Kids of famous people saying they are famous in their own right!

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It really drives me mad. You are obviously mainly famous or successful because of connections. I know some are them are talented but surely connections of parents help. David Hasslehoff's daughter has said it. Kelly Osborne, Lilly Allen and loads more.

* sorry, is Johnny Ball kkk

Oh ffs, didnt mean to do kkk, it's in the same place as *

There is no question that Zoe Ball got her break as a runner and researcher - one of the principal routes into TV presenting - through her father.

Kudos to Sara Cox, who made it on her own (and wipes the floor with Zoe Ball).

And now theres mini Ball on the telly, even thiugh Zoe made such a big thing about him getting his A levels and going to Bristol uni. Five minutes later, hes on the telly.

I do think that most famous celeb kids got their break or got further quicker by having connections and agents, going to the right school, knowing the right people.
Some will be as (or more) talented than their parent some wont, but the point is that they (rightly or wrongly) got sort of fast tracked to their desired career whereas many comparitively talented non famous people would have had to move heaven and earth to get similar breaks.
I think sport is different from acting or modelling though, which is very subjective. If footballers from famous parents arent any good they would be dropped from the team.Eilish McColgan is a good distance runner for example but she would absolutely have to meet qualifying standards to be part of a gb squad.
As a PP said, i found it pretty galling when VB won some entrepreneur award. To me an entrepreneur starts from nothing ,and theres often an element of financial risk.

Although to me, more annoying than nepotism and celeb kids is all the random breaks people are given once they are famous. Mylene Klass had a baby clothing range for example. Shes a musician and presenter....what qualifies her as a designer? Same with VB, i saw she was designing the interior of a range rover (I'm not sure who would find that more desirable than a standard interior, to be fair) how does she know better than their regular designers? Ditto Fearne Cotton doing a cookery book, Jools Oliver doing a baby book etc.
Although i guess there must be a market for this sort of crap thing but I've never once met anyone say they couldn't find a range of baby clothes they liked til MK appeared, or that they would buy a range rover if only it had a more stylish interior....

I remember reading that Lily Allen's notions of being poor came from her mother having to "scrape for the school fees" for very expensive private London schools

As opposed from actually being poor when any private school is beyond your means and you have to scrape for the weekly shop.

Those magazine awards ceremonies are mostly bollocks, designed to get publicity for the magazine and make the editorial staff feel important. The best way to do that is to get celebrities to attend.

The celebrities will only attend if they know that they will win an award. They aren’t going to settle for any old award. No, it must be an award that appeals to their vanity and over-inflated ego.

Victoria Beckham wishes that she were an entrepreneur and fashion designer. She is clearly neither. I doubt that she knows a cash flow statement from a copy of Grazia, and the only designing she’ll be doing is saying It like that’ when her design team - many of whom, I understand, moved from Roland Mouret, hence the similarities in the earlier designs to his clothes - show her something they have designed.

Does that stop her simpering down the catwalk at the end of the runway show with her name on it? Not a chance.

Would she feel embarrassed at accepting pointless magazine awards, from Glamour or whatever, for design or entrepreneurship? Of course not.

What she doesn’t realise is how many people are laughing at her. Including, I imagine, her own staff.

Jude Law’s son has just been given the lead role in the remake of Oliver... wonder how he got that job??

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7578935/Jude-Laws-son-Rafferty-lands-lead-role-Disneys-remake-Oliver.html

Oliver hes way too old surely

Didn't Roland Mouret openly admit that he 'helped' VB in the early days? In other words, he designed the clothes?

If she had come out and admitted that she was being coached by Mouret and had a large team 'helping' with the design work, I'd admire her. You have to start somewhere. But now, she had to pretend that she was the only designer ever who went from wearing denim minis with suede boots, to designing a high fashion line, almost overnight. No training, no apprenticeship, no starting small... nothing. And we're meant to believe the whole nonsense?

And isn't her 'fashion empire' on life support now basically? Like I said before, if you're one of the few women who can spend big money on a dress, why on earth would you buy one from a former WAG, with so many prestigious companies competing for your money? And now she's started an up market cosmetics line. Because the world really needs another one of those.

Romeo Beckham is a very attractive boy in real life (I taught him for a while). The others, I agree, are average looking, but Romeo has real charisma in the flesh.

A 17 year old has 'real charisma in the flesh'?

Lord I've just googled Anais Gallagher off the back of this thread. Perfectly fine looking, if the spit of her Dad, but she's not model material-she's neither stunning nor quirky-so she does prove the point rather.
I don't know that it pisses me off especially-it just is and always will be-what's your parents do, if successful, can open doors I guess, in all areas of life.

The Oliver Twist remake in which Rafferty Law will make his film debut also ‘stars’ Rita Ora (cv to date: bit part in 50 shades of grey) as Bill Sikes! Hahahaha!

Rafferty Law is too old to play Oliver Twist but also, Rita Ora as the Artful Dodger and Lena Headey as Bill Sikes??

But now, she had to pretend that she was the only designer ever who went from wearing denim minis with suede boots, to designing a high fashion line, almost overnight.

she's never said that for a start. Of course she is not doing everything in her box room once the kids have gone to bed! I admire her, she was mocked and ridiculed, some designers were refusing to lend her clothes because it would tarnish their name. She did turn it around completely, and she is still going very strong.

There are a lot of worst role models in the world, than someone who became famous in her right and has kept going, through more or less successful ventures, and has made a name for herself.

And yes, VB’s fashion business is surviving on support from other Beckham companies. A vanity project in every sense of the word. Without cash from his image rights companies, her venture would have failed years ago.

She did turn it around completely, and she is still going very strong.

Really?

Business
Financial woes hit Victoria Beckham's fashion label

Victoria Beckham's fashion label has been struggling to turn a profit, but the ex-Spice Girl is not giving up just yet. Still, it's unclear if business fortunes will change anytime soon.

Victoria Beckham

Beckham Brand Holdings, the company that runs David and Victoria Beckham's business empire, reportedly paid out 30 million pounds (€35 million, $38 million) in dividends to the couple even after profits in Victoria's part of the company tanked.

The company's pretax profits fell 20 percent, to 15.7 million pounds, as losses rose at Victoria Beckham's fashion business, despite revenue rising by 17 percent, to 55.7 million pounds.

Victoria Beckham's business losses rose from 8.5 million pounds to 10.3 million pounds in 2017, and the unit was only helped by writing off almost 7 million pounds in debts that the business owed to David Beckham's firm and the parent company.

Victoria Beckham Limited then raised 30 million pounds from NEO Investment Partners, in return for a 28 percent stake in the business.

'It lacks scale'

"I'm not sure that the company has ever consistently made a profit and it has lost money for several years running, so the latest trading deficit is really the norm rather than an exception," Russ Mould from stock brokers AJ Bell told DW.

"There are lots of luxury fashion brands which continue to make very high profit margins — just look at Burberry or the Kering-owned Gucci — so you would have to say that the latest loss suggests the Victoria Beckham brand may simply not resonate with enough luxury goods buyers for it to be a consistently profitable enterprise," Mould said.*

www.dw.com/en/financial-woes-hit-victoria-beckhams-fashion-label/a-46917357

I’d have some sympathy with @ThatMuppetShow’s view if I thought that VB was capable of actually designing anything. Which fashion school did she go to? Let’s see her cut a pattern or inset a sleeve. Thought not.

It’s a hard sell as has been said, if you have that much to spend on something most are buying the vision of the creative director / designer.

Apple Martin also hit lucky in the gene pool she's a very pretty girl. It'll be interesting to see if she opts for model/acting gigs, or something else. It does amaze me how many sleb kids don't seem to go into other fields though. The parents have all the money on the world for private tutors and the best schools but seem happy for them to just fart about doing very little. Gordon Bannatyne seemed to not just hand it all on a plate to his kids though (I could be wrong). You often reap what you sow as a parent IMHO.

Omg theyre trying to really ruin Oliver arent they

And yes, VB’s fashion business is surviving on support from other Beckham companies. A vanity project in every sense of the word

VB should have gone into collaboration with a high street chain, like Kate Moss' highly succesful deal with Top Shop. But no, her ego wouldn't allow that.

It does amaze me how many sleb kids don't seem to go into other fields though.

I suspect the majority of them do. We just don't hear about them.

The point is that VB could afford to take a punt on being a fashion "designer" because she was already wealthy and successful. Lots of other wanna-be designers who can make/design clothes might not have had the contacts or finance to back themselves.