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To refuse to ever eat in my mum's company again

225 replies

Botanic · 27/09/2019 10:17

Regardless of the impact on family dynamics.

I’m nearing 40, with 5 kids, and I’m on the upper end of the healthy weight for my height. Probably a large size 12, but I am 5ft 9. I’m also fit, I can cycle miles of hilly ground with the youngest two on the bike. I can run, jog and swim to a decent degree and I do yoga daily. I am strong with some bulky muscle, I can push a double buggy up a step hill when others can’t move it.

My mum has always been commenting on my weight, I used to be really thin. Up to my 3rd I was a size 6-8. I wasn’t massively happy though and stressed at work. I was unfit with very poor eating choices.

The bigger I have got the more my mum ramps up comments and comparisons. She’ll tell random shop assistant apologetically in changing rooms I’ll lose some weight when I stop breastfeeding for example.

It’s really giving me the rage. I have told her I’m not actively dieting or trying to lose weight. I have been really clear. I’ve told her my concern is I’m fit and healthy and eating a good diet (relevant as I used to eat so badly to keep thin- 7.5 st at my height at one point).

Dad wants to meet in cafes, and the kids love the treat. She literally counts mouthfuls and tells people, for example counting the number of strawberries my dad ate when everyone else had said they didn’t want them (ended up chucking a load he would have eaten as he was annoyed). Typical exchange yesterday in a cafe:
Dad: come and see what cake you want
Mum: what to you want?
Me: open my mouth to answer...
Mum: cuts across me with- or nothing? Try to get slim?
(I walked out and went for a walk while others ate as I’m so fed up of this on repeat. It was awkward but it’s hard to choke down mouthfuls while she shares the number on the scales that morning and lists everyone’s food choices)

She also comments on small portions and tries to give me more, then later comments.

I try to ignore her but it’s incessant. She’ll also do things like try to give me items of clothing a bit to small and go on and on about it. Even to the neighbours! She’ll know they are a bit small as she’s a few inches smaller across the bust (she’s 5’2, we probably have a similar bmi). She actually eats more than me in terms of cake and meal volume. She was heavier but recent medication means her weight has gone down a bit.

Most our meets though involve feeding kids, I’m still thinking of a text along the lines of:

‘I no longer wish to meet up around food because despite being asked you do not stop commenting about weight. It is upsetting but I also feel as the girls grow older I don’t want them to associate eating with constant comments about weight. I know this makes meeting for longer periods difficult’

She’ll have a real drama over it, deny she says it etc. But I will literally start screaming at her in the street if it carries on.

Aibu unreasonable, is there a better way to handle this? I’ve got my ‘I don’t care if I don’t see you’ head on...

OP posts:
user87382294757 · 27/09/2019 10:42

You could set a boundary- say you will no longer go out to eat for example if she makes comments. Then if she does (comment) just don't do it again.

Then it is her choice how to behave.If she wants to go out, no comments.

Mine have started with trying to feed the DC more and more cake. It is not easy.

DoctorAllcome · 27/09/2019 10:42

OP I really like your proposed script to MIL. I would call and say it in person thought instead of texting it. Texts with bad news tend to be taken the worst way possible. I think meeting up to do nonfood things is a great idea and you have broached the fact her constant calorie counting and weight comments are damaging. Maybe read the same book or watch same show so there is a subject to talk about when you do meet.

Euromillsplz · 27/09/2019 10:42

Sorry, but your mum is poison!! You poor thing.

She clearly has her issues but she absolutely should not be forcing these on he family. ESPECIALLY not on her grandchildren ffs.

Send the text and do not even entertain any victimy rants/tears/sulking/denial from her.

Enjoy your treats out with the kids and let her stew at home with the fucking scales for company.

museumum · 27/09/2019 10:43

I would word the text more strongly:

"Mum, you have a toxic attitude to food and weight which I do not want my girls exposed to. We can meet up for activities mid-morning or just after lunch but I do not want us to eat together."

Limpshade · 27/09/2019 10:45

I'm surprised you haven't screamed at her already TBH!

However since you have obviously done such a good job to stay quiet so far I would give her more of a "warning shot" text, as she may not realise that her behaviour has affected you at all up until now.

"Mum, I am not sure you realise this but recently your negative comments about my weight, diet and food intake, and that of other family members, have begun to be noticed by our DC and are having a dangerous effect on their attitude to food too. It's very important that you keep these comments to yourself in future otherwise we will no longer be able to eat together as a family, and this would be a real shame".

If it happens again, pull the pin.

Wiltshirelass2019 · 27/09/2019 10:47

To be honest it sounds like she has some sort of eating disorder herself. Her obsession isn’t normal at all

ginghamtablecloths · 27/09/2019 10:47

I'd feel inclined to scream at her to shut the fuck up. Perhaps it'll bring her to her senses. Poor you. You don't sound overweight to me.

Botanic · 27/09/2019 10:48

@Limpshade it’s not recent. To some degree she’s always done, but it has ramped up over the last few years.

Btw she does not deny herself! She will have a cake and justify it wit something like ‘the scales said 9st 11 this morning so I can cheat, have you lost anything yet?’ She loses the same sodding pound I think...

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littlehappyhippo · 27/09/2019 10:48

@Botanic

That is fucking disgusting behaviour, and you do need to scream at her to STOP! In the name of God STOP!!!!!

You will have a terrible eating disorder (if you haven't got one already!) Her behaviour is nasty. WTF does she think she's doing? Hmm

I HATE HATE HATE anyone commenting on what I am eating. Just fuck off and eat your own food, or if you are NOT eating, then just FUCK OFF!

I also HATE HATE HATE people commenting on my appearance, and in particular my weight. I lost 2 stone several years back, and people commented that they noticed I have lost weight, but I didn't want or NEED them to comment. I was doing it for me.

In my mid to late 20s (not long after having 2 kids) I went from 9 and a half stone or so previously, to 11 and a half stone after the 2 kids, and struggled to lose the 2 stone. Every damn single time I saw my auntie Kath, she commented on my weight and how it was a 'shame' I had gotten fat Hmm Then my grandmother would chip in too. 'Seriously, you should have lost that weight by now...' she would say!

It was bad enough that I felt bad for not losing it, and being 2 stone heavier than before the 2 babies, but older family members commenting did me NO favours. I felt so low and worthless, and embarrassed. Blush

I am now mid 40s and am 10 stone-ish and rarely get any comments from ANYone thankfully. But when I do, I tell them my weight and appearance is none of their concern. Wish I had been that sassy 15+ years back!!!

Knittedfairies · 27/09/2019 10:49

I wouldn't send the text; either say it to her face or don't say it at all. Having said that, I wouldn't meet her where there was any food involved either, and if she started talking about weight/food at any point, I'd walk away and leave her to it. Enjoy your treats with your children; counting strawberries is beyond ridiculous.

Anothernotherone · 27/09/2019 10:49

There are so many mothers of adult women like this!

It absolutely will impact your children, particularly daughters, and will be absorbed from a very young age, 4 or 5 year olds are absorbing this drip, drip, drip of damaging nonsense even though you might not realise until they're 8 or 9...

My mother is like this although not as extreme as yours, but once she started praising my three year old daughter for being "lovely and slim" I snapped and a series of confrontations followed during which I mentioned the elephant always in the room - my sister who's anorexia nearly killed her, and whom my mother also used to praise endlessly for her slimness, until she put on a little bit of weight in her mid teens (not lots) and joined me in being the recipient of pursed lipped warnings about watching what she ate, and being offered meals on a side plate, half slices of toast and of course the praise and golden status was withdrawn. It is completely taboo to connect the anorexia with my mum's lifetime of weirdness around women and girls eating and their bodies, the accepted line is that my mum "means we'll" has "a heart of gold" and nothing is ever her fault, and he accepted trope is she berates herself and we lovingly scold her for blaming herself and tell her her behaviour had no relationship to any negative outcomes - so bloody hell did it shock her.I didn't even spill the family secret that her only other female child was bulimic for at least a decade - we automatically kept that information between ourselves as young adults.

Absolutely refuse to see her in any food related context and don't leave her in sole charge of your children around meal times, if at all. You don't need to stop seeing her, but you do need to have it out with her no matter how upset she becomes (my mum always defaults to crying immediately anything doesn't go her way in her private life - incongruously she was a senior professional before retirement and undoubtedly didn't react that way at work!)

Good luck. Protect your children.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 27/09/2019 10:49

I just can't understand anyonefeeling that they have a right to comment on someone else's appearance - particularly their weight - unless it is actually a danger to health.

There are so many of them out there - and most of their victim are people who are slightly o/w (though I don't think you sound o/w) at all are usually only over by a few pounds, are aware of it and either doing their best to manage it or are comfortable with a bit of extra wibbley-wobbley.

MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS!

Let people live their lives ffs!

M3lon · 27/09/2019 10:51

excellent message from limp there.

I'd go exactly that path.

Adversecamber22 · 27/09/2019 10:52

My mother was just like this, all of her daughters have disordered eating. Three are or have been clinically obese and two developed type 2 diabetes. The other two of us have had a life of being underweight at times. Then our own daughters had issues with weight and now one of the great granddaughters has anorexia.

Just keep away from her is she can’t behave herself. Set a boundary and stick to it. I’m warning you because the domino effect has been terrible in my family,

Bluntness100 · 27/09/2019 10:55

I understand why the text, as you're trying to avoid the drama and denial if you do it face to face. And I think that's understandable.

Just text her and say it. She likely doesn't even realise how much she's doing it. And she does have a problem if she weighs herself daily, and focuses so heavily on food.

Limpshade · 27/09/2019 10:55

Ok I guess what I am really saying then is put the emphasis on the DC. If it's been going on for that long, then clearly she has little regard for your feelings, but she may well take notice if she believes the DC are being affected too.

Aprillygirl · 27/09/2019 10:55

Christ your not *@KKAK's SIL are you? What is it with all these women trying to belittle and control their grown up daughters in this way?! It's just plain nasty!
Never mind just not eating with your mother again OP I would go NT with her. I would not risk having that poison around my impressionable kids if I were you, because you can just bet they'll be getting the same treatment if they put on a pound or two.

katewhinesalot · 27/09/2019 10:56

Maybe it will take losing it with her, to get the message across.

I'd have a private word with your dad first though. Explain that you think your old unhealthy attitude to eating was a direct result of how you were bought up and you aren't prepared to have it replicated with your own children. That way he can support you in tackling your mum. If talking doesn't work then you may have to resort to losing it.

Bowerbird5 · 27/09/2019 10:56

I'm not surprised you had issues with food and your children will have if you don't stop meeting with her over food. Feed them then meet in the park or soft play.
I think the text is fine but I am not sure she will take it on board just stop meeting her around food and if it cuts the time short it's too bad. It is her own doing. I never comment on my kids weight.

crochetmonkey74 · 27/09/2019 10:56

People are so weird about weight - I once worked with someone who had stomach cancer- and I am not kidding someone said 'but doesn't she look fabulous with the weight loss?'

She was an older lady who prided herself on the trophy wife status she had with her husband (big in local community) she was so messed up about food. I also think that the size of you doesn't matter - even if you were large, this would be intrusive, rude and unacceptable. I am a size 18-20 and would not find this to be in any way justifiable

RainbowAlicorn · 27/09/2019 10:58

My mum does this sometimes, if we are out and I have food, then go back for a dessert, she will say are you eating again. This is probably outing but we went to the cinema the other day and I had a large popcorn, she said you are never going to eat all that and I did, then for 2 days after "I can't believe you ate all that popcorn and didn't offer me any" eventually I snapped and told her I hadn't had any lunch or tea and was hungry, then she got all offensive. I am not a healthy weight, I know that I could do with losing a lot, but right now I am not in the financial position to do so, I make a meal out of what I can, to make sure my 2 DC eat healthy and get what they need. I will lose the weight one day and will be amazing, right now I focus on the fact that my DH loves me no matter what as do my DC. She also keeps the fridge stocked with chocolate and the cupboards stocked with crisps. Whereas at home we don't generally have crisps, only small chocolate bars for the DC as the occasional treat and healthy snack options for the the DC. I am a fussy eater anyway and make do with what I can find.

highinthesky · 27/09/2019 10:59

OP in your position I would be downing bags of doughnuts in front of her and licking the sugar off my lips! Seriously, the problem is psychological and it is DM's.

Unfortunately i'm not in your position as although we are a height match I'm 12-14 and nowhere near as fit as you although I am slim and muscular. I may have been a size 6 once, perhaps when I was 10 years old? Hmm

P1nkHeartLovesCake · 27/09/2019 11:01

Maybe she’s just a spiteful bitch? Yes she should be a poor soul with food issues but equally could just be nasty. Women do tend to use weight to upset other women in my experience.

NEVER eat with her again and tell her why. The dc shouldn’t be around her with food present if she’s like this, it’s not nice for them to see you have to walk out/ your dad put food etc in the bin because of her

SuchAToDo · 27/09/2019 11:01

Op I would turn it back on your mother by saying DM I won't be meeting you in cafes or anywhere there is with food, you obviously have serious issues with food where you comment in what I eat, count mothfulls what people eat, even count what Dad eats....until you get professional help for your issues with food and whatever food disorder you obviously have I won't be meeting up with you anywhere there is food as I want to enjoy my visits with you and your food issues are making our meeting ups so stressful and plus I don't want my children to pick up on your attitudes to food and develop issues around food as they grow up

Just say something like that...

Then each time she comments about your weight or someone's food in the future, just roll your eyes at her, sigh and say, mum, do you want me come to the Dr with you so you can seek help about your issues with food as I really think you need professional help as your behaviour isn't normal....and just repeat that each time she makes comments...

timshelthechoice · 27/09/2019 11:01

I know this makes meeting for longer periods difficult

Leave that line out.

She is toxic to your kids so this has to stop. Her comments and attitudes will impact on your kids.

Your size is irrelevant, it's not her right to comment on it at all.

She needs to be told and you need to keep firm, consistent boundaries in place no matter what her drama and guilt tripping because she knows damn well what she's doing - it's controlling, manipulative, body-shaming, negging behaviour and if she has an eating disorder it's not your job to sort that out.

I think museumum's message is better. And you handle it how you feel comfortable, you don't owe her face-to-face or sit downs or any of that.

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