My DD's first boyfriend is transgender and I feel weird about it.

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I've always been a very liberal minded person. Supported gay rights all my life. My best friend and DN are gay. I support the rights of Trans people to live their life etc.

My dd15 has a nice group of friends (boys and girls). In that group is a Trans teen (Female to Male). He changed his name in Y8, He's totally accepted as Male at school. There are no issues. He looks completely Male and people who don't know him would never think that he'd been born female. He's a nice boy who is well liked. All good.

Except last night my DD told me she's going out with him. I've surprised myself that this has unnerved me.

My dd hasn't had a BF before. She's only ever snogged one boy before at a party. She says she's 100% straight. She says she fancies the cool older boys in Sixth Form. Has teenage celebrity crushes on boys like Tom Holland etc. So how does this work for her?

Last night I told her all was fine and just to be careful they didn't damage a friendship if they broke up etc, but I didn't make a big deal of it.

Would you find this weird if your dc said they were straight? Please be honest. I'm kind of hoping it fizzles out without any drama.

It isnt.

But these people never put it like that and they have to throw in phrases like bigotry transphobe echo chamber because when we strip the argument down to the very very basics, it's clear that they really are arguing that biology is bigotry.

They cannot define basic terms such as male and female.

But they wont/can't tell us where we are wrong so they just insult us instead.

"These people"
As in those that disagree with you you mean lol

No, biology isn't bigotry.

Some what people do on here IS though

I was quite argumentative when I was a teenager. Absolute bullshit most of it I’m sure - most likely whatever was trendy at the time.

? I wish it could, but I just don't have that power

Oh i know you dont have the power peach

Which is exactly why i used the word ‘attempting’

I dont care if you think people are bigots or transphobic...it really doesn’t matter to me.

But i do object to an entire board being labeled as such

these people, As in those that disagree with you you mean lol

Yes, "These" is a pretty standard pronounce meaning a group of people, in this case it means the group who disagree and shout bigot.

Of course your feelings are valid for all sorts of reasons, but well done on raising an open minded, loving child who clearly doesn’t feel like she has to hide anything from you.
I’d think about what it is you’re really worried about - is it because this relationship isn’t the ‘norm’ ( whatever the hell that is really) and you’re worried she’ll come under fire about it? First lives rarely stick, but support her and love her just as you would if she was going out with any boy and it’ll all be alright.

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Did you miss my post? Didn't tag as I know that's frowned upon by some and didn't know if you were one of them..
I said NAFALT
But a hardcore handful of cheerleaders on there definitely are and that's why it needs challenging as it spreads

But i do object to an entire board being labeled as such

I don't think I ever said the entire board was transphobic - just the vast majority of the more prolific posters.

Do I really have to do not all FWR is like that

A number of posters have said that FWR is EXACTLY like that

So if you don’t believe that... then my post wasnt directed at you

It was perfectly clear what you meant peachgreen

that's why it needs challenging as it spreads

It's not "spreading" people are just understanding more of what's going on and are asking questions.
They are realising debate is being shut down.

Ha.
I meant hate.
Not debate.
If there was any of that on there allowed you'd have a point.

Give me a minute wotcha

I was reading

(And texting a friend at the same time if im honest...got distracted)

If there was any of that on there allowed you'd have a point.

It's a prowoman board called feminism, it's going to be pro woman.

According to you you don't want debate spreading here to the board meant for debate.
What you want is for discussion on the subject to be silenced, but it won't be.

You can tag me wotcha

Ive switched the thingy off, but that was very considerate of you

So if we discuss here we are bigots and should stay in FWR.

But if we remain in the "echo chamber" it's also wrong, because it too pro woman.

Women - know thy place. Unless you are physically male then...

Surely you can see the fault in your logic?

OP if anything this thread should give you an idea of the kind of bigotry that this kid will be dealing with on a daily basis.

But these people never put it like that and they have to throw in phrases like bigotry transphobe echo chamber because when we strip the argument down to the very very basics, it's clear that they really are arguing that biology is bigotry.

It does demonstrate bigotry and transphobia that rather than discuss whether OP should be concerned or make a big deal about her DD going out with someone who is transgender, some people feel the need to "strip down the argument to basics" and go on about the fact they think people can't change gender. This happens on every thread which mentions the word "transgender" and plenty that don't.

You know bigotry like people saying "your body is perfect as is, non conforming to stereotypes makes you a free thinker, you need to change nothing about you."
Horrible horrible bigots.

With Non-bigots saying "you are a boy because you don't like girl stuff."

With Non-bigots saying "you are a boy because you don't like girl stuff."

Non bigots don't feel the need to give their opinion to someone who is transgender and accepts them the way they are. Bigots feel the need to tell them they are wrong and can't do what makes them happy.

So I’ll happily let a racist blurb on because its what they truly believe?