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Children should be locked up and never heard

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LittleBlueBag · 20/09/2019 15:33

I'm a single mother and today went to a large out of town store with my toddler twins who are almost 3. Too old for the pram and eager to explore.
I was paying for an item at the till and one of the twins was looking at a mug. He touched it but it remained on the hook. The other twin was happy playing with a car from the store.
They were being loud but were excited. A staff member who must of just finished her shift and was behind me waiting to pay for an item told me the children were very naughty and we should not be allowed out in public if I can't control them. She said they're behaviour is awful and just made me feel really shitty about myself.
They are a handful and can be naughty but just normal toddler behaviour.
I must of turned my back on them for a split second. It's impossible to carry them both.
So wise mumnetters? Are my children really that bad?
I did complain to the manager but I was so ashamed.

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Purpletigers · 21/09/2019 11:08

Keep your children in a buggy until they’re old enough to understand how to behave in public . You think they’re adorable and just excited, they were most likely loud and misbehaving . You wont do yourself any favours in the long run if you can’t discipline them now . Ps loud children in restaurants are cute either , if they can’t behave keep them at home until they can .

Purpletigers · 21/09/2019 11:08

Aren’t

Courtney555 · 21/09/2019 11:09

I've said I hardly take them to shops and after yesterday's experience I won't again.

But you should. You really should.

It's that simple. It's no disaster. Your kids were a pain in the ass while your back was turned while you conversed with another assistant. Let me tell you...so what??? It happens. You know now if you were to repeat that situation what you'd do differently. That's all that's needed here.

You got a second assistant who was stroppy in how she pointed out your kids were being a pain and that didn't help. Only you know what caused her to say "you shouldn't be allowed out in public" because that's a really uncommon thing for anyone to say, and you'll know exactly what made her say it, even if you're not alluding that to us. Again....so? She was rude. You could have handled it better. Lesson learned.

The answer isn't, at the first criticism, hide indoors. You must see how ridiculous that is. There's lots of things you can do.

As a mother of a SN child, we can't use that as an excuse. It's certainly not an excuse for people to judge our children. It's equally not an excuse to pretend their behaviour is acceptable because it's what you're personally used too. People will comment on unacceptable behaviour, because they don't know it's not their fault, and they think you're allowing it if you're doing nothing. Yes, we'll get more looks because people look at behaviour that is different to what they're used too. That's just life. My friend's son has autism. If she had a pound for every time a random has said "control your child." What she does do, is just look directly in the eye and reply very non aggressively, "He has autism.". People back off very apologetic and red faced almost immediately.

You know what works best for them. You say you hardly ever take them in shops. Maybe that's the issue? Take them in more? Let them not get excited by it.

Agitetur · 21/09/2019 11:12

I’m back from the shops, & cafe items being picked up,touched,one cup dropped
All by adults, no one eye rolled,no one tutted,no reproach or judge comment

OkayGo · 21/09/2019 11:16

@DisorganisedOrganiser it’s such a huge shame and one of the reasons I dread going out with my wilful toddler because I know people are thinking these things and judging me when all I need is to grab some milk and nappies.

longestlurkerever · 21/09/2019 12:08

This is the sort of thread that is making me hate Mumsnet. In the old days you could be blissfully ignorant of the seething resentment going on in most people's heads on a daily basis. I honestly cannot recall ever being personally annoyed by a child's behaviour in a shop. Maybe a baby crying but obviously you know they can't help if.

ethelfleda · 21/09/2019 12:15

Other people’s noisy kids are annoying. Hell, my toddler gets on my nerves some times but obviously I think he is adorable so I don’t get too worked up about it. He is actually quite quiet in public though, to be fair. Saves his shouting for when we are at home Hmm
Anyway - I think it’s preferable if you can see the parent at least trying to make an effort to control their children. But if they don’t, I certainly wouldn’t have said anything! I’m not that judgemental.

Vulpine · 21/09/2019 12:23

Or just be kind. Say something supportive or nothing at all.

LittleBlueBag · 21/09/2019 12:31

I think some people are missing the point I didn't get a chance to tell him off. I wouldn't allow them to run riot.

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thatladyfromacrosstheroad · 21/09/2019 13:25

"Keep your children in a buggy until they’re old enough to understand how to behave" seriously how do they learn if you keep them strapped in all the time @Purpletigers ?

My 3 year old DS loves shops and looking at things. Mostly he is gentle and careful, but there have been moments. He learns from it and on occasions I have to get him to pick things up, or tell him no. I've taught him not to touch certain things like glass in the shops. You can't shop for hours, but I think they get something out of it.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 21/09/2019 13:39

OP one was playing on a car you weren't planning to buy and you didn't get chance to tell them off? Ok I get it toddlers can move fast, but maybe in most peoples eyes, the threshold for when you need to start telling off is lower. Eg the moment they leave your side is when many people would be sternly saying "DC, get back here now or the snack I have in my bag goes in the bin" etc etc

CBCB7992 · 21/09/2019 13:40

Your kids sound like angels compared to mine.

The store assistant proably doesn’t have children, ignore her and please don’t get upset.

Kids have every right to be out with their parents. Obviously should be kept under control (for their own safety more than anything). Bugger everyone else.

Even before I had DC other people’s children really didn’t bother me. I can’t see why other people’s children bother others so much they have to comment? Not my problem, not my place to say anything.

My son has autism. He can be unpredictable in shops. What should I do? Keep him in forever? Not eat? Not do any shopping? He is the loudest child ever.

You were about to pay and leave to so it’s not like she had to listen to your children for much longer.

Also, I wouldn’t say 3 is too old for a buggy if it helps. Mine both use them until 4 for shopping, days out etc. I know it’s not that easy getting them in though 🤣

Being a single mum to twins must be exhausting as well!!

ethelfleda · 21/09/2019 13:42

I think some people are missing the point I didn't get a chance to tell him off. I wouldn't allow them to run riot

Fair enough OP. Then the other woman wasn’t in the wrong - I’m sure it is tough enough trying to cope with two toddlers on your own so I’m sorry if my post was judgemental Smile

ethelfleda · 21/09/2019 13:43

Sorry that should say she WAS in the wrong
Love it when autocorrect completely changes my point

DorothyHarris · 21/09/2019 13:46

Being a parent of multiples myself I constantly repeat the mantra to myself....no twins, no opinion. Twins are a whole different ballgame to singletons...it is much harder to do anything with twins than with a singleton, things singleton parents take for granted (my first baby was a singleton) people have a really good way of making people feel like shut. Ignore ignore ignore. Twins are hardwork you're doing ok OP...

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 21/09/2019 13:54

Also tbf OP, I think it does sound like the store assistant was excessive, I mean it's not like anything got broken etc

PurpleDaisies · 21/09/2019 13:58

The store assistant proably doesn’t have children, ignore her and please don’t get upset.
Don’t make that assumption. Plenty of parents on this thread have criticised the op.

halloumi2019 · 21/09/2019 14:41

What did the manager say?

Courtney555 · 21/09/2019 15:55

"I honestly cannot recall ever being personally annoyed by a child's behaviour in a shop*

No one was though. People understand it's not the child. They were annoyed at the parent not addressing it.

thatladyfromacrosstheroad · 21/09/2019 16:48

Surely some of these replies are just windups troll type stuff? Do people actually think such stuff about 2/ 3 year olds. I think you've either forgotten what it was like to have young kids or you don't have them. If you take such offence to people you should stay home yourself.

LittleBlueBag · 21/09/2019 17:20

A member of staff overhead what the shop assistant said so knows I'm not exaggerating. Manager said it was out of order what she said and will be holding a meeting to discuss it. Maybe training will be given. Meeting is tomorrow.
The assistant is not denying what she said either.

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DisorganisedOrganiser · 21/09/2019 17:21

Good. Nobody should speak to a harassed parent like that. Or anyone in fact.

DanceItOut · 21/09/2019 17:30

My two were in the buggy of trolley at that age in most shops. Just easier to control them for the sake of my sanity and everyone else's. Even years later if my kids are in a silly mood and not listening to me we will go and sit in the car until they are ready to behave appropriately. I don't bring them home because then they would probably play up more to avoid future shops they don't like and I don't subject everyone else to their insanity and cad behaviour which when contained to our home isn't bad behaviour it's child behaviour but in public is not necessarily appropriate. so we sit in the car while they fight and scream and strop until they agree to behave. Once we sat in the car for over fifty minutes. Now it's more like 10 minutes because they know the drill and tend to calm down quickly. It takes work and it is exhausting and gives me a headache and is horrible but there's nothing worse than having people look at you and your children like you are a terrible parent with the worst behaved kids on the planet.

DanceItOut · 21/09/2019 17:31

However I do think the shop assistant was a bit rude to say it so bluntly. I think as parents we've all seen that look people give naughty kids and their parents. I don't think the staff member really needed to actually say you shouldn't be out in public etc.

Thisisnotreallymyname · 21/09/2019 17:33

Although hard, it is possible to control young children.
I hadv3 children under 3 years old and went out with them, without them committing mayhem.

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