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Kids of famous people saying they are famous in their own right!

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Belledan1 · 13/10/2019 11:47

It really drives me mad. You are obviously mainly famous or successful because of connections. I know some are them are talented but surely connections of parents help. David Hasslehoff's daughter has said it. Kelly Osborne, Lilly Allen and loads more.

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EachandEveryone · 16/10/2019 11:34

Another thing I dont get is, when the supermodels were big the industry was so sordid. Why would you want your child involved? All the coke and slimy blokes why would you encourage it?

joyfullittlehippo · 16/10/2019 11:34

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morningcoffee22 · 16/10/2019 11:43

Richard Madeleys daughter is often described as a television presenter.....err what does she present exactly.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 11:48

Another thing I dont get is, when the supermodels were big the industry was so sordid. Why would you want your child involved? All the coke and slimy blokes why would you encourage it?

I guess they reckon that nobody would dare harass the daughter of Kate Moss or Cindy Crawford.

But while that's probably true, the industry is still terribly sleazy. Why would you want your daughter to grow up around that when there is so much else she could do with her life? Not to mention the effects on her self esteem - which modelling can often destroy at the best of times - when she inevitably hears the murmers about how she's nowhere near as pretty as her mum and only got the job because of her name.

Iamthewombat · 16/10/2019 11:59

Ol’ Brooklyn won his place at the prestigious art school, did he?

Nothing to do with his mum & dad bunging them a load of cash?

His much-derided book of photographs wouldn’t even have got him an interview! Again, why are these people not embarrassed?

Potnoodledoo · 16/10/2019 12:00

Another thing I dont get is, when the supermodels were big the industry was so sordid. Why would you want your child involved? All the coke and slimy blokes why would you encourage it?

Tht would explain Cindy being superglued to her daughter at all times.Which is no way to live.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 12:05

I think Cindy is trying to relive her glory days through Kaia. Objectively, her son Presley is the real looker in that family - he's the spit of his mum - but she is pushing Kaia into the business as an extension of herself.

And for those who say Kaia is old enough to make up her own mind, that's true - now. But remember those pictures of her looking very 'grown-up' in Versace ads when she was all of 10 years old?

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TriDreigiau · 16/10/2019 12:50

DH went to a talk by Rhianna Pratchett - she acknowledges the name got her through the door but also that it didn't keep her in the room that was hard work also talent I assume.

I think moving in the right circles and name recognition play a part rather than direct action on parents’ part.

Though DH recently told me of a case where I'm not sure how the initial approach was made, but a famous voice offered to work for free on a project – he pointed out they couldn’t afford him - in return they’d give his child a job. Apparently, they were dreading it - assuming it would be a burden actually the grown child in question was qualified in the area and really good and very much an asset- everyone ended up pleased.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 12:55

Apparently, they were dreading it - assuming it would be a burden actually the grown child in question was qualified in the area and really good and very much an asset- everyone ended up pleased.

If this person was so brilliant why did they need a bribe from their parents to get a job? Why didn't they just apply like everyone else would have to do?

And I'm not sure the people who weren't even considered for the job as they didn't have a famous person offering favours would be so pleased at this outcome.

TriDreigiau · 16/10/2019 13:05

If this person was so brilliant why did they need a bribe from their parents to get a job?

Really competitive industry to get into – first job hardest -and I doubt it would be widely known and as they get experience and prove themselves cared about.

I also didn't say I agreed with it.

I also said I image that direct approach behind doors is probably rarer than name recognition and right social circles.

It’s not something I can give my kids so I’m hardly in favour of it Hmm and as I don’t control the world yet I can’t stop it.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 13:12

Really competitive industry to get into – first job hardest -and I doubt it would be widely known and as they get experience and prove themselves cared about.

Right. So this person probably wouldn't have got the job if their parents were teachers or shop assistants. Luckily for them they had a famous parent to bribe the employers. I get that you're not saying you agree with it but saying 'everyone ended up pleased' seems odd to me - if this was a highly competitive industry then they'd very likely have had their pick of good candidates anyway.

I'm assuming this wasn't a state-run industry, given their willingness to barter jobs for favours?

Iamthewombat · 16/10/2019 13:43

I think it’s the point being missed again: yes, the ‘child of the famous voice’ might have been qualified in the area and an asset etc., but the bottom line is that he or she can’t have been good enough to compete on a level playing field, otherwise they’d have done so. The intervention from the famous parent made sure that other, better kids didn’t get a look in, in this unspecified industry that loads of people want to work in (animation, or computer games design, if we’re taking about voices, perhaps?)

Iamthewombat · 16/10/2019 13:45

And if I’d worked there, I’d have been the opposite of pleased to be going along with unfairness and nepotism. I’d have thought less of both the voice and the voice’s child as a consequence.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 13:45

And they just keep getting younger and younger - Abby Clancy's 8 year old daughter is now a 'model'. Apparently.

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Iamthewombat · 16/10/2019 13:45

I bet it is Aardman Studios.

TriDreigiau · 16/10/2019 13:46

I get that you're not saying you agree with it but saying 'everyone ended up pleased' seems odd to me - if this was a highly competitive industry then they'd very likely have had their pick of good candidates anyway.

They were all pleased- dad got son foot in door, son got foot in door, people who DH knew were pleased they didn't have a chocolate teapot and also got the voice which helped their product.

It worked out for everyone – it hardly discourages it from happening again.

One of mine of sibling’s career ambitions, very different area- was thwarted due to lack of family contacts within the area - you needed post graduate training place - everyone who got one had contacts in the area. If they’d been brilliant, I image they’d have found something as it was they saw less good people with contacts get on while they didn’t.

I think it happens a lot more than it should and my working class family with no helpful contacts is directly adversely affected - I think it's just easier to see with famous names.

I’ve no idea why IcedPurple you think you know more than I do about the stated second hand information I’ve relayed or why your so determined to try and make out I’m in favour of nepotism.

TriDreigiau · 16/10/2019 13:51

Iamthewombat right area - but DH was talking to owners of company who'll make money from end product - they're going to see if differently to folk who "just" work there - (they also work on product so can judge).

I've no idea if the folk who "just" work there would "know" - as it were.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 13:54

They were all pleased- dad got son foot in door, son got foot in door, people who DH knew were pleased they didn't have a chocolate teapot and also got the voice which helped their product.

Was this an advertised position? Were the candidates who were rejected also 'pleased' that they didn't get the job because the company accepted a bribe to employ a 'famous' person's son?

I’ve no idea why IcedPurple you think you know more than I do about the stated second hand information I’ve relayed or why your so determined to try and make out I’m in favour of nepotism.

Because you keep offering excuses for it. Saying that those directly concerned were 'pleased' that bartering jobs for favours worked out - for them - is looking at things in a very superficial and selfish manner. They were all involved in corrupt behaviour and should be ashamed of themselves, not 'pleased'.

TriDreigiau · 16/10/2019 14:01

@IcedPurple I think you are just looking for a fight.

I've stated how I heard this -
I've no reason to doubt what I got told about clearly I'm not going to know every sodding detail as i wasn't directly involved in any of it

Because you keep offering excuses for it

Confused - I'm saying it happens and I've given a second hand acocunt of a situation I've been told about.

Quite why that makes me responsible for nepotism is beyond me.

IcedPurple · 16/10/2019 14:07

Quite why that makes me responsible for nepotism is beyond me.

Well there's a strawman and a half!

Nobody said you were 'responsible for nepotism'. Don't be daft. But by shrugging your shoulders and saying 'everyone was pleased' you are ignoring the wider ramifications of the corruption these individuals gladly took part in.

And I'll leave it there.

Iamthewombat · 16/10/2019 14:08

I don’t think you’re being scapegoated for nepotism. @IcedPurple notes that unfairness and bribery isn’t something for the business owners or the beneficiary to celebrate, irrespective of what benefits it brought to them personally.

PrincessRaven · 16/10/2019 14:40

Just a note about Zoe Ball ( mentioned above) her dad was Johnny Ball, also famous in tv....