To think there's a link between climate change denial and Leave voters?

[KennDodd]

Listening to Nigel Farage 'climate scepticism ' on the radio last night and all his fans agreeing with him. I think Nigel Farage has also said the doctors are wrong about smoking. Baffling why anyone would take his view seriously. Anyway, every climate change denier I've heard of is also a Leaver. AIBU to think they're connected?

Unsurprisingly the Brexiteer minimising climate change on Question Time.

that will come as an incredible shock to many posters on here who have never ever contemplated a connection.

I do think thar one thing you see in a lot of Leavers (#NALALT) is a distrust of “experts”.....

Problem with telling developing countries to clean up their act is that the West has been developed by polluting and continues to do so... Look at the US. Plus we buy all their good that are made by polluting.

It was Julia Hartley-Brewer. Accusing people of scaremongering about climate change, claims are ridiculous and that there will be technological solutions (that don't exist). All sound very familiar. How could people have fallen for the shit these people spout.

Unfortunately there is a correlation. It’s called education. Single most significant factor in voting choice re Brexit.

Unfortunately there is a correlation. It’s called education.

No hope for the Irish then.

I had a quick look at The British Social Attitudes link;

Attitudes to climate change; "We use data from the European Social Survey (ESS), the European sister survey to the BSA series"

^"Concern about climate change is particularly high in Portugal, Spain and Germany, with Portugal being the only country where more
than 50% of the population report being very or extremely worried about the issue."^

"In contrast, concern about climate change is relatively low in Ireland and Israel, the Eastern European countries of Lithuania, Estonia and Poland, as well as in the Russian Federation, each with less than 20% of their populations expressing worry about climate change."

Don’t know why but I felt the need to look into the stats.

I would appreciate any fact checking from Eileenbilton bertrandrussell and rightyesbutno as they have also engaged in the stats

I’m just using what I could find with a quick google

If 97% of the British public believe climate change is probably or likely to be happening, then by my calculations there’s about 4.74 million people in the uk who don’t.

If 71% of people who voted remain and 51% voted leave think climate change is definitely happening (I realise this is not the same as definitely/probably).

Then 29% of remainers and 49% of leavers don’t believe in climate change.

If I split the vote of those climate change deniers by the same proportion, Is it therefore correct to say 1.8 million climate change deniers voted remain and 3.0 million climate change deniers voted leave. ???

This is an overestimate of the numbers because it completely disregards the likelihood that climate change deniers voted AT ALL. I think 28% of the whole population didn’t vote.

I have to go out today - but as far as I could tell from a quick look - the climate change data for the UK was based on responses from 679 Remain voters and 692 Leave voters (other responders didn't vote in the referendum). Another point to add - the survey was funded by the EU.

So there we go, it seems both anecdotally and the numbers point to me being right. God help us now that these people are in charge.

On the interpretation of my (unchecked) figures, that possibly 1.8 million climate change deniers voted remain and 3 million voted leave, I am really disappointed that your reaction kenndodd is

god help us now that these people are in charge

Do you mean leavers?? Are you using this information to as the basis of a statement that leave voters are ignorant/selfish/stupid? (As I would personally think of climate change deniers.)

You are making the “link” the wrong way round. Various people said at the outset that you can make the correlation one way but not the other.

It’s hardly a significant number of leave or remain voters is it?

There are definitely links with regard to funding of right wing political causes and climat change denial, e.g.: www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/opinion/sunday/david-koch-climate-change.html

I’m 100% with you on that catlady3 and it’s easy to see a motive for multimillionaires such as the one you posted about.

But what has that got to do with the matter at hand?
how many of the 17.4 million British people who voted for brexit were right wing political funders/lobbyists??