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AIBU Disagreement on wedding seating

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RoyalnGeneral · 03/10/2019 08:52

Wedding one. Some details changed but I am not any of the four people involved.

I have a friend, Alice who suffers from anxiety (relevant). Alice got married to Ben about 18 months ago. Ben is a laid back ‘try to keep everyone happy’ type of guy. Alice and Ben are friends with another couple, Carl and Donna. Ben and Carl have been best friends for over 20 yrs. Alice and Donna worked together for several years but now work at different organisations.

Carl and Donna have announced they will be getting married next spring and Carl asked Ben to be his best man. Planning was going well until seating arrangements were discussed when it turned out Ben would be sitting at the top table while Alice would be at a guest table. Alice was upset and said she didn’t know anyone at the wedding and didn’t want to sit with strangers. She wanted to sit next to Ben at the top table.

Ben spoke to C&D and asked if Alice could sit with him. Carl and Donna said no, they understood it wasn’t ideal but that A&B would only be separated for a few hours. Alice said if she couldn't sit at the top table then she wanted Ben to sit at her guest table and do his speech from there. C&D refused again as they wanted Ben at the top table with Carl, so he could do the toasts/ read the messages/ keep people on time.

Things went back and forth without resolution, then last weekend Carl phoned Ben and uninvited him from being best man. A&B are still invited to the wedding and can now sit together at the guest table. The new best man will sit at the top table. The best man’s wife will be sitting with friends at another guest table.

Alice told me about this last night. She was taken aback that Ben had been uninvited. She said that at her wedding she hadn’t cared about wedding party only at the top table. What was important to her was that her guests felt comfortable and she didn’t think it was fair she had been expected to sit by herself with people she didn’t know.

I said that while Alice hadn't minded who sat at the top table at her wedding, Carl and Donna seem to want a more traditional approach. Also, C&D have accommodated Alice’s request to sit with Ben, although not in the way Alice expected. Carl will now have his best man with him at the top table, as he wants, and the best man’s wife will be sitting with people she knows, so perhaps it is the best compromise C&D can come up with, given the circumstances.

Alice disagreed. She said C&D are overreacting and she doesn’t see why she couldn’t been seated with Ben in the first place. She isn't sure she wants to go to the wedding now as she thinks it will be awkward.

AIBU to think Alice should have accepted C&D’s initial refusal and not continued to insist on sitting with Ben?

I know Alice’s anxiety means she finds these situations stressful so perhaps C&D could have been more sympathetic. But it’s C&D’s wedding day which I tend to think puts the onus on A&B to try to accomodate their friends' wishes.

OP posts:
lottiegarbanzo · 04/10/2019 13:15

Maybe, but a person who feels anxious about being the centre of attention probably would think about that.

Anyway, you might want to catch up on OP's posts. The wedding happened years ago.

L0bstersLass · 04/10/2019 13:19

Alice needs to understand that the world doesn't revolve around her. A solution was found to accommodate her concerns when there was no onus to find a solution in the first place. The fact that she didn't like the solution is tough luck. If it was that much of a big deal she should not have gone to the wedding. She was trying to get her own way and it's backfired.

Anxiety is horrible, but the rest of the world does not have to change plans because of it.

windandme · 04/10/2019 13:27

Maybe she wanted to go, felt fine and up to going, but just needed the comfort blanket of him by her side to not feel overwhelmed.

If you don't get bad anxiety you won't understand though.

With all due respect, bollocks. I suffer from severe anxiety and if this would have been an issue for me I would not have gone.

Taking the best man away from his position?! Unbelievable. She sounds incredibly selfish.

Honestly, I really think some people with anxiety are pandered to far too much and then their behaviour becomes a blurred line of spoilt entitlement and expected the whole world to bow down to them and makes them worse.

People that are close to me will make exceptions when I bow out of a social event or even if they see me out and I'm a little weird or brusque sometimes but I don't expect anyone to have to change things for me or arrange things around me.

Because I'm not a princess and I realise that other people and their lives are just as important as me and mine.

Hmm
3luckystars · 04/10/2019 14:09

Trying to dictate someone else's wedding seating plan is unreasonable.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 04/10/2019 14:10

Which is why Alice at the top table too would have been a better solution then people who pearl clutch at the best man sat in the wrong place wouldn't even notice that Alice was top tabling too.

It’s not about ‘pearl clutching’. The bride and groom decided who they wanted at their own top table and stuck to it. It’s hardly unusual.

3luckystars · 04/10/2019 14:10

(and she will know people at the wedding.)

pumkinspicetime · 04/10/2019 14:42

Alice needs to work on her mental health issues.
Her DH needs to enable her less, it isn't going to help in the long run.

Witchend · 04/10/2019 15:15

If she's got anxiety, then I think she'd have struggled at the top table and feeling everyone was looking at her-and tbf there would be a certain amount of "who's that sitting on the top table."

AryaStarkWolf · 04/10/2019 15:23

Why should they change it? Because, while it's a nice to have, it's not critical to the success of the wedding. Does it really matter who is in charge of the microphone - no - it's a minor detail. Carl and Donna are the hosts of their wedding - hosts - or at least, hosts who are familiar with the rudiments of good manners - shouldn't put trivialities above the comfort of their guests.

But it clearly isn't a triviality to them, if it were they would have agreed to Alice request. why should what Alice wants trump what they want?

The best man wouldn't have had to stand up and make his speech at the guest table - he could have made his way to the top table, made his speech and then gone back. I doubt anyone would have thought anything of it, if they even noticed he was sitting somewhere else for the rest of the meal.

In any wedding I've ever been to the Best Man didn't just do his speech, he was also the MC, introduced each speaker, made announcements about the meal/drinks etc

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 04/10/2019 15:25

and tbf there would be a certain amount of "who's that sitting on the top table.

I just can't get into that mentality - I mean who the fuck cares or even notices who's sat where?! Grin
I can honestly say I've been to tons of weddings over the years with top tables, and never noticed or cared if partners are sat up there or not.
People get so weird about weddings lol

lottiegarbanzo · 04/10/2019 16:44

Who the fuck cares? A person with anxiety who imagines people are going to be staring at them, even when they're not, surely?

I find your posts very contradictory Wotcha

First If you don't get bad anxiety you won't understand though. Followed by a series of posts stating that you are only capable of seeing things from your own particular - not noticing, not caring about who sits where - point of view, and think everybody else should be the same as you.

Should people try to look at things from others' point of view, or should they not? Which is it?

ScreamingValenta · 04/10/2019 17:00

why should what Alice wants trump what they want?

And that's the problematic attitude that causes so much human strife - instead of looking at what we can do to make life easier for others, we look instead at who has the most 'right' to have their wants granted, and we end up playing a complicated game of top trumps which no one can ever win?

Does Alice's anxiety trump Carl and Donna's desire for a perfect wedding? Is an Instagram-worthy wedding more important than the happiness and comfort of the guests?

Everyone will have a different answer, but if we turn the question round - what could Alice, as a guest, do to make the occasion pleasant? What can Carl and Donna, as hosts, do to make sure all their guests feel comfortable? - a little flexibility and consideration for others, exercised by either side, would solve the issue.

AryaStarkWolf · 04/10/2019 17:02

a little flexibility and consideration for others, exercised by either side, would solve the issue.

Which they were and she still wasn't happy.......

Luluinkent · 04/10/2019 17:34

Their wedding, their seating plan! Alice sounds a pain in the arse...

ilovecoffeemorethanmykids · 04/10/2019 17:48

I have anxiety. Quite bad anxiety at times. A social situation that means sitting with strangers would make me very uncomfortable. However, I would either a) suck it up, get myself psyched up to do it, using various cbt and therapy techniques I’ve been taught or b) be very apologetic and say that if it’s ok, I’ll come to the wedding ceremony but not attend the meal. That way I’d get to be at the wedding in a way that was comfortable but not be where I wasn’t comfortable. Also it would mean my other half could be best man and not feel awful about my being anxious and not in great shape.
If they want a traditional wedding then the best man’s other half isn’t at the top table unless she’s also part of the main wedding party, ie a bridesmaid or something.
Alice needs help. Anxiety is real and bloody awful but I don’t expect the world to revolve around me. Tolerate me to a certain extent but not pander.
The only other option if I had been the bride would have possibly been finding someone on the table Alice would be at and having her meet or chat to them before the day so she did know someone and would be ok but that’s probably not something everyone would go out of their way to do and I wouldn’t expect it.

Robin2323 · 04/10/2019 17:49

They just want a traditional wedding.
Maybe be dreaming about it for a long time.
(I totally get anxiety) and wouldn't want to sit on my own while dh was in the top table BUT I wouldn't want him to miss out being best man for his buddy.

niugboo · 04/10/2019 17:57

Alice is a camel.

LouH1981 · 04/10/2019 17:58

I’ve been to at least three weddings where my hubby has been an usher and we’ve been separated. It’s not ideal when you are on a table of strangers but it’s only for an hour or so. I think Alice is being unreasonable.
Seating at a top table is so limited, it’s unfair of her to expect there to be a place for her. I’m sure there are other people (family) they would probably prefer to have there instead if they could. Sorry Alice!

parentin · 04/10/2019 18:08

Is it just me, im assuming Alice dont work or leave the house without Ben, if she does then she could have sat at a table without him. Every wedding that i have attended where i have been maid of honour, my hubby has no issues with mingling, chatting. When my husband has been best man, i was not seated with him, but i never had a problem. But me and hubby are social bugs. We love a laugh and chat with others, a bit of girls or maybe new people, the amount of things you hear and learn. When me and hubby get home we have so much to tell each other. All fun. Alice has ruined this for Ben, and Ben will resent her for it one day

Molly564 · 04/10/2019 18:12

I know she has anxiety but it’s only a few hours. When my DH was best man i was sat on a table with only one person i knew (his friend) and at that time i didnt know it as well as i do now. This thing tends to happen!

However, when he was next best man the couple didnt have a top table and we were sat on the same table as the bride and groom. I was made up as i didnt really know anyone else but i wouldn’t have minded!

Molly564 · 04/10/2019 18:12

Him not it 😂

ButterscupsRevenge · 04/10/2019 18:22

I suppose at no point Alice said she would attend the evening do as it would be more suitable for all parties

Ragwort · 04/10/2019 18:23

Where is the OP ? I am intrigued as to why, when this scenario happened a few years ago, it is now being discussed again Confused.

MrsBadcrumble123 · 04/10/2019 18:35

Alice sounds like an utter nightmare! If she is going to be a massive baby then Why not arrange a meeting of her table-mates so she doesn’t only meet them on the day? But seriously Alice...grow up!!

Celestine70 · 04/10/2019 19:04

Alice might be unreasonable, but the lack of sympathy for her condition is shocking. It's no wonder people find it hard to discuss mental health.

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