My DD's first boyfriend is transgender and I feel weird about it.

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I've always been a very liberal minded person. Supported gay rights all my life. My best friend and DN are gay. I support the rights of Trans people to live their life etc.

My dd15 has a nice group of friends (boys and girls). In that group is a Trans teen (Female to Male). He changed his name in Y8, He's totally accepted as Male at school. There are no issues. He looks completely Male and people who don't know him would never think that he'd been born female. He's a nice boy who is well liked. All good.

Except last night my DD told me she's going out with him. I've surprised myself that this has unnerved me.

My dd hasn't had a BF before. She's only ever snogged one boy before at a party. She says she's 100% straight. She says she fancies the cool older boys in Sixth Form. Has teenage celebrity crushes on boys like Tom Holland etc. So how does this work for her?

Last night I told her all was fine and just to be careful they didn't damage a friendship if they broke up etc, but I didn't make a big deal of it.

Would you find this weird if your dc said they were straight? Please be honest. I'm kind of hoping it fizzles out without any drama.

the stated concern for children who are transgender is fake.

Yes why would a site full of parent care about children.... Oh wait.

I didn't say all trans people say that

But we have no idea what these kids are watching. Is it someone decent and honest like rise of dawn or are they watching riley dennis .

The advice schools are being given are that girls who dont want to change with boys are to he removed from the changing room. The advise from.those going into school is not from.people who you eoyod sabt the advice to be from.. aimee challenor is on the stonewall advisory board. Someone found incapable of understanding safeguarding who had input onto the policies .

I think it's a pretty safe bet that a good chunk of the message they are receiving is not good.

Yes why would a site full of parent care about children.... Oh wait.

Just because someone is parent it doesn't mean that they care about all children. Anyway, many people aren't parents.

Anyway, many people on this forum aren't parents.

Woodchuck99 - doesn't matter the situation, original post matter, they always end up the same way with true colours and agendas showing.
Least they show themselves up eventually I suppose for all to see

@peachgreen How do humans change sex?

"Lesbians have to accept penis or they are transphobic" and here is a MTF transgender philosopher arguing that this claim is blatantly silly.

aeon.co/essays/transgender-identities-a-conversation-between-two-philosophers

They just believe it and insist that everyone else does too.

But they could in fact hate Riley Dennis and not be receiving these types of views.

OP will know this person better than anyone here so it’s really not fair to push the idea that they must be caught up in social media, not everyone is so you can’t just assume.

I understand why a parent may worry about these issues but it’s unfair to tar everyone with the same brush, especially if you really have no idea of their stance beyond the fact that they are receiving treatment.

@peachgreen, a bigot is defined as a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions

now, you are being pretty intolerant of those us here who don't hold your opinion, so kinda makes you a bigot, no?

A bigot is not someone who thinks biologically females/males cannot change sex, it is someone like you. So please, stop projecting.

SarahTancredi So you know they are getting the wrong advice (even though you don't know what it is) and messages (even though you don't know what they are) and that the all transgender people must be bad and unbalanced (even though you probably only know one or two people if any and I bet you don't know anyone well). That is prejudice and bigotry. Don't try to dress it up as concern for children.

Woodchuck99 - doesn't matter the situation, original post matter, they always end up the same way with true colours and agendas showing.
Least they show themselves up eventually I suppose for all to see

Yes, they can't help themselves.

I understand why a parent may worry about these issues but it’s unfair to tar everyone with the same brush, especially if you really have no idea of their stance beyond the fact that they are receiving treatment

But where is this treatment coming from. The biggest trans charity recommends a dr whi has been suspended for an.illegal gender clinic. Even if they watch and listen to the more sensible voices, those around them like the teachers etc have all received advice from the likes of stonewall and mermaids infact kwrnaids git funding to go visit even more schools from.the.lottery.

Mermaids push a non NHS approved approach called affirmation.

Stonewall have someone who has been investigated and found incompetent of comprehending safeguarding

So whatever sensivle voices they hear on line the adults who are around them.are following a different approach .

That's the problem.

This comment has nothing to do with OPs situation although it does demonstrate your true agenda and that the stated concern for children who are transgender is fake.

I know this wasn’t directed at me but this is in fact my biggest concerns about the whole trans agenda. It’s macabre. Puberty blockers from 9-10 years in girls and 11-12 years in boys meaning they stay physically essentially pre pubertal with pre pubertal bones and brains and decision making abilities until they decide to stop or get cross-sex hormones (usually the latter, once blockers are started). It’s crazy. These so-called “transgender” children are having their healthy bodies medicalised and made abnormal. And nobody has ever been adequately explain to me why it’s necessary without resorting to regressive gender stereotypes.

Imagine your 15 year old boy with the physical development of a 9 year old boy while his friends are all having pubertal bodily changes. How can you saw that looking like a child 6 years younger is less harmful than going through a natural puberty?

Puberty blockers are not “pause” medications, they are powerful hormones that fuck up a child’s natural, normal, physiological processes. And shame on us for accepting this. Do you think these kids with damaged bodies will thank the adults around them for rendering them life-long patients and encouraging their delusion that humans can actually change sex?

The kids are 15 years old. If the relationship lasts a month, it will have been "long term" for teens. The kids and their circle of friends sound like nice, sensible young people. I can't really foresee any issues. Also, maybe they aren't all obsessed with sex; having sex is not the definition of a dating relationship. Any of these kids could be asexual for all we know - and even if they're not ace, they are all very young. Frankly, the person who described their dating relationship at 15 y/o as being opal fruits and cinema trips is the most realistic person on this thread. There are primary school kids who "date" - it typically just means they have an agreement to hang out together at recess and exchange Christmas gifts. But everyone will describe them as "dating".

“I think your comment demonstrates transphobia and prejudice in a nutshell. Basically you are saying that if someone belong to a certain group then it doesn't matter how happy they are or how happy they make the daughter as they must bad because some other people in the group are bad.“

Always this constant dishonesty and twisting, always, it’s blatantly obvious and tiresome.

I personally don’t think that children should be on puberty blockers and/or hormones but that doesn’t change that some are and those children shouldn’t be ostracised by everyone else because of it.

Twisting, blatantly obvious and tiresome?
Nah, poster had a point as it was said/implied.
It wouldn't be acceptable with any group but seems trans is more and more fair game on here lately.
If it makes you feel better to think it's all lies and it's twisting though, when it's not, it's what's happening, hey crack on

I dont think the kids should he ostracized either.

Which is why we question the entire ideology. Because thanks to the affirmation code of practice we are having children pushed down this path by the adults around them.

Tavistock have recorded patients as young as 3.

Check out that dr Dianne something or other on you tube and her ted talk whi stood infront of hundreds if parents and told them a baby in snapping its onsie and a toddler pulling out and throwing a hair clip were gender messages that they should listen to.

Children arent even able to reach an age where they can decide for themselves because parents are transing them.from toddleehood.

This lovely idea of a kid waking up.one day having spoken to sensible cautious voices and deciding transition is the right thing for them.is just that. a.lovely idea.

The reality is teachers have been told to help the autistic kids who may struggle to communicate source clothes that match their gender and that they dont have to tell parents.

Teachers are being trained to affirm.

This should worry people alot more than it does.

I personally don’t think that children should be on puberty blockers and/or hormones but that doesn’t change that some are and those children shouldn’t be ostracised by everyone else because of it.

Of course no one should be ostracised. But there’s a social contagion to ROGD and I’d be uncomfortable if my teenage, still impulsive and still cognitively underdeveloped daughter was intimately exposed to the concept that humans can change sex and that cross-sex hormones in childhood are the “answer” to gender dysphasia. I’d still be warm and welcoming and supportive of her partner but there’d be a lot of private GC chats about the myriad ways that girls can be girls.

If feeling uncomfortable about 8-9 year old girls having their reproductive hormones turned off by powerful exogenous hormones makes me a bigot, then so be it.

Personally, I have a male child with ASD who doesn’t at all stick to gender norms and I don’t have a problem with that at all but I do understand the worry that outsiders may try and push these likes as something else later on (he’s 8).

*dysphoria, not dysphasia, obvs. Clearly my autocorrect is trying to silence my GC voice.

I know this wasn’t directed at me but this is in fact my biggest concerns about the whole trans agenda.

You would say that though wouldn't you? The true agenda is blatantly obvious though.

meowth

Then this is the advice followed by schools who have had the training for kids like yours.

But of course we are bigots and lying

ou would say that though wouldn't you? The true agenda is blatantly obvious though

Can i just have some clarification please

So are you saying that even if someone hasn’t said anything transphobic or has affirmed that they have absolutely no issues with transgender people...that if they say they have any concerns about medicalising children that they have an agenda and are faking concern

Thanks