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Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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TheMustressMhor · 01/10/2019 23:20

And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

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MauritiusNext · 03/10/2019 12:18

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escapade1234 · 03/10/2019 12:18

A lot of the drama with H&M stems from Harry being - dare I say - a bit lacking in the brains and awareness department. He is so completely unaware of himself, his privilege and his lack of higher education. He has no knowledge or expertise of anything but struts round the world lecturing and “teaching”. I really believe he’s a bit dim and therefore can’t process the advice given him by PR people or royal courtiers. Thick people very often think they know it all because they don’t have the awareness to realise their failings.

Meghan strikes me as far sharper but she is coming at this from a position of Hollywood celebrity where she gets to set the rules and parameters of her fame.

TatianaLarina · 03/10/2019 12:29

Well I'm 'whining' about it because the criticism of them is based on their hypocrisy.

That is merely a convenient justification for the need to whine. As I said, everyone is hypocritical on the environment unless they live in an organic wood hut.

Would you rather they prioritised the environment over the the safety of their baby by using insufficiently secure local cars? (That being the reason for importing the Range Rovers). Think of the flak they would have got if they had done that.

sue51 · 03/10/2019 12:37

I think H and M have every right and more than a little justification to take the mail on sunday to court, I do think the timing is wrong as it derails whatever message they were getting across on their African tour. I don't like them derailing work they are paid to do on the public's behalf.

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NoTheresa · 03/10/2019 12:40

Harry wants adulation and can't cope with criticism. He needs to have a chat with Camilla and learn how to handle it

What an excellent idea. At present he is behaving like an adult brat. Ugh

NoTheresa · 03/10/2019 12:41

A lot of the drama with H&M stems from Harry being - dare I say - a bit lacking in the brains and awareness department. He is so completely unaware of himself, his privilege and his lack of higher education. He has no knowledge or expertise of anything but struts round the world lecturing and “teaching”. I really believe he’s a bit dim and therefore can’t process the advice given him by PR people or royal courtiers. Thick people very often think they know it all because they don’t have the awareness to realise their failings.

You may have a point but I really think you are being a tad harsh!!

MissEliza · 03/10/2019 13:00

@escapade1234 I think that's very true.

MissEliza · 03/10/2019 13:09

By chance, I've just seen a video of Rhiannon Mills from Sky being spoken to quite rudely by Harry just for doing her job. She's not exactly the most aggressive reporter so I can't imagine why he thinks it's acceptable to do that.

SirVixofVixHall · 03/10/2019 13:28

I agree that Harry has been rumoured for many years to be a bit dim. Neither of them are particularly clever or they would be dealing with this differently.
William and Catherine hardly seem like brainboxes either though.

I think part of the problem is that Harry was so young losing his mother, he has had a huge amount of public sympathy, and his Mother was given virtual sainthood by many people when she died. Of course it was the most tragic death, a young woman in her prime, with two young sons who she adored. Whatever her other failings she seems to have been a very loving mother. But the absolute hysteria over her death was really rather strange and OTT.

Harry has been used to public affection, and now can’t cope with any criticism, and as pp said, does not seem able to put it in context. He is reacting emotionally rather than rationally.

To rake up the letter now, seems unwise. It isn’t the letter that is the reason people have mixed feelings about them both. Harry seems to have lots of unresolved anger over Diana’s death, blaming the palace suits, the media etc. Perhaps that is easier than looking at the roles of Charles, Camilla and Diana herself in the whole messy situation before she died ? Ultimately it was a tragic accident, even more so for having been avoidable .

I do think it must have been grim seeing a personal letter in print, but after Squidgy gate etc, there have been far more embarrassing things published. The tampon stuff for a start. Meghan must have realised her father might do this, she surely can predict his temperament and likely reaction to her fluff piece by friends ?

Dignified silence surely the way to go ?

BenWillbondsPants · 03/10/2019 13:31

I agree that Harry has been rumoured for many years to be a bit dim. Neither of them are particularly clever or they would be dealing with this differently.
William and Catherine hardly seem like brainboxes either though.

Rumoured being the word. Who believes this shit? 😂😂

justasking111 · 03/10/2019 13:35

My OH would defend me as I would defend him. Harry is being honourable by bringing this suit. You do not have to be super intelligent to feel for another human being, just be a caring human being.

PickedByYou · 03/10/2019 13:49

A lot of the drama with H&M stems from Harry being - dare I say - a bit lacking in the brains and awareness department. He is so completely unaware of himself, his privilege and his lack of higher education. He has no knowledge or expertise of anything but struts round the world lecturing and “teaching”. I really believe he’s a bit dim and therefore can’t process the advice given him by PR people or royal courtiers. Thick people very often think they know it all because they don’t have the awareness to realise their failings

I agree with this. You would think the younger royals would be more clued up. I’d follow the Queens example on how to behave if I wanted to be in the public.

I guess the problem with the royals is that they are surrounded by like minded sycophants who encourage them to believe that what they say is intelligent and worthwhile.
Harry reminds me Of Tim-nice-but-dim. 😅
I wonder what his wife thought of him shooting that buffalo when he was younger or what she thought of him wearing that nazi costume. We’ve all done silly things when we were younger but you would think he would have known better.
If I was Harry and Meghan I would keep out the public eye, keep my mouth shut, quietly do a bit of charity work and quietly enjoy my vast wealth and privileged lifestyle without being too ostentatious. How hard could that be. I don’t understand why they want to court the press.
Actually, if I was Harry I’d resign from being a royal altogether.

NoTheresa · 03/10/2019 14:02

@MissEliza

By chance, I've just seen a video of Rhiannon Mills from Sky being spoken to quite rudely by Harry just for doing her job. She's not exactly the most aggressive reporter so I can't imagine why he thinks it's acceptable to do that.

Saw that too. He came across as petulant and faintly pathetic. Can’t see William doing that.

Funghi · 03/10/2019 14:04

I’d follow the Queens example on how to behave if I wanted to be in the public.

The problem with this is the rhetoric surrounding the RF being archaic and needing ‘a shake up’ to move with the times. I can see how H&M will be encouraged to get involved with projects that are more relevant to society, such as conservation, but the trouble is that the RF way of living doesn’t lend itself to such projects. Instead it directly contradicts what they’re preaching.

They all need to just sink away into their palaces and leave current affairs to the experts.

NoTheresa · 03/10/2019 14:04

William and Catherine hardly seem like brainboxes either though.

Good God. Do tell the University of St Andrews your opinion of their Honours graduates. Are you sure you actually know what “brain box” means?

NoTheresa · 03/10/2019 14:05

The university is the third oldest in the UK and has a strong academic tradition and a good reputation! Lol

NoTheresa · 03/10/2019 14:06

To @BenWillbondsPants

BertrandRussell · 03/10/2019 14:11

“William and Catherine hardly seem like brainboxes either though.”

You do have to be reasonably intelligent to get a 2:1 from St Andrews......

Kit30 · 03/10/2019 14:15

Harry managed to redeem himself in public opinion even after the Afrika Corps/Nazi uniform photos , killing wild animals and various drunken/drug fuelled incidents (remember Prince Charles sending him to a rehab clinic ...for 2 hours) but now he's out of the place box behaving like an entitled narcissistic petulant knob and it looks increasingly like that's who HE is; nothing to do with his wife, just his true personality coming out.

MissEliza · 03/10/2019 14:16

@NoTheresa I actually feel sorry for her. She'd said and done nothing wrong and he spoke to her like she was an idiot.

justasking111 · 03/10/2019 14:23

I do wonder how many people on here insinuating how dim the royals are have ever entered a university let alone worked towards a degree.

angell84 · 03/10/2019 14:26

Wow Piers Morgan has alot of power doesn't he.

He has published a story today saying "Harry don't play the victim".

He is constantly attacking them. What can they do? He basically runs the daily mail and he has always been anti Meghan

angell84 · 03/10/2019 14:31

I have to say that Meghan was particulary stupid in her dealings with Piers Morgan. She should have never met him.

To meet the guy who runs the daily mail and then drop him - was setting herself up for a lot of problems.

I bet she wishes that she never met him

RoseQuartzGlow · 03/10/2019 14:34

I do wonder how many people on here insinuating how dim the royals are have ever entered a university let alone worked towards a degree.

Exactly. It's a strange definition of thick really. I wonder if all these people pronouncing Harry, William and Kate as thick have all got Firsts from Oxford in Physics ?

Interestingly, Meghan is never described as thick. She studied drama in the US. No idea how selective her University was but I doubt it was anything like as selective as St Andrews. She also doesn't seem to be academic particularly. I would guess if anyone suggested she wasn't super bright academically they would be labelled a racist though.