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Shamima Begum....where do you stand?

999 replies

LeahSMS · 26/09/2019 10:50

What are your thoughts?

AIBU to think she was only a child but unfortunately she’s now considered as a threat so therefore she will never return it’s not only about her safety but the people around her?

Tell me your thoughts

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oakleaffy · 16/07/2020 10:55

Well.. Breaking News on LBC
Ms Begum is allowed to return to U.K. to challenge the revoking of U.K. Citizenship.

I can’t get out of my head the barbarity of her group, and how she was a figurehead for brutality against Syrian Women😭

CatsArePeople · 16/07/2020 11:09

she made he bed. let her rot.

EyyyupButtercup · 16/07/2020 11:13

I don’t think this is the right decision. But I can see it’s a thorny issue.

Newuser123123 · 16/07/2020 11:13

She was a groomed child
4 girls from the same school went- they were targeted
She has suffered terribly
We can't have it both ways - if we deport foreign criminals we have to accept ours back.
I personally would bring her back and ask her to speak in schools where the girls are at risk.

Midsommar · 16/07/2020 11:22

I have absolutely no sympathy for her. To bring her back to this country would be dangerous.
She has radicalised views. If they bring her back they've got blood on their hands.

Totickleamockingbird · 16/07/2020 11:24

We cannot create terrorism and then dump it on other countries. That insane. She should be tried here and sentenced as per UK law.

DilloDaf · 16/07/2020 11:25

Can the govt appeal against the appeal decision?

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 16/07/2020 11:27

She made a terrible mistake. She was a child. We have let the various men back in. Why is a young girl made an example of?

Don’t get me wrong- it was horrific. But she is a pawn here

DownThePlath · 16/07/2020 11:28

No sympathy whatsoever.

silentpool · 16/07/2020 11:29

This was inevitable. No consequences for her behaviour.

Smallsteps88 · 16/07/2020 11:30

She was a child, groomed here, in the U.K. this was allowed to happen here in the U.K. the U.K. also failed to prevent a groomed child being trafficked out of the country on someone else’s passport. The U.K. has responsibility for this.

Smallsteps88 · 16/07/2020 11:31

We have let the various men back in. Why is a young girl made an example of?

It doesn’t take much thinking to work out the answer here.

contrmary · 16/07/2020 11:35

She was a child, groomed here, in the U.K. this was allowed to happen here in the U.K. the U.K. also failed to prevent a groomed child being trafficked out of the country on someone else’s passport. The U.K. has responsibility for this.

That's pretty racist in my opinion. Basically you're saying we shouldn't allow muslims in the UK in case they turn out to be extremists.

Smallsteps88 · 16/07/2020 11:39
Shock

Umm you’ve completely made up a whole new interpretation of what I’ve said. This girl (and others) were groomed. Not groomed in the way she of Islam, but groomed in the ways of terrorism. Are you seriously saying that terrorism and Islam go hand in hand and that to prevent terrorists recruiting we must ban Islam? Really?

mrsBtheparker · 16/07/2020 11:40

She should be brought back. She was a CHILD and she was groomed.

Rubbish, she went of her own free will to support this country's enemies, the only time that the 'grooming' excuse was trotted out was when she realised she would have to face the consequences.
We'll be stuck supporting her and whatever children she brings back forever. Will she also be allowed to bring back whoever she claims to be the father?
No sympathy for her whatsoever, she's made her bed etc etc..

mrsBtheparker · 16/07/2020 11:42

She should be tried here and sentenced as per UK law.

Sadly this is unlikely to happen. If the hand-wringing naive responses on this thread are typical she'll be in clover.

woodhill · 16/07/2020 11:42

Another financial drain on the taxpayer,

Smallsteps88 · 16/07/2020 11:45

We'll be stuck supporting her and whatever children she brings back forever.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don’t know that all 3 of her children have died. Otherwise that’s a pretty nasty remark to make.

Igotthemheavyboobs · 16/07/2020 11:48

@Newuser123123

She was a groomed child 4 girls from the same school went- they were targeted She has suffered terribly We can't have it both ways - if we deport foreign criminals we have to accept ours back. I personally would bring her back and ask her to speak in schools where the girls are at risk.
Well as she seems to show zero remorse, you are basically suggesting she travel round and groom other teenagers. What an excellent plan!
Gilead · 16/07/2020 11:51

Hopingtobeamum nice to see your neutrality, as a lawyer. Hmm
She was groomed. I doubt that she'll groom others and there will be therapies put in place to ensure the safety of others if she is allowed to return. I feel sorry for her.
As for showing zero remorse, how do we know that? We don't. She's not here and that may well change once she feels safe enough to express remorse.

Starisnotanumber · 16/07/2020 12:03

15 year old Gemma (the name that was used in the press) who ran away with her teacher Jememy Forrest in 2017 was treated as a child and a victim of grooming.
Ms Begum was also a child and groomed I can't see that the law can be interpreted in 2 ways

OldCow1 · 16/07/2020 12:10

No sympathy. She's dangerous.

WellAmThatBad · 16/07/2020 12:12

She will never be able to get a job therefore she will never be able to contribute to society. She will just be a drain. She is still a threat and should not be allowed to return. 15 is old enough to know right from wrong. We've all been 15 and been a bit stupid and possibly easily lead but christ what she did is on a whole different level

woodhill · 16/07/2020 12:18

Perusals her family can support her financially- lol

SimonJT · 16/07/2020 12:21

She was groomed to have sex with and marry an adult. She was also groomed to do as that adult commanded.

Either all children who have been groomed deserve justice or none deserve justice.