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To ask you what you think would be bad about a Corbyn government?

381 replies

catdoctor · 26/09/2019 22:48

Please be specific.

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Whitejasmine · 27/09/2019 16:42

dodgeballchamp - May I ask out of interest: so if you suddenly found out your parents or a distant relative had left you a million quid you’d be happy to hand it over to the ‘state’ would you? Be honest now....

Miaowing · 27/09/2019 16:58

I can't find it but I once read a quote that said something along the lines of "In this age of Austerity and fairness what is the fair proportion to take from what someone else has worked for"

If I've worked for something, I should be able to keep it, not have it confiscated because some people don't have it.

Its the politics of envy - everyone can't have something therefore no one can.

timshelthechoice · 27/09/2019 17:17

Can't believe anyone would vote for some wolf in sheep's clothing twonk whose family home is a huge country manor house and went to private schools until he was old enough to decide he was going to have a lark at slumming it and make a career of it who's now promising he's on the side of the little people.

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:21

“ he was old enough to decide he was going to have a lark at slumming it ”
WhT- when he was 10?

Symptomless · 27/09/2019 17:21

What we desperately need is a labour government to sort out yet another tory mess.

Imnotthrowingawaymyshot · 27/09/2019 17:22

Tim I agree.

Wolf in sheep's clothing. And the elite he keeps taking about! He is the elite!

Confusedbeetle · 27/09/2019 17:24

Ha Ha Hilarious how long have you got_ The party is a disaster. Lets get an antiquated marxist who supported the IRA to take us back to the 70s and bancrupt the country. And the idea of him negotiating a deal with the EU!

dodgeballchamp · 27/09/2019 17:25

whitejasmine yes. My parents are poor and have little to leave me except a small terraced house but I’m trying to convince them to disinherit me and leave it to a worthier cause that could benefit people longer into the future. Despite the fact of course that I could do with it. I don’t think they will, so I’ll likely sell it and donate most of the proceeds to small charities that actually make a difference

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:26

Not sure he can be held responsible for the house his parents bought. It was an old small hotel they bought and converted! You make it sound like Downton Abbey!

timshelthechoice · 27/09/2019 17:26

He's sleekit as oiled shite, IMO, Bertrand, for a whole host of reasons, and he really doesn't do the party any favours, IMO (which appear to be shared). I'm in Scotland and I vote SNP and feel perhaps the best that will come out of Brexit is we here in Scotland might be able to gain our independence and perhaps join the EU in our own right, but Corbyn, fuckin' hell, how do people actually see that stoat of a person as a leader? I sometimes wonder if he's not going some sort of real dirt on people to hang onto power as he does because it's astonishing there is truly no one better to lead in that entire party? Really?

timshelthechoice · 27/09/2019 17:28

Well, golly gee, Bertrand, since you've appointed yourself his personal defender, how ghetto is it it be able to actually buy a fucking hotel at all? Straight outta working class Shettleston, right? My arse.

Let's face it, the party's not done well, understatement, since he took over as leader, it's pissing on a tree to think he's going to lead to a golden toilet in Blenheim.

timshelthechoice · 27/09/2019 17:29

He's a pure joke. Even my kids laugh when he comes on and starts quacking. I'd sooner trust a starving stoat. Boris is a wanker but well, at least you know what you get with that twat.

OunceOfFlounce · 27/09/2019 17:31

Just glancing through the last page of this thread. Seems like people mostly fear a Corbyn government because 1, they don't want to pay taxes and 2, they think easing off the neo-liberalism will make us more bankrupt?

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:31

I think he’s a crap leader. I didn’t vote for him and hope he goes soon. But I think it’s ridiculous to criticise people for choices they didn’t make- like the house their
parents bought and the schools they were sent to.

OunceOfFlounce · 27/09/2019 17:32

Oh, and his parents were too rich?

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:33

They weren’t particularly rich- those were the days when it was actually possible for people on moderate incomes to buy a house!

Imnotthrowingawaymyshot · 27/09/2019 17:33

Tim shelt what an interesting turn of phrase you have Grin

And your quite right re buying an old hotel is hardly ghetto is it but I suspect Bertrand Russel maybe one of these wealthy clueless about real poverty champagne socialists on mn.

Tensixtysix · 27/09/2019 17:39

Corbyn = ruin for the rich of the UK, BUT freedom and hope for the poor.

So it really depends on your 'status'.

If we do have a GE, all I can say is that if we end up with a labour government, then it will be the fault of the remainers for trying to block leaving the EU!

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:40

Never said it was ghetto. Just said a) a 6 bed house is hardly Downton b) it was his parents bought it and c) why do you have to come from poverty to be a Labour Party leader?

Imnotthrowingawaymyshot · 27/09/2019 17:42

His own brother has raged against him

Jeremy Corbyn has been bitterly attacked by his brother for abandoning his support for Brexit and campaigning against a No Deal.

Since Boris Johnson became Prime Minister, Piers Corbyn has relentlessly criticised Labour’s approach to Brexit on Twitter and even described the EU as ‘the Fourth Reich’.

The 72-year-old weather forecaster, who is a sceptic about climate change, described Labour’s campaign against No Deal as ‘a cover to trash the historic democratic mandate to leave’ and describes its backers as ‘enemies of the people’.
Jeremy Corbyn's brother has bitterly attacked his decision to abandon his support for Brexit and campaign against a no-deal. (Pictured: The 72-year-old weather forecaster protesting against climate change activists as people queue to see young climate activist Greta Thunberg)
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Jeremy Corbyn's brother has bitterly attacked his decision to abandon his support for Brexit and campaign against a no-deal.

The comments have emerged after Labour made political capital last week out of the resignation of Mr Johnson’s brother Jo, who said he was leaving the Government because he felt ‘torn between family loyalty and the national interest’.

The former Universities Minister backed Remain in the 2016 referendum and objected to the expulsion from the Tory Party of 21 rebels who voted to block No Deal last week.

To add to the Labour leader’s discomfort, Piers Corbyn has also been expressing enthusiastic support for the Prime Minister’s approach to negotiations.

While Jeremy Corbyn attacks ‘No Deal Brexit’ and insists on delaying withdrawal, Piers calls for ‘WTO Brexit now’ and says that sticking to the October 31 deadline is the way to get a good deal.

On Wednesday he attacked Labour’s electoral strategy and his brother’s support for Hilary Benn’s bill to outlaw a No Deal Brexit.

He tweeted: ‘What the ** are labour playing at? One clause in Benn’s bill means that we can only leave EU if EU agree. 5milllion leavers voted labour at last election I don’t think they’ll vote labour next time, so much for labour respecting the result of 2016 ref’.
He also tweeted that his brother's campaign against no-deal amounted to a 'cover to trash the historic mandate to leave'.
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He also tweeted that his brother's campaign against no-deal amounted to a 'cover to trash the historic mandate to leave'.

Piers has also shared graphics and videos saying brother Jeremy, 70, has broken promises not to block Brexit, suggesting that he’s part of a ‘shameless Europhile Parliament’.

Piers also expressed support for Boris Johnson and even retweeted an account called ‘Keep Labour Out Of No. 10’.

On Tuesday he retweeted a Leave.EU video of Labour Brexiteer Kate Hoey praising Boris Johnson and criticising the Opposition.

In the video she says: ‘We’ve finally got a PM who will stand up to the EU. I’ll use my vote in parliament to help the 17.4m who voted Leave & to stop parliament’s coup!’

He also retweeted another Leave.EU graphic calling for ‘a Boris/Nigel pact to crush the Brexit wreckers and secure national independence!’ Last month he tweeted: ‘The majority voted Leave without a deal, if there wasn’t a deal.

‘Campaigns against #NoDeal are a cover to trash the historic democratic mandate to #Leave.

‘#Remain is total travesty of democracy, total hypocrisy. #RemainAlliance are deranged agents of #EU-#4thReich enslavement.’

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Although Jeremy Corbyn has been a life-long critic of the EU he campaigned – half-heartedly – for Remain in the 2016 referendum, and has recently caved in to pressure from Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell for Labour to back Remain in a second poll. Piers celebrated the 2016 result at a party with Nigel Farage.

redappleandaquamarinebow1987 · 27/09/2019 17:46

@BertrandRussell nothing wrong with that. But it is questionable when the indivudual then turns around and wants to shut down the systems they benefited from

Imnotthrowingawaymyshot · 27/09/2019 17:47

The modest ...Yew Tree Manor of Corybns childhood ( only moments away from his prep school)

www.tatler.com/gallery/jeremy-corbyn-posh-background

" And the children grew up in bucolic bliss, first in the village of Kington St Michael, in Wiltshire, and then at Yew Tree Manor in Chetwynd Aston, a hamlet on the Herefordshire/Shropshire border - a pretty red Georgian property that was once part of the Duke of Sunderland's estate. (Corbyn's parents changed 'Manor' to 'House' to downgrade its grandness, a move reversed by the current owner, a retired solicitor.)

According to Rosa Prince, Corbyn's biographer, it was a 'thoroughly upper-middle-class, scruffy country upbringing'. His father, David, was an electrical engineer, and Naomi studied science at London University in the Thirties, when women made up only 27 per cent of students. They saw themselves as left-wing intellectuals (the house was 'full of books', says one school friend), and their backgrounds were in law and surveying. In outlook, they were like the Webbs - Beatrice and Sidney - who helped found the LSE, the New Statesman and the Fabian Society. David Corbyn worked a lot in the Soviet Union and even tried to learn Russian - 'but it was too hard'. Nonetheless, Jeremy's less well-off childhood friends remember him as 'the boy who lived in the big house and went to a posh school with a posh uniform'.

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:50

“ But it is questionable when the indivudual then turns around and wants to shut down the systems they benefited from“
Well, they may have personally benefitted, but they can also see how destructive it is to the vast majority of people and to society at large.

Imnotthrowingawaymyshot · 27/09/2019 17:51

the man of principle on peoples vote not being respected...

In it he blasts the EU, saying he did “not want to live in a European empire of the 21st century” and, in a blow to those wanting him to back a second Brexit referendum, describes such votes as “keep[ing] on voting until they get the answer they want”.

And he uses the opportunity to denounce NATO, calling it a “military Frankenstein”

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 17:52

@Imnotthrowingawaymyshot what was he expected to do, leave home? It’s ridiculous to think this is an effective argument against him!