · 14/10/2019 22:40

Nope not unreasonable. I was delighted reading it. Good riddance to a disgusting excuse for a human being.

Traintrackmad · 14/10/2019 22:43

any of you with little boys? your own son could grow up to be a 'monster' like this......and theres nothing you can do to prevent that..nothing

I have to agree with this. A close friends son was convicted of child sex abuse earlier on this year. There is nothing from his childhood to guess this is how he would turn out. He had a normal working/middle class upbringing. A good education, parents and extended family who loved him, a good social life, good at sport, had a decent job.
I had a very stereotypical view of what a set offender would look like, but actually some of them are just normal boys, from very normal homes. And yes, I do feel immense sympathy for Huckles family, not just because he was murdered, but because of everything they have been through because of their son.

It concerns me very much that a prisoner was murdered in prison. If a weapon can be made and used against another prisoner, there is no reason why it couldn’t be used against an officer and that is massively concerning.

JenniferM1989 · 14/10/2019 22:45

He deserves what he got, Infact a stabbing was too kind for him, he should have been made to suffer much more than he actually probably did. If only there was more people in prison willing to take 15 years to do in these absolute monsters and make them suffer.

The justice system is a joke and these types are protected in prison. They shouldn't be. Even the hardest of criminals that have murdered rivals in gang shootings and stabbings draw the line at child sexual abuse, rape and other associated sick and depraved crimes.

The justice system and how we treat paedophiles should never get into the hands of the far left and we SHOULD NOT feel empathy for someone like this being murdered. He should have been hung upon conviction. If he was put in a Malaysian prison, he wouldn't have gotten off with a stabbing, that's for sure

Tweetingmagpie · 14/10/2019 22:50

@Traintrackmad and you know his upbringing was completely normal how? You don’t know what goes on behind closed doors.

OhWhatACarveUp · 14/10/2019 23:02

I recognize I’m in the minority, but it is a sickening thread

NoSauce · 14/10/2019 23:02

Only truly unpleasant, spiteful or ignorant people could be pleased by any murder. Some of you are sick

Who gives a fuck about this man? After everything he put all those innocent children through.

ferntwist · 14/10/2019 23:05

I was also glad, particularly after reading his online bragging about abusing a three-year-old girl. Of course no one should be attacked in prison, but the world is a better place without him in it.

rededucator · 14/10/2019 23:05

I also feel huge sympathy for his parents. I believe I read that he confessed to them and they handed him over. I believe that some people are born this way and they therefore cannot be rehabilitated. If you have not seen it I recommend watching the documentary Married to A Pedophile. The pedophile in the document accepted that he was born with these tendencies but seemed help and never acted upon them (including online activity), he then married a woman who was aware of this side of him. Other men, like this piece of subhuman garbage decided to act and revelled in it by sharing his actions, writing a handbook, creating a points system and selling photographs.

Tweetingmagpie · 14/10/2019 23:06

He raped babies as young as six months old. How can anyone care if he was murdered?

ferntwist · 14/10/2019 23:08

Earrings you’re not living in the real world. Why not try to listen and respect others’ opinions on this instead of reporting.

ferntwist · 14/10/2019 23:09

Well put tweetingmagpie.

LoveNote · 14/10/2019 23:11

i can care about babies and care about murder going unchecked

its not a case of one or another

OchNah · 14/10/2019 23:14

Great news, shame it didn’t get to suffer longer in incarceration, but hopefully it suffered pain and terror whilst being exterminated. I hoped the paedo who attacked me starting from when I was 30 months old would suffer hugely, but it lived its natural lifespan freely, among others in society thanks to the RUC. A dead paedo is a cause for celebration.

OchNah · 14/10/2019 23:15

1 in 6 children are sexually abused
Anyone defending paedos deserves everything they get.

Mummaofmytribe · 14/10/2019 23:16

I'm not sick. I'm not fist pumping and grinning at this news.
. I am, however, a survivor of a paedophile. A man who repeatedly did the most awful things to me when I was a little girl. I don't revel in the idea of murder. I'm not dancing gleefully about at this news.
But if I heard that my abuser had been murdered I cannot pretend there wouldn't be part of me that would feel avenged.
I live with the knowledge that he walks the streets now. Has a family. A job. A home.
He's "served his time" apparently.
I am a strong, loving person, who tries to lead a positive, productive life.
But I am always a victim. I've been irrevocably shaped by the acts inflicted on me as a child. There's a darkness that will never leave me. A stain on my psyche.
I highly doubt this murder was committed by a crusader for justice for child victims. Could've been a row over drugs, a reprisal for something else. We don't know the reason for the killing.
I feel very bad for those working in the prison system because if a murder is able to occur what's to stop it being a staff member? That issue worries me.
But when I think that this man has been killed - for whatever reason- my main feeling is that he can't do any further harm. I can't pretend revulsion because my gut reaction is relief.
It doesn't make me a sick person to feel that.

TottieandMarchpane · 14/10/2019 23:18

The problem is, when prison murder becomes routine, then we essentially have unofficial capital punishment, without any checks and balances.

What if someone whose conviction is unsafe gets killed like this?

summerbreezer1 · 14/10/2019 23:23

We cannot excuse a murderer on the basis that his victim had committed a despicable crime(s). That is a very very slippery slope.

Huckle committed many evil acts. His murderer committed another evil act. If we allow vigilante justice, innocent people will end up dying sooner or later.

Also to those who say he would have been "out in his fifties" are misinformed. He had a life sentence with a minimum tariff of 25 years. You are not automatically released at the expiry of the tariff. The chances of him ever being released would have been slim to none.

I hope that the authorities investigate this murder as they would do any other. It should be of grave concern to everyone that this murder was allowed to occur in one of our prisons.

TottieandMarchpane · 14/10/2019 23:27

The chances of him ever being released would have been slim to none.

I imagine he would have been highly likely to do something that would get him recalled anyway. I’m not sure most people understand that after a life sentence, you’re only ever out “on licence”.

Beveren · 14/10/2019 23:30

He's someone who was apparently obsessed with paedophilia. He must have hated every moment in prison when he couldn't access the objects of his obsession. I think it's a pity that his punishment has been cut short.

Beveren · 14/10/2019 23:33

He should have been hung upon conviction.

How would that work? Even when we had the death penalty we didn't hang people for this sort of crime, at least not in the last 100+ years.

NoCauseRebel · 14/10/2019 23:38

So if we take the fact that he was murdered out of the picture here, do people still feel sympathy for him?

Because while it is of course possible and right to say that murder is wrong whoever is being murdered, it’s still possible not to have sympathy for this man now that he is dead.

So if he’d died of an illness or taken his own life, would people be sympathetic? And if so, why?

TottieandMarchpane · 14/10/2019 23:46

So if we take the fact that he was murdered out of the picture here, do people still feel sympathy for him?

No. I have no sympathy for him @NoCauseRebel

I do like the rule of law, and worry about the consequences of vigilantism.

Beveren · 14/10/2019 23:49

Has anyone actually said they feel sympathy for him? It's perfectly possible to feel absolutely no sympathy for him but not to condone his murder.

LoveNote · 14/10/2019 23:49

sympathy? yes absolutely....for his parents, extended family, prison officers who found him, paramedics who had to go in to that environment to tend to him,.....lots of people would be affected, as well as other prisoners who must all now fear for their own lives too

ginghambox · 15/10/2019 00:03

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To feel pleased to read about the death of a paedophile in prison.
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