To feel pleased to read about the death of a paedophile in prison.

[EllebellyBeeblebrox]

I have to admit when I read about the death of Richard Huckle it was quite literally the best news I've heard for weeks. Im not usually a death penalty advocate but this genuinely feels like justice to me.

I don't mourn his death for a second but I don't want prisons to be places where murders are possible. Good post

I'm not shedding tears about his death, but the men who killed him were in no way good people. One of them murdered two old women in a nursing home and the other one tried to suffocate a fellow patient in hospital to death. They'd also been fantasising about killing and eating a fellow prisoner. And it's Frankland, a Cat A prison. You don't get sent there unless you've done something utterly horrifying.

I feel sorry for his family though, imagine finding out that your kid turned into THAT. At least they're not defending him.

He would have been paroled after 25 years

No he wouldn't. None of these guys get parole at the first attempt, certainly not someone serving 22 life sentences.

Had he lived, what actually would have happened is some other charges would have been brought at some point while he was in prison, so topping up his sentence and adding on to the 25 years. Then he would have been turned down for parole a few times - add on at least another 5-10 years for that.

So Instead of 25 years, you are now looking at 35-40 years. Which is a long time in prison - having gone in at 33, it's a life sentence.

That's without charges being submitted from another country and him being extradited there at the end of his sentence to serve there.

He was never getting out.

I would rather he had served his punishment for all those years. Plus he will have been on a Vulnerable Prisoner Wing - the person who stabbed him isn't a hero, they will be convicted of offences just as vile as him.

It's incredibly offensive to compare people with psychosis, who aren't in control of their actions, to people who commit sex crimes against children. Just because you can't comprehend their actions doesn't make them mentally Ill. They are fully aware of what they are doing and able to differentiate between right and wrong/legal and illegal.

I don’t consider his murderer as a hero. Not for one minute. But I can’t feel any sadness that he’s been killed. The only sadness I feel is for the children that have had their lives ruined by this man.

He was in Full Sutton - cat A.

Okay I done some reading.
His parent's were courageous I hope they find the strength to move on from this.

At least he won't harm any more children.

I used to be a Lostprophets fan, so I followed the Ian Watkins case and one site had published the transcript, and it was horrifying reading. People like that should never be allowed out, because they can't be trusted. They're far too dangerous.

@Grannybags Given the crimes the murderers were in for, I wonder if the people saying 'give them a knighthood' would be saying the same if it was their mother or grandmother who'd been killed.

Personally I wish he'd lived another 70 years of misery in a prison where everyone knew who he was and what he was in for. I think he got off lightly by dying.

Turns out today that the main suspect for killing serial rapist Huckle is... another convicted rapist.

And now he's demonstrated that he's able and willing to stab people to death, as well as rape them. I don't see how this makes him safer to women and girls, but presumably the people who called for the killer's release will be able to explain why it does.

You can be in a cat a prison for lots of things and they are also sometimes used as a holding prison until they find a place for prisoners, like I said earlier my husband was in prison and it was for dealing firearms, he was in a cat a prison nearly half his sentence then they sent him to an open prison. So the person who did it wasn’t necessarily a paedophile aswell or even a murderer, could’ve been drugs, burglary, anything really. It’s not always for a violent crime.

But yeah, saying they deserve a knighthood and an early release is just typical vigilante sun reader stuff really.

JamieVardy, I think you missed my point.

Monster gang member bumps off monster child molester because he believes child abusers are scum. Monster child abuser is taken off the earth (good). Monster gang member gets 15 more years for murder. That's two criminals likely never to see the light of day again.

In this case, it was actually a rapist that likely killed the beast. That beast is now dead (good) but the rapist that murdered him is likely to now get 15 more years for murdering the beast. We now have two heinous criminals either permanently off the street and earth or one at least and the other away for much longer.

Maybe they should make this a thing. Instead of us having to put up with these people in our society, once they go to real prison, just let them all integrate and kill each other. That way we don't need to feed them and the one that does the killing gets more time then may one day get killed themself. Lump all the child abusers, rapists and serial killers in together and let them decide who's the most scummy. It all ends in none of them ever getting to live in society again basically. Seems like a great idea!

Yeah, because there's no such thing as a miscarriage of justice or anything

Apologies, I got confused. Mitchell Harrison was the paedo who was killed by the guy who murdered two women in an old people's home.

My point still stands though. I doubt the people who killed Huckle were in there for non-payment of fines. If one of them was a rapist, does that still make him a hero?

Not gonna waste my sympathy on him. My thoughts are with the abused.

I don't recall your post, Jennifer. Were you one of the people on social media (inc MN) saying that Huckle's killer should be released and/or knighted?

Ah, I've scrolled up now. I'm not sure I've missed your point, Jennifer. I think I just vehemently disagree with you. I dislike the popular view that violent criminals can be trusted to stand up for child protection in their own violent way.

It's all very rosy, but back in the real world, the Catholic church , Scouting, and various youth organisations have been infiltrated and used as a network to perpetuate and cover up organised child abuse.

And yet the public like this idea of the noble violent hardened criminal, who will rob, steal and kill, but would never raise a hand to a woman, and will dispense rough justice to convicted sex offenders. If the men who weren't rapists in thepriesthood couldn't or wouldn't root out child abusers within their ranks without outside pressure, why expect better of criminals?

Personally I wish he'd lived another 70 years of misery in a prison where everyone knew who he was and what he was in for. I think he got off lightly by dying
Nah at least his sick memories died with him, he saw an oppurtunity on his month long expedition in namibia how vulnerable poor DC were, he based his life as a predator.

I think people would be less likely to support this sort of vigilante justice if they were convinced that the prison system is actually a punishment. Sutton hosts discos for inmates, they have access to tv and fucking playstations, they can socialise, read books from the library and make useful criminal connections for when they are back in the outside world. I can understand not wanting to pay for such appalling criminals as Hutton to live like this and seeing the murderer as heroic.

And that's not even taking into account the ridiculous sentences given, life should mean life, not free to continue to abuse once your 'life' sentence is up. I wonder what the reconviction rates are for peadophiles, I'd be very interested to see if jail time is effective in curbing their behaviour.

I hope he bled out slowly and suffered immense pain.

That fucker thought he was untouchable and saw children as nothing more than a plaything to be used and abused however he pleased. He was a sick fuck who's crimes escalated the more brazen he became. He took advantage of the children and their vulnerable poor families. The only thing that would have been better is that he serve his full term and then got what was coming to him on his release date.

Just seeing his smirky face makes me so angry. I bet his family are glad too because they won't be linked to this total parasite anymore.

I think people would be less likely to support this sort of vigilante justice if they were convinced that the prison system is actually a punishment. Sutton hosts discos for inmates, they have access to tv and fucking playstations, they can socialise, read books from the library

What regime is it you’d prefer?

Oakum picking and hamster wheels? (European Human Rights Law wouldn’t allow it.)

23 hours of cell time a day and no entertainment or education? (You’d get riots. We can’t afford the staff ratios you’d need to physically contain that many bored, desperate lifers with nothing to lose.)

Yup. Every armchair philosopher wants a prison-means-prison environment, but no-one wants to work in it.

I notice nobody’s ever clamouring to get in to access these much vaunted prison discos and x boxes, either.

Has anyone actually said they feel sympathy for him? It's perfectly possible to feel absolutely no sympathy for him but not to condone his murder.

He would only be in his 50s if he had been released at the first parole board. More than young enough to target more children.

So, I'm glad there's no chance of further victims. But I'd have preferred him to remain alive to serve the sentence, because this killing is the start of a slippery slope. And that we may now never be able to identify all the victims makes me sad, they deserve to have help and support.