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Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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TheMustressMhor · 01/10/2019 23:20

And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

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joyfullittlehippo · 02/10/2019 19:09

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SaraNade · 02/10/2019 19:09

I am a fan of Angelina Jolie. I stopped reading the Daily Mail Online years back. Full of comments from people (mostly Aniston fans I believe) calling Angelina all manner of things, including making fun of self-harm and cutting, but mainly suggesting she runs child smuggling gangs, child-drug runs and far far worse (some things said re this are far too horrible and absolutely shocking so I'll spare you, except for 3 I saw on Facebook someone said they hoped Angelina died in a plain crash with the twins, or Zahara died of AIDS and one of the worst of all - that they hoped Angelina and her children were raped during her In The Land of Blood and Honey movie premiere about war rape), that Brad should take his "real" children and run, making horrible comments about the adopted children and their ethnicity, so racism tends to be a major running theme with that site.

When reflecting on the hatred of Angelina and Meghan, (both of whom are known for their work as UN Special Envoys) I often wonder where such hatred comes from. What makes someone hate someone so much, someone who to our and their knowledge hasn't done a thing to hurt anyone, but has only done good for others. I don't believe people should be deified - please don't get me wrong. However the sheer hatred of these two is just......where does it come from? Is it an inner jealousy/insecurity/frustration issue that the hater has, were they brought up racist as so full of hate for difference or anyone like Angelina who dared to have a someone quirky and unconventional early life, is difference so threatening to people? Is it a hatred of beautiful women? Is it a hatred of status? Of money? Or maybe of 'do-gooders' who maybe make the hater have an inadequacy complex? Or, I don't know, what? What happens in someone's life to make them has such viciousness, such hatred in their hearts? [deep, I know, but sometimes I just go into these despair/losing faith in humanity deep-pondering moments]

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 02/10/2019 19:11

I think this legal action is a mistake, everyone had forgotten about the letter

I dunno, I mean if my personal letter had apparently been published and edited to paint me in a negative light like is being claimed, I think I'd want to defend myself too!

She has taken a subservient role as the wife of a Prince, just accept that and enjoy the life of luxary ffs
Sit back quietly in the shadow of your husband, accept you have lots of shiny things like tiaras and money, and ignore the fact that all this apparently means you just have to sit back and let people throw whatever allegations/claims/smears/insults they like at you?
Fuck. That. Shit.

QualCheckBot · 02/10/2019 19:12

Winterlife Her father has not "repeatedly sold his own daughter out for money". He gave an interview for money, and sold her letter - both, after she effectively ghosted him.

She invited him to her wedding and then stopped contact after she was married. She wasn't treating him particularly kindly before those infamous photographs pre wedding and I can understand that he might have felt unwelcome. But there is no sympathy for her father (you would think he murdered kittens for a living the way some people go on or like to insinuate that they know something no-one else does).

We can have different views on her. I think she is a manipulative narcissist. That said, I think she has been treated unfairly by the press. But, so was Diana, so was Sarah Ferguson, and so was Kate Middleton. I think given time, the press would have turned around, as it did for the other women. Going to war with the press, which I suspect is Harry's idea, will not end well.

I agree. And I'm honestly fed up being told that I can't have an opinion. A very odd post was directed at me earlier, telling me that I couldn't have a different opinion, because the mumsnet view was pro-MM only, to the stage that she could not be challenged.

I really think that schools should teach the importance of tolerating alternative opinions. Its actually quite noticeable how the opinions on here expressed change from daytime to evening, when presumably less MM obsessed activists dominate. The aim is quite clearly to put off people who don't worship MM and the RF from posting, so as to give a false impression of her popularity.

SaraNade · 02/10/2019 19:15

Her father has not "repeatedly sold his own daughter out for money".
I guess you've forgotten the staged computer kiosk thing, the numerous tv and print articles?

I think she is a manipulative narcissist.
And what basis do you have for that, exactly?

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 02/10/2019 19:16

And what basis do you have for that, exactly?

I'm guessing either a tig blog told the poster or a gossip column....

QualCheckBot · 02/10/2019 19:17

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MyBlueMoonbeam · 02/10/2019 19:19

I agree. And I'm honestly fed up being told that I can't have an opinion. A very odd post was directed at me earlier, telling me that I couldn't have a different opinion, because the mumsnet view was pro-MM only, to the stage that she could not be challenged.

I had a post deleted earlier too - you are not able to criticize MM in any way on here seemingly 🙄

SaraNade · 02/10/2019 19:21

According to the letter he sold, he was the one who ghosted her after she stopped giving him money, not the other way around. She organised flights, clothes, and made all the arrangements for him to come to London before the wedding, and was repeatedly phoning him leaving messages begging him to get on the plane, and he ghosted her. Then acted affronted when she stopped trying.

Well said! But the irrational haters will never let facts get in the way of their Daily Mail version of Meghan they have created in their head, and they'll be damned if they ever admit they were wrong to believe all the lies written about her. Hmm

joyfullittlehippo · 02/10/2019 19:21

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TatianaLarina · 02/10/2019 19:22

What makes someone hate someone so much

It’s simply self hatred, rage and frustration projected outwards.

That’s all this hating on people you’ve never met amounts to.

TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 19:23

A very odd post was directed at me earlier, telling me that I couldn't have a different opinion, because the mumsnet view was pro-MM only, to the stage that she could not be challenged

I do not think that this thread shows only pro-MM posters. There are a wide variety of opinions being expressed.

I think you're right about the morning/evening divide, though.

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CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 02/10/2019 19:24

Going back slightly, what was wrong with Diana being described as an English Rose? Was she not English? I am confused.

DoctorTwo · 02/10/2019 19:24

I like Meghan. She comes across as a lovely human being, clearly adores Harry and was an indepentently successful woman before marrying into the royal family. And she's bloomin' gorgeous...

SaraNade · 02/10/2019 19:28

Oh the irony of a hateful poster who out of nowhere attacked me unprovoked earlier, and comes back to make a yet unprovoked attack. Projection and deflection. Proof that there really are some hateful, nasty pieces of work on here who are projecting, probably with a guilty conscience. Lets hope mods do some cleaning up, or the night shift.

QualCheckBot · 02/10/2019 19:30

joyfullittlehippo The existence of daily Meghan bashing threads disproves that.

I mentioned earlier that theres not much point in having a RF if you can't discuss them. That's one of the few pleasures we get out of having them. Its like a living soap opera.

If Meghan bashers learned to express their opinions without racist comments or name-calling and personal abuse then their posts and threads wouldn’t be deleted so often.

The problem is that everything anyone says to critically analyse MM is categorised by her defenders as being "personally abusive" or "racist". So discussion is prevented. I think that all that a few posters want to see is syncophantic posts about how "lovely" MM is, etc.. I have an image of some posters surrounded by Royal memorabilia and cut out pictures from gossip magazines

Yabbers · 02/10/2019 19:30

spend on Frogmore House from the public purse

The spending from the public purse was for necessary structural repairs, rewording etc. The money for the stuff the couple wanted was from their own funds. The Royal Household is really careful about what is public and what is private money. They have to be because it is so scrutinised. The same is true of the works happening at Windsor at the moment. People are claiming they are spending public money when actually, they aren’t. These buildings belong to the nation and must be kept in a decent state of repair. They have held off spending money on Buckingham Palace for so long (because of the court of public opinion) it is now costing way more than it should do to make it safe.

Same has happened with parliament. The public need to understand these buildings we own as a nation need to be spending money on them or we will lose them.

TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 19:33

@CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook

I think the comment about the English Rose had a lot more to do with Elton John's awful rendition of Candle in the Wind at the Princess of Wales' funeral.

I accept that this is a subjective view, though.

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SaraNade · 02/10/2019 19:34

If Meghan bashers learned to express their opinions without racist comments or name-calling and personal abuse then their posts and threads wouldn’t be deleted so often.

Too true, joyfullittlehippo unfortunately there are some truly vile people out there who cannot discuss anything with either racism or personal abuse, or both. There is one particular one on this thread who seems rather obsessed with me, I'll let the Mods do their job on that one. My guess is that most of these are newbie trolls who go looking for fights whenever they get Meghan Markle on their Google Alerts.

crosstalk · 02/10/2019 19:43

IMHO this is seriously bad timing. However, as I understand, the court case was initiated a while ago.

It does seem to me that they should be sat down with their pr team and the palace so they learn to distinguish between righteous anger and misplaced anger.

Righteous anger might be the constant mention of the cost of Meghan's clothes while Kate's recycling is trumpeted on the same page just as clickbait for trolls - especially when Meghan is not quite long enough in the job to recycle. Publishing what seems to have been a somewhat edited letter another. Reporting what trolls say as public perception (Diana was lucky inasmuch as she avoided social media). Hunting her dysfunctional family down possibly another especially when they're paid and provoked to spill.

Inappropriate anger is over coverage of their hypocrisy in being woke green and flying multiple private jets for holidays, having friends like Elton chip in, and Harry saying it was all about his family's safety. And flying to a mega baby party in NY.

I think there should be repeated transparency about who pays for what in the RF all round.

MrsJoshNavidi · 02/10/2019 19:47

Diana did court the press though. The attention was ok when it suited her. I don't buy in to the St Diana thing.

TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 19:48

I think there should be repeated transparency about who pays for what in the RF all round.

Agreed. This is unlikely to happen though.

I do not think that Elton John's chipping in did the Sussexes any favours.

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TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 19:48

Can you elaborate @MrsJoshNavidi?

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MrsJoshNavidi · 02/10/2019 19:49

And we did pay for their house, and she has got some bloody expensive frocks.

TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 19:49

I mean, do you think that Diana deserved the unwanted press attention or do you think that she enjoyed it when it suited her?

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