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AIBU Disagreement on wedding seating

430 replies

RoyalnGeneral · 03/10/2019 08:52

Wedding one. Some details changed but I am not any of the four people involved.

I have a friend, Alice who suffers from anxiety (relevant). Alice got married to Ben about 18 months ago. Ben is a laid back ‘try to keep everyone happy’ type of guy. Alice and Ben are friends with another couple, Carl and Donna. Ben and Carl have been best friends for over 20 yrs. Alice and Donna worked together for several years but now work at different organisations.

Carl and Donna have announced they will be getting married next spring and Carl asked Ben to be his best man. Planning was going well until seating arrangements were discussed when it turned out Ben would be sitting at the top table while Alice would be at a guest table. Alice was upset and said she didn’t know anyone at the wedding and didn’t want to sit with strangers. She wanted to sit next to Ben at the top table.

Ben spoke to C&D and asked if Alice could sit with him. Carl and Donna said no, they understood it wasn’t ideal but that A&B would only be separated for a few hours. Alice said if she couldn't sit at the top table then she wanted Ben to sit at her guest table and do his speech from there. C&D refused again as they wanted Ben at the top table with Carl, so he could do the toasts/ read the messages/ keep people on time.

Things went back and forth without resolution, then last weekend Carl phoned Ben and uninvited him from being best man. A&B are still invited to the wedding and can now sit together at the guest table. The new best man will sit at the top table. The best man’s wife will be sitting with friends at another guest table.

Alice told me about this last night. She was taken aback that Ben had been uninvited. She said that at her wedding she hadn’t cared about wedding party only at the top table. What was important to her was that her guests felt comfortable and she didn’t think it was fair she had been expected to sit by herself with people she didn’t know.

I said that while Alice hadn't minded who sat at the top table at her wedding, Carl and Donna seem to want a more traditional approach. Also, C&D have accommodated Alice’s request to sit with Ben, although not in the way Alice expected. Carl will now have his best man with him at the top table, as he wants, and the best man’s wife will be sitting with people she knows, so perhaps it is the best compromise C&D can come up with, given the circumstances.

Alice disagreed. She said C&D are overreacting and she doesn’t see why she couldn’t been seated with Ben in the first place. She isn't sure she wants to go to the wedding now as she thinks it will be awkward.

AIBU to think Alice should have accepted C&D’s initial refusal and not continued to insist on sitting with Ben?

I know Alice’s anxiety means she finds these situations stressful so perhaps C&D could have been more sympathetic. But it’s C&D’s wedding day which I tend to think puts the onus on A&B to try to accomodate their friends' wishes.

OP posts:
AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 11:34

Alice is an annoying asshole

AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 11:36

I'm with Alice on this one. Who splits up married couples?

Most people at any wedding I've ever been to? wedding party and bride & grooms parents sit at the top table, partners of bridal party sit at another table....it's a couple of hours jesus

Lowlandlucky · 03/10/2019 11:38

Alice is not a child, she is a grown woman who felt mature enough to get married, so now she needs to act like an adult.

TamarindCove · 03/10/2019 11:39

Alice should have declined the daytime invitation and just attended for the evening.

Zeldasmagicwand · 03/10/2019 11:39

Alice is a manipulating minx.
If it was genuinely about her anxiety, she would surely be pleased that the B&G have offered a solution to allow her DH to sit with her for the meal?

Nope. She's just annoyed that she's not getting her way and sitting at the top table so that's why she's throwing a strop and threatening not to go.

If I was the B&G, I'd be re-thinking my friendship with Alice.

BottleOfJameson · 03/10/2019 11:40

Another one who thinks Alice is BU. I don't have much time for people who think their wedding is the most important thing in the world but it's hardly much to ask. If she was so uncomfortable she should have just not gone to the meal rather than expecting everyone else to rearrange themselves for her.

HolyheadBound · 03/10/2019 11:42

Well, I've also been to many many weddings and have never been seated next to my husband. In fact, the only wedding where I've ever been seated next to my husband was my own! Maybe we're older and therefore it's all more traditional.

And as for the whole "comfortable" thing, is it really the case that grown-ups can't bear to be separated from their partners for an hour and a half at a dinner to be sociable with other people?? That's weird. Really weird.

SoupDragon · 03/10/2019 11:42

I do have sympathy for Alice because I would hate it too but she was being unreasonable. Fine to ask if she could sit with Ben but she should have accepted the first refusal and dropped it.

Oohrhubarb1 · 03/10/2019 11:42

We had a very similar situation over our wedding - DH's closest friend from school was his best man and so in keeping with tradition we put him on the top table. His girlfriend, who he'd been with for about a year but we'd met maybe half a dozen times, threw a hissy fit because she was not to be seated at the top table with him. We tried to be as accommodating as possible, seating her with other friends of ours whom she'd already met and could chat to, but she wasn't happy. Best man also suggested that he didn't sit at top table but with her; like the couple in the OP we weren't happy with this either as it would look odd if best man were to sit elsewhere. The way we got round it in the end was to seat GF at a table closest to top table, and her seat closest to best man on the end. So they weren't sitting together but were nearby and could speak to one another some of the time. Obviously she must have simmered over this for some time because roll on 4 years later when they got married themselves, best friend asked my DH to be best man, and pointedly sat him at the top table with me sat on totally the other side of the room as a kind of tit for tat thing! (Didn't bother me though, it was literally for the duration of the meal!)
Alice is being very unreasonable here in expecting C&D's wedding day to revolve around her, and I do feel sorry for her husband at having been demoted from best man duties for her tantrum!!

viques · 03/10/2019 11:44

Alice is being ridiculous. How does she cope during the day when she and Ben are apart, or do they work at adjoining desks?

Unless there is a drip feed whereby she needs Ben to cut up her meat and the guest table was located in another room of the venue then she has behaved abominably rudely, has been called out on her behaviour and is STILL trying to manipulate the situation. C and D have responded well, but I can imagine their fingers itching to tippex Alice and Ben off the guest list entirely.

kmammamalto · 03/10/2019 11:44

I agree with @thetideishigh. I have anxiety and manage it okay but the idea of being seated at the top table with everyone looking at me wondering who the f I was, would make me stay home. Surely if the boys have been friends for so long there would be someone else there she knows vaguely.
Drawing so much attention to yourself over something so small seems an odd way for someone with anxiety to behave to me, but I do understand that everyone is different. It's done now and probably caused repercussions for their friendships.

SoupDragon · 03/10/2019 11:44

That's weird. Really weird.

No, it's called being extremely uncomfortable in sociaI situations. I'm shit at socialising. Truly shit. I can answer questions but can not make conversation, I just "freeze" in my mind.

StarryNightWithGrazingDeer · 03/10/2019 11:49

Went to a wedding recently where they handled something similar in a better way.

Best man was at top table. Wife was sat at guest table right in front of top table, in a seat that was very close to the top table but angled so they could look at one another (so she didn’t have her back to him). So at 11 on the clock face, rather than 12 IYSWIM.

During all gaps between courses, best man came over and spoke to his wife. After pudding but before coffee, he basically moved tables and they shared a seat.

To be fair, she was also sat at a table with a few friends. They arranged a swap so one female friend was sat on either side of her. They asked me and DH and others at table if we minded moving round one to accommodate this, everyone was happy to. Also, bride’s mother works in wedding industry, so lots of experience in the area.

To be honest, I don’t think Alice was unreasonable in asking to be considered. Maybe she would have done better to not suggest a particular outcome re seating.

I think demoting the best man was at best heavy handed, at worst harsh and crass. There could have been another way without getting hung up on top table seating.

TBH, I’d suspect something else at play here, some kind of power struggle either within or between a couple. Maybe the groom wan’t to come first with best man, maybe Alice wan’t to come first not groom, maybe the two best friends are drifting apart, maybe the bride wan’t to come first with groom not best man, maybe two women only get along for the sake of their spouses. If everyone genuinely always got along and had affection for one another this would have been handled differently

RainbowsAndGlitterAndUnicorns · 03/10/2019 11:49

Alice is being VU as is her husband for even asking the couple to do the seating that way. I say this as someone with anxiety!

Frannyhy · 03/10/2019 11:50

She sounds as selfish and neurotic as a friend of mine. I know she can’t help her anxiety but she is so much of a pain in the arse, I won’t have her to stay again.

Huskylover1 · 03/10/2019 11:57

Alice is a KNOB

SmileCheese · 03/10/2019 11:57

Best man was at top table. Wife was sat at guest table right in front of top table, in a seat that was very close to the top table but angled so they could look at one another

Nothing that the Op has said about Alice suggests that this would have been an acceptable outcome for her. It sounds like it was very much I want to be on the top table and nothing else will do. This is compounded by the fact that now Ben is no longer best man and they are seated together at another table she is still not happy.

Huskylover1 · 03/10/2019 11:59

Best man was at top table. Wife was sat at guest table right in front of top table, in a seat that was very close to the top table but angled so they could look at one another (so she didn’t have her back to him)

HOW DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS COPE WITH NORMAL LIFE???????

OUTRAGEOUSLY RIDICULOUS.

ivykaty44 · 03/10/2019 12:00

Alice has now made everyone rearrange the plans & now decides she doesn’t want to go to the wedding - Alice is behaving dreadfully, especially when everyone has made her feel comfortable 😮

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 03/10/2019 12:00

Anyone else think the OP is Alice?

sashh · 03/10/2019 12:01

I once went to a wedding of people I didn't really know, I was invited as the +1 of the best man's girlfriend.

It's a bit late now but I thought it was a great idea.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 12:04

No, it's called being extremely uncomfortable in sociaI situations.

Yeah but so uncomfortable that you demand to be seated at the top table? come on

ChuckleBuckles · 03/10/2019 12:07

It says in the opening post she had anxiety! That is worse than just being socially awkward. Wine isn’t a cure

Check the label to make sure you are administering the wine correctly in the right dosage, you might just need to up the dose,under a barman's supervision of course.

On topic: Alice needs help for her anxiety and her DH needs to stop trying to manage it for her by campaigning to get others to change around her wants and needs.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/10/2019 12:07

Anyone else think the OP is Alice?

The OP seems to think Alice is BU so i doubt it

Huskylover1 · 03/10/2019 12:08

No, it's called being extremely uncomfortable in sociaI situations

Ha! She sounds quite bolshy and bossy to me.