To find the unmummsy mum really dreadful

[Katex888]

I know she has a lot of fans, and some parts of her first book were funny. Although the second book was dire, why would she need to tell everyone when she has sex with her husband as if it’s once in a year event.

I find her really cringe worthy and I don’t understand the hype. She thinks she’s really funny when she’s not, she’s not unmummsy, she seems like a great mum with her kids but makes out she is rubbish all the time. Why?

I don’t understand how everyone think she’s the funniest thing ever.

Yes I know what you mean. You’re trying to deny her blog is all about moaning about parenthood (albeit with humour) because I can’t link to specific words saying so

But that’s because its not. And if you think it is, you obviously haven’t read it. Yes she talks about some of the challenges of having children. Don’t we all? But there is far more to it than being ‘all about moaning about parenthood’.

Maybe any threads on anyone in the public eye should be banned then.
But not if you're called Meghan and are married to a prince, it's totally fine to have threads speculating about the state of their relationship and her intentions, just don't you dare think that some mummy bloggers and Instagram mums are annoying and the "mummy needs wine, isn't it hilarious when I do something that most mums do" image is a bit twee and over the top.

First rule of MN, some people in the public eye are allowed to be ripped apart and judged and have thread after thread about how awful they are as people, but others are amazing and no criticism shall be made of their public image, their work and no negative opinion should be voiced because that's mean and tantamount to bitching

@Katex888 you didn't just say you don't find her funny. Your title states that you find her dreadful. So unfollow her, don't read her books. Just a bit mean spirited

There are many people on Mumsnet who defend Meghan on the awful threads that crop up about her.

MN is bonkers LolaSmiles.

What @HowlsMovingBungalow said.

I've not read the person in question but I see snippets of such influencers around me. She has helped create a female stereotype of a middle class mum which affects all mums- middle class or not.

I am pro mums who create income from home (even the ones who flog Facebook tat) for trying to set up a business but it's ok to have an opinion on it all.

if I say I don’t find her funny I will say so

But you didn't say that. You (and others) said that she wasn't funny full stop. Phrasing makes all the difference.

I've never read her.

First rule of MN, some people in the public eye are allowed to be ripped apart and judged and have thread after thread about how awful they are as people, but others are amazing and no criticism shall be made of their public image, their work and no negative opinion should be voiced because that's mean and tantamount to bitching

You do realise though that mumsnet isn’t one hive mind? And that it’s perfectly plausible (indeed likely) that the people who think it’s not ok to start threads slagging off ‘the unmumsy mum’ are in fact the very same people who think it’s not ok to start threads slagging off Meghan Markle?

HowlsMovingBungalow
It is at times.
There's no need for unpleasant personal abuse, but saying you don't find someone's social media content/blog/books funny, or you think they promote a clichéd stereotype etc isn't personal abuse and being a mum isn't a free pass.

pikapikachu
I feel very similarly to you.

I'd listened to the scummy mummies podcast and some of it has me in stitches to start with but then i started to find it very much same old "isn't it funny that we did what thousands of others have done" and it wore thin. I don't think anything bad about the people on the podcast, but I've grown to be quite irritated by the whole mummy influencer brand thing as it's done in book, blogs, podcasts, YouTube etc and I don't think it's a helpful image of women.

That's not personal abuse.

But not if you're called Meghan and are married to a prince, it's totally fine to have threads speculating about the state of their relationship and her intentions, just don't you dare think that some mummy bloggers and Instagram mums are annoying and the "mummy needs wine, isn't it hilarious when I do something that most mums do" image is a bit twee and over the top.

Well actually I think the meghan threads are disturbing and awful, so not really sure how that fits your narrative.

I didnt read it because she was funny I read it just to see I wasnt the only one fucking up

I used to like her and found hurrah for gin hilarious. I've not seen much of either in recent times as they've moved past the posts popping up in fb newsfeed stage and I've never bothered with any of the books, but she seems a lovely woman who is doing well and I can only imagine after so long she will be running out of things to talk about so needs to be inventive. I've never actually seen her talk about sexual with her husband! I don't think she claims to be a terrible mum, she's just honest about the hard parts.

Ponzischeme
You may not, but I think people are quicker to ignore or dismiss personal attacks on certain public figures whilst having a loyalty to their social media stars.
There's a sense (quite false in my opinion) that somehow this tide of mummy bloggers, influencer families etc are just like us, just doing the same as us and so on that creates almost a fake relationship, similar to YouTubers and teens. That fake-personal angle I think makes it more likely that people view criticism of their influencers etc to be harsh or mean because "they're just like us" whereas someone on the telly or in the papers is somehow more distant.

I remember seeing some really horrible threads on here about the Radford family, usually any time they're in the telly. I don't agree with their choices, but there was some serious nastiness, whereas people say they think an instamam or a mum blogger isn't funny and people are all "but that's just your opinion, she's just a mum doing her best". I think people do view social media/bloggers etc differently and by default hold others to a different standard on what is/isn't ok criticism.

Many people on this thread seem to be slating her because of what they think her blog/ books are about and have clearly never read anything she has written.

Exactly and they’re embarrassing themselves!

The difference being that if you post anonymously about your MIL/DH/whoever, no one has any idea who they are, whereas this is criticism targeted at a named individual

This!

No I’m not going to admit I was being mean spirited or bitchy. Get a grip of yourselves, and if I say I don’t find her funny I will say so. If you don’t agree then that’s fine too

But you didn't just say you didn't find her funny. You specifically set up an anonymous post about a named individual just so you could slag her off and call her cringe worthy. If that isn't considered mean spirited then I don't know what is.....some people may even call you a troll.

The difference being that if you post anonymously about your MIL/DH/whoever, no one has any idea who they are, whereas this is criticism targeted at a named individual

There have been posts where the subject turns up later. Some posts reappear on The Sun, Daily Mail etc probably outing people. I bet Mr Penis Beaker found out about his wife's post after it spread.

Yes but those posters didn't intend to publicly slag off an identifiable individual....however, the OP did. That's what makes it bitchy and mean spirited.

Why? Why? Has she offended you in some way, just going about her business and trying to make a life for her family.

PPs were right, this is mean spirited and shitty. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

I can't see here that anyone has abused this woman. Just people saying they are not keen on all these influencer/blogger/instagrammer individuals, some of course being worse than others.

How on earth is someone who spends a great deal of time advertising the life and times of their family above any criticism? It doesn't matter whether they're hashtag blessed or hashtag cursed, they are still promoting something.

It raises interesting questions of whether someone is genuine. After all Lorraine Kelly argued (for tax reasons) that "Lorraine Kelly" is a brand and not she herself. So are we able to criticise her? What about an autobiography? Are we allowed to say we don't like a fiction novel but not one that purports to be true?

I'm pretty sure there are lots of name changing MNers that are far more famous than this particular blogger. People will state their honest opinions here which is a massive part of the attraction for me and of course they will vary as, you know, people tend to vary. If you don't like it then skip off over to the huns - (other sparkly twee fora are also available).

theres a difference between saying "I didn't like the unmumsy mums book much, and I don't like the content on her Instagram" and saying " I find the unmummsy mum really dreadful*

the first statement is about her work, which fine, you don't have to like. The second is saying that she is dreadful.

If you wouldn't say it to someones face, don't say it online.

'm pretty sure there are lots of name changing MNers that are far more famous than this particular blogger. People will state their honest opinions here which is a massive part of the attraction for me and of course they will vary as, you know, people tend to vary. If you don't like it then skip off over to the huns - (other sparkly twee fora are also available)

I'm sure there are and I have no issue with people offering honest opinions but i'm not a fan of people starting posts about identifiable individuals just so they can slag them off. That is what makes this a shitty thread

But if you're a blogger and author you have chosen to put yourself out there. Not all feedback is going to be positive 🤷🏻‍♀️. It would be weird if it was.

I have no invested interest here as I hadn't heard of her before so you could even say this thread has been a form or PR for her.

'Vested' even.