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AIBU Disagreement on wedding seating

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RoyalnGeneral · 03/10/2019 08:52

Wedding one. Some details changed but I am not any of the four people involved.

I have a friend, Alice who suffers from anxiety (relevant). Alice got married to Ben about 18 months ago. Ben is a laid back ‘try to keep everyone happy’ type of guy. Alice and Ben are friends with another couple, Carl and Donna. Ben and Carl have been best friends for over 20 yrs. Alice and Donna worked together for several years but now work at different organisations.

Carl and Donna have announced they will be getting married next spring and Carl asked Ben to be his best man. Planning was going well until seating arrangements were discussed when it turned out Ben would be sitting at the top table while Alice would be at a guest table. Alice was upset and said she didn’t know anyone at the wedding and didn’t want to sit with strangers. She wanted to sit next to Ben at the top table.

Ben spoke to C&D and asked if Alice could sit with him. Carl and Donna said no, they understood it wasn’t ideal but that A&B would only be separated for a few hours. Alice said if she couldn't sit at the top table then she wanted Ben to sit at her guest table and do his speech from there. C&D refused again as they wanted Ben at the top table with Carl, so he could do the toasts/ read the messages/ keep people on time.

Things went back and forth without resolution, then last weekend Carl phoned Ben and uninvited him from being best man. A&B are still invited to the wedding and can now sit together at the guest table. The new best man will sit at the top table. The best man’s wife will be sitting with friends at another guest table.

Alice told me about this last night. She was taken aback that Ben had been uninvited. She said that at her wedding she hadn’t cared about wedding party only at the top table. What was important to her was that her guests felt comfortable and she didn’t think it was fair she had been expected to sit by herself with people she didn’t know.

I said that while Alice hadn't minded who sat at the top table at her wedding, Carl and Donna seem to want a more traditional approach. Also, C&D have accommodated Alice’s request to sit with Ben, although not in the way Alice expected. Carl will now have his best man with him at the top table, as he wants, and the best man’s wife will be sitting with people she knows, so perhaps it is the best compromise C&D can come up with, given the circumstances.

Alice disagreed. She said C&D are overreacting and she doesn’t see why she couldn’t been seated with Ben in the first place. She isn't sure she wants to go to the wedding now as she thinks it will be awkward.

AIBU to think Alice should have accepted C&D’s initial refusal and not continued to insist on sitting with Ben?

I know Alice’s anxiety means she finds these situations stressful so perhaps C&D could have been more sympathetic. But it’s C&D’s wedding day which I tend to think puts the onus on A&B to try to accomodate their friends' wishes.

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HolyheadBound · 03/10/2019 10:42

I'm with Alice on this one. Who splits up married couples?

erm....EVERYONE!

You don't seat couples together at a sit down meal.

Also, Alice is being entirely unreasonable.

By the way, one of DH's favourite nights ever was getting absolutely rat-arsed with my school friends while I sat at the table (I was a bridesmaid) being relatively well behaved.

Was a great night! I have Generalised Anxiety Disorder - Alice needs to have a word with herself.

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HolyheadBound · 03/10/2019 10:44

Anxiety is a really big problem. However, in my experience people with real anxiety are not the ones stirring things up and getting people to rearrange things to suit them. They are the ones declining invitations or finding excuses not to go. And they would not be asking to sit at the top table which surely would be an anxiety trigger?

Exactly. Or they are the ones who spend a good bit of time beforehand figuring out how they will mask and get through the evening, until they are reunited with their partner. Also, what is she going to do once dinner is over? Cling to Ben's hand all night?

Ridiculous.

diddl · 03/10/2019 10:45

Perhaps if Alice & Ben had approached it differently ?

But just asking if it can all revolve around what Alice wants & then not listening to the answer was never really going to work, was it?

FrangipaniBlue · 03/10/2019 10:46

Not only is Alice being VVVVVU, but if she now chucks her toys out the pram and doesn't go I'd be even MORE pissed off if I was C&D because that means Ben will now be sat on a guest table by himself when he could've just been the best man all along!!!!!

SciFiScream · 03/10/2019 10:47

It looks like A has come off best! She gets the company of her husband right next to her for as long as she wants and needs it.

C and D have been kind and gracious by going with a second choice best man to ensure A feels comfortable on the day.

B has to live with the fact he was stood down as best man in order to be there for his wife.

I think C and D have done the best they could in very difficult circumstances. The only person not compromising is A. Everyone else has changed to accommodate her.

A is BVU.

diddl · 03/10/2019 10:48

If Alice doesn't go, won't Ben also decline?

If she does go, it'll only be awkward if she makes it so imo!

MrsCasares · 03/10/2019 10:49

Alice sounds like a nightmare. The weddings not about her, it’s about the bride and groom.

Alice needs to grow up. Poor Ben, married to Alice.

AhNowTed · 03/10/2019 10:52

LOL demanding to sit at the top table.

Guestzilla!

ShartGoblin · 03/10/2019 10:56

I've been in Alices situation, it's horrible. I probably wouldn't have been brave enough to ask and would have made a polite excuse instead. Since she's close to the bride and groom I don't see what's so wrong with asking, pushing the matter isn't on but asking in the first place - not really unreasonable.

I'm getting married next year and the first thing I decided on with the seating plan is that I'm not having my maid of honour on the top table, her partner doesn't know anyone so there's no way I'd invite him and make him sit alone. I want everyone I care about to be comfortable and happy so I pretty much completely agree with Alice's view of things, I only disagree with her thinking that others should share the same view.

Bibidy · 03/10/2019 11:00

With everyone else, Alice is being totally unreasonable to demand she sits on the top table or that the best man sits with her on a random guest table.

If she felt so strongly she should have explained her situation and said she wouldn't attend.

ladyratterley · 03/10/2019 11:01

It's hard enough doing seating plans for a wedding without someone like Alice sticking their oar in!
I've recently done the plans for mine. I did consider that a couple of the partners of the best men & bridesmaids might not know many people. So asked if the best men & bridesmaids if their partners would mind not being on the top table. They were fine with it because they're not massive drama llamas, and it's only for an hour or two while you eat and listen to speeches.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 03/10/2019 11:03

I only made it though the first couple of paragraphs but Alice sounds like a nightmare. Anxiety doesn't mean you get to dictate someone else's wedding. If she's that upset about it, she doesn't go. End of.

IAmALazyArse · 03/10/2019 11:03

I would uninvite A😮 Completely. But that would mean B wouldn't come and that would be a shame. I seriously think Alice is still invited purely because groom understandably REALLY wants his best mate. I don't see much socialising amongst them in a future sadly.
Way to go Alice🙄

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 03/10/2019 11:04

You don't seat couples together at a sit down meal.

We did because we wanted people to feel comfortable!

In Alice's situation I would probably have declined the invitation if I genuinely didn't know anyone and gone to the evening only. I don't enjoy talking to people I don't know and I'm no good at small talk so wouldn't feel comfortable. However there's no way I would have asked the bride and groom to change their seating plan to accommodate my issues!

NoParticularPattern · 03/10/2019 11:07

Just because Alice is a people pleaser and just wanted everyone to have a nice time doesn’t mean that Carl and Donna have to toe the same line. She sounds like she has an awful lot of brass neck for someone whose anxiety is so bad that she couldn’t possibly be apart from her husband for a couple of hours. What on earth does she do when she goes out of the house? Or is she also a hermit? Honestly I get that anxiety can be crippling, but the type of person who has anxiety as badly as Alice appears to does not often have the confidence to continually insist that plans change to to suit them. I’d be mortified if I were Alice and I feel exceptionally sorry for her husband.

NearlyGranny · 03/10/2019 11:10

Hmm, rearranging life to accommodate one person's anxiety doesn't help their anxiety and it inconveniences everyone else.

I'd bend over backwards to support an anxious person through a job interview or exam or flight or their own wedding, but not this. Not someone else's big day!

Deathraystare · 03/10/2019 11:12

No help for you but my Godson avoided this problem (problem of parents splitting up etc) he and his wife had a 'sweetheart' table for two and the rest of us were all around on other tables. It worked out fine but it looks like the bridge and groom here want tradition.

Ragwort · 03/10/2019 11:21

Perhaps Alice should just have declined in the first place, if her anxiety is that bad surely she wouldn’t enjoy the wedding much anyway, whoever she is sitting next to. Then Ben could have gone alone and supported his good friend as Best Man.

If I was Ben I would be hugely disappointed and frustrated at having such a needy wife.

ImNotYourGranny · 03/10/2019 11:21

Alice is a pain in the arse. The anxiety is not a valid excuse. I suffer from severe anxiety and see a psychologist every week because of it. Hell would freeze over before I'd push to sit at the top table of a wedding. All those facing looking in my direction. I feel the panic now just thinking about it. I didn't even sit at the top table for my own wedding for the same reason.

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Dinosauratemydaffodils · 03/10/2019 11:25

Alice is unreasonable and I say that with a diagnosis of GAD and PTSD. I've been to a few weddings where dh and I were seated apart and it was stressful but only for a few hours and I managed (and even made a couple of friends).

MadisonAvenue · 03/10/2019 11:28

I'm with Alice on this one. Who splits up married couples?

erm....EVERYONE!

You don't seat couples together at a sit down meal.

I've been to many weddings and sit down meals and have always been seated next to my husband.

IAmALazyArse · 03/10/2019 11:30

I've been to many weddings and sit down meals and have always been seated next to my husband.

Was he always the best man? Because that makes all the difference and that's why it's not unreasonable in this case.

Brakebackcyclebot · 03/10/2019 11:31

Agree with other PPs.

Alice is being very unreasonable. She needs to seek help for her anxiety if it means she can't sit apart from her DH for a couple of hours. I feel sorry for her DH with the pressure that puts him under, not just at this wedding but every day.

Alice has lots of time to get help and work out a way to handle this situation and manage her anxiety.

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